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Inside the Ring--Coughlin sacked [Pentagon Islamist Analyst]
Washington Times ^ | Jan 4, 2008 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 01/04/2008 3:10:32 PM PST by Hammerhead

Stephen Coughlin, the Pentagon specialist on Islamic law and Islamist extremism, has been fired from his position on the military's Joint Staff. The action followed a report in this space last week revealing opposition to his work for the military by pro-Muslim officials within the office of Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England. Mr. Coughlin was notified this week that his contract with the Joint Staff will end in March, effectively halting the career of one of the U.S. government's most important figures in analyzing the nature of extremism and ultimately preparing to wage ideological war against it. He had run afoul of a key aide to Mr. England, Hasham Islam,...

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KEYWORDS: coughlin; dod; enemywithin; fifthcolumn; gertz; infiltration; islam; stephencoughlin
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UNFREAKINGBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 posted on 01/04/2008 3:10:35 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: Hammerhead

More great news from Washington.

Happy 2008,folks !

(Sarcasm off)


2 posted on 01/04/2008 3:13:02 PM PST by Mears
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To: Hammerhead

Pay no attention to the man ...er...Muslem....behind the curtain.


3 posted on 01/04/2008 3:13:19 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote

Thats right, kill the prophet/messenger.
Keep that head burried.


4 posted on 01/04/2008 3:23:03 PM PST by P8triot1 (Liberalism ALWAYS produces the exact opposite of its stated intent. Quinns 1st. law..)
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To: Hammerhead

So now the Pentagon is infested....


5 posted on 01/04/2008 3:24:30 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Hammerhead
The action followed a report in this space last week revealing opposition to his work for the military by pro-Muslim officials within the office of Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England.

Sure glad we're taking this struggle seriously.

/s

6 posted on 01/04/2008 3:25:30 PM PST by The Blitherer (Back on break...)
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To: Hammerhead
He had run afoul of a key aide to Mr. England, Hasham Islam

Aptly named.

This is very, very bad indeed. The CIA is broken but at least military intelligence was doing a good job. "Was" being the operative word.

7 posted on 01/04/2008 3:26:43 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Right after Nancy and Stenny .... Congress is there too.


8 posted on 01/04/2008 3:27:00 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Looks that way. Have you ever read ‘Infiltration...How Muslim Spies and Subversives Have Penetrated Washington’ by Paul Sperry?


9 posted on 01/04/2008 3:30:13 PM PST by penelopesire
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To: Hammerhead
So now we will welcome the Islamofascist right into our midst, encourage their community building, and then be the same as Great Britain.

Wave goodbye to the Bill of Rights and say hello to Sharia law folks.

The land of the free is about to become the land of submission.

10 posted on 01/04/2008 3:36:06 PM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: penelopesire

Paul Sperry is a superb journalist, a rarity these days. Do you have a cite for the article you mentioned?


11 posted on 01/04/2008 3:36:51 PM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar

It’s a book I bought a year or so ago. It’s a pretty sobering read and I highly recommend it to all.


12 posted on 01/04/2008 3:39:36 PM PST by penelopesire
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To: Hammerhead

comment by Jerry Gordon

Stephen Coughlin is the Islam Law ‘go to guy’ on the Pentagon Joint Staff. Coughlin is the author of a brief on Islamic law and Jihadist doctrine that has recently been cleared by both the Joint Staff and DIA for publication. I have copies of Coughlin’s documents and they are both informative and clearly delineate the canon of Poltical Islam that drives and compels Jihad among Muslim adherents. In today’s Washington Times “Inside the Ring” column of Bill Gertz, there is disclosure of an alleged effort by an aide to Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon R. England, Hasham Islam, to have Coughlin ‘ease up’ on his criticism of Islam. Why? Because Hasham Islam, is endeavoring to protect an effort by his boss, Deputy Secretary England, to reach out to the American Muslim community. This includes a meeting in Apri, 2007 with an unindicted co-conspirator cited in the recent Federal Dallas Holy Land Foundation trial, the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA). Coughlin’s brief and paper are based on public citations, including the Koran, Hadiths, and legal rulings and are cast in a presentation on Political Islam and what drives the Jihadis. Some senior Joint staff officers privately agree that Coughlin’s briefings make sense. Unit commanders from the battalion through brigade levels with experience in both Iraq and Afghanistan who have read or heard Coughlin’s presentations agree with his conclusions. Apparently, Deputy Defense Secretary England hasn’t had the opportunity to review Coughlin’s brief. But then he has Hasham Islam running interference- a bit of irony, that. Because Coughlin has gone out of his way to raise concerns about England’s meeting earlier this year with officials of the ISNA, a Muslim Brotherhood front group in the US, Hasham Islam is out to some how get Coughlin by fair means or foul.

That means that the Islamists are inside the Pentagon. But then Hasham Islam has a privileged perch in the executive or E-ring inside England’s office.

In January, 2007, Deputy Secretary England was at the Herzliya Conference in Israel, where he received the Henry M. “Scoop” Jackson Distinguished Service Award from the The Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA). In his acceptance speech entitled, ‘Freedom is Never More Than One Generation Away From Extinction’, England drew attention at one point to his outreach to the American Muslim community. He noted:

It’s also not a question of religion or nationality. I’ve spent some time reaching out to Muslim-American communities, who are woven in an absolutely integral way into the diverse fabric of American life. It turns out that Muslim-Americans - who come from many different national backgrounds and sects - are, on the whole, more successful economically than the average U.S. population.

This matter of possible infiltration of Islamists inside the No. 2 Defense position raises some concern about the obsessive politically correct DoD. Let us ask ourselves a question. Does the Deputy Secretary have outreach officers on his staff to Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Confucians, Hindus, B’Hai, Zoroastrians, Wiccans and garden variety atheists? Assuming the answer is no, then clearly he is bending over backwards to address complaints from Muslim Brotherhood front groups. Pity. He just might have to give back that Henry M. “Scoop” Jackson award that JINSA gave him in Israel.

Bill Gertz, Inside the Ring, The Washington Times, December 28, 2007

http://blog.americancongressfortruth.com/2007/12/28/pentagon-islam-expert-stephen-coughlin-under-assault-from-dod-islamists/


13 posted on 01/04/2008 3:43:15 PM PST by Candor7 ((Background on Muslim Infiltration of the Pentagon, this is SERIES!))
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To: Czar; All

Here is a link with lots of info on the book:

http://www.sperryfiles.com/


14 posted on 01/04/2008 3:45:34 PM PST by penelopesire
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To: Hammerhead

Harkening back to the days of “even-handedness” in the administration of Jimmy Carter.

There is such a thing as listening TOO much to the “politically correct” take on things. The legacy of the infestation of the Department of Defense by agents of a foreign ideology goes on, much as it did during the days of the Cold War and before.

Only this foreign ideology is much more pernicious.


15 posted on 01/04/2008 3:46:45 PM PST by alloysteel (The enormity of the truth is incredible. You could not make this stuff up.)
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To: Hammerhead
I searched the web for a photo of this AH , Hasham Islam. There is no photo I could find. This guy is an unelected official directing the submission of our DoD at the highest levels?

We should at least know what this Islamofascist "public official," salary paid with our tax dollars, looks like!

Maybe some one here can find a photo of him by searching Arabic sites, nothing comes up in English.

16 posted on 01/04/2008 3:49:55 PM PST by Candor7 ((Background on Muslim Infiltration of the Pentagon, this is SERIES!))
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To: Hammerhead
Mr. Coughlin was accused directly by Mr. Islam of being a Christian zealot or extremist "with a pen," according to defense officials. Mr. Coughlin appears to have become one of the first casualties in the war of ideas with Islamism.

Holy shiite.

17 posted on 01/04/2008 3:50:38 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Great spirits will always encounter violent opposition from mediocre minds.)
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To: Hammerhead

Why?


18 posted on 01/04/2008 3:51:58 PM PST by sport
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To: penelopesire

Very much appreciated. Thanks.


19 posted on 01/04/2008 3:52:59 PM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Candor7

You got that right.

It is going to happen sooner rather than later.


20 posted on 01/04/2008 3:53:56 PM PST by sport
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To: Hammerhead
LECTURE OF THE HOLY FATHER

Aula Magna of the University of Regensburg Tuesday, 12 September 2006

Faith, Reason and the University Memories and Reflections

This profound sense of coherence within the universe of reason was not troubled, even when it was once reported that a colleague had said there was something odd about our university: it had two faculties devoted to something that did not exist: God. That even in the face of such radical scepticism it is still necessary and reasonable to raise the question of God through the use of reason, and to do so in the context of the tradition of the Christian faith: this, within the university as a whole, was accepted without question.

I was reminded of all this recently, when I read the edition by Professor Theodore Khoury (Münster) of part of the dialogue carried on - perhaps in 1391 in the winter barracks near Ankara - by the erudite Byzantine emperor Manuel II Paleologus and an educated Persian on the subject of Christianity and Islam, and the truth of both.[1] It was presumably the emperor himself who set down this dialogue, during the siege of Constantinople between 1394 and 1402; and this would explain why his arguments are given in greater detail than those of his Persian interlocutor.[2] The dialogue ranges widely over the structures of faith contained in the Bible and in the Qur'an, and deals especially with the image of God and of man, while necessarily returning repeatedly to the relationship between - as they were called - three "Laws" or "rules of life": the Old Testament, the New Testament and the Qur'an. It is not my intention to discuss this question in the present lecture; here I would like to discuss only one point - itself rather marginal to the dialogue as a whole - which, in the context of the issue of "faith and reason", I found interesting and which can serve as the starting-point for my reflections on this issue.

In the seventh conversation (διάλεξις - controversy) edited by Professor Khoury, the emperor touches on the theme of the holy war. The emperor must have known that surah 2, 256 reads: "There is no compulsion in religion". According to some of the experts, this is probably one of the suras of the early period, when Mohammed was still powerless and under threat. But naturally the emperor also knew the instructions, developed later and recorded in the Qur'an, concerning holy war. Without descending to details, such as the difference in treatment accorded to those who have the "Book" and the "infidels", he addresses his interlocutor with a startling brusqueness, a brusqueness that we find unacceptable, on the central question about the relationship between religion and violence in general, saying: "Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.” The emperor, after having expressed himself so forcefully, goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable. Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul. "God", he says, "is not pleased by blood - and not acting reasonably (σὺν λόγω) is contrary to God's nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats... To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death...".

This is still timely. It appears that the Muslims still believe that they do need a "strong arm or weapons of any kind" to force their theocracy on the USofA. The only way REASON and LOGIC will prevail is if we continue to proclaim the truth "Veritas Vos Liberabit" here.

21 posted on 01/04/2008 3:59:07 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (http://auntiecoosa.blogspot.com -- read, learn, blog, or get out of my way.)
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To: Candor7
Wave goodbye to the Bill of Rights and say hello to Sharia law folks.

The Second Amendment is designed to protect the rest of the Bill of Rights, and the rest of the Constitution for that matter, against just such "infiltration" of "enemies foreign and domestic".

If I, and many others who took the oath to "protect and defend", have anything to do with it, it will do so as the need arises.

22 posted on 01/04/2008 4:02:09 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Hammerhead

BTTT!


23 posted on 01/04/2008 4:19:35 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Candor7

Muslim pressure

Pro-Muslim officials at the Pentagon are putting political pressure on one of the U.S. military’s most important specialists on Islamist extremism, according to defense officials.

Stephen Coughlin, a specialist on Islamic law on the Joint Staff, met recently with Hasham Islam, Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon R. England’s close aide. The officials said Mr. Islam, a Muslim who is leading efforts for the Defense Department’s outreach to Muslim groups, sought to convince Mr. Coughlin to take a softer line on Islam and Islamic law elements that promote extremism.

http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071228/NATION04/918099949/1008&template=nextpage


24 posted on 01/04/2008 4:21:02 PM PST by BARLF
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To: Hammerhead

Unfreakinbelievable!!!! There needs to be some butt kicking in the DOD. My personal experience with the DOD is that many of them can be bribed easily. Unfortunately, once a bribe taker is identified within the DOD, the identifying person or organization is then rendered obsolete by the politicians in with those specific members of the DOD.


25 posted on 01/04/2008 4:32:42 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Hammerhead

We are so screwed!


26 posted on 01/04/2008 4:37:06 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Hammerhead

The very people who are encouraging the muslims into our country are the ones who will be most astonished when Sharia law in put in place and slavery is re-established in the United States as a result of it.


27 posted on 01/04/2008 4:40:36 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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To: BARLF
Does anyone know if there is a “outreach to Muslim groups” within DOD? If so, why? What is Gordon England’s interest in such a program?
28 posted on 01/04/2008 4:48:06 PM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: Hammerhead

Which candidate will decry this news and promise to correct this grievous wrong?


29 posted on 01/04/2008 4:53:55 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Candor7

“The land of the free is about to become the land of submission”

When islamomuzzies are what, less than one half of one percent of the U.S. population? That’s hardly critical mass.

Lots of pig races before that happens.

Anyway, my .45 bullets are lubricated with pig grease.


30 posted on 01/04/2008 5:11:40 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: Mears

I believe that England was a sucky SecNav too.


31 posted on 01/04/2008 5:16:39 PM PST by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

“We are so screwed”

BY WHOM!!!??

This America’s citizens are armed to the teeth! Notice that our domestic islamomuzzies are always calling for gun control!

OK, worst case: TSA Muslim auxilliaries empowered to kick in doors to disarm citizens and take away their guns.

New Orleans, you say? Never again! Talk about civil war!

Molon Labe!

):^(


32 posted on 01/04/2008 5:19:32 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: elcid1970

The decay of this country is accelerating at the speed of light


33 posted on 01/04/2008 5:35:49 PM PST by Mojohemi
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To: Mojohemi

when it finally decays, it will stink for all, not just the White Man..........You did good Mr. Anglo Saxon, you built the city on the hill, a wonderful place, the rest got jealous, they hate you but, covets the country you built.
Our leaders or so called learders are giving away that which they never worked one day to build.
It is becoming very sick.


34 posted on 01/04/2008 5:43:43 PM PST by Mojohemi
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To: Mojohemi

bttt


35 posted on 01/04/2008 5:58:57 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: elcid1970
OK, worst case: TSA Muslim auxilliaries empowered to kick in doors to disarm citizens and take away their guns>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I wish THAT was the worst cae. People still generally do not understand what we are dealing with. These Muslims are fascists. They will convert poor Americans to their cause the same way the Nazi's did in Germany, by brute force,emotional diatribe, misuse of the legal system to censor free speech in opposition ( already happening in England and Canada), and scaring decent people into hopeless silence. Its already happening as Coughlin and his strategic papers for victory over Islamofascism are turfed out of the DoD!Thats administrative censorship. Coughlin is guilty of nothing more than being right, and being in opposition.

Now the Muslims will begin expanding, getting the government to submit administratively, using liberals to make cultural pluralism in schools so that dress and prayer sessions can interupt school, special classes for Muslims for their language. Its all lined up and ready to go.

And if you think that what happened in Germany in the 1930s can't happen her, take a good look at Mr. and Mrs. John Q. Public these days. Do Americans have the ability to withstand this without politicians like Eugene McCarthy to tackle this insidious un-American activity? Such men are no more.

Economically, this is about keeping the Arab oil barons happy. Since we happen to be buying their Muslim oil, they will devolve our political system, using its freedoms to take our culture, freedom and economy apart.

We have a serious fascist problem. Even the CIA has convinced the FBI to start a criminal probe into waterboard "torture" in which no interogee has been known to have been injured or have died.

This news about Coughlin is terrible, just terrible.And if it is not treated as a wake up bell, for all of us , those who love freedom and have sacrificed for it, then I can tell you:

Checkmate! Game over.

How dare England conduct himself so! We have young soldiers dying each day while he bends over and takes it up the a$$ from the Islamic Brotherhood!

Someone should be screaming blue bloody murder!!!

NOW!

Donald Rumsfeld, we miss you!

36 posted on 01/04/2008 5:59:35 PM PST by Candor7 ((Background on Muslim Infiltration of the Pentagon, this is SERIES!))
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To: Candor7

Game over? I respectfully disagree clear to the gates of Hell!

So our ruling classes are ready to fold to Islamofascism? Since when we ordinary folks follow like sheep?

Gun Control? 55 mph speed limit? Fatty foods? Political correctness? Drive smaller cars? Gays are beautiful? Silence the churches? Go vegetarian?

I think we regular Americans are just a little more contrary than to knuckle under when the patricians tell us to.

Here’s a suggestion: those `Islamic footbaths’ in public airport spaces can’t LEGALLY say, `For Muslims Only’, now can they? Let’s have mixed groups of non-muslim men and women crowd into these footbaths and insist on our right to soak our tired infidel feet after hours of journeying or just waiting.

Let the muslims cry out! Let them get violent! Then it’s time to start snatching turbans and to hurl bacon!

Holy moly, folks, let’s not sink into despondency and inevitability!!

Thoughts?


37 posted on 01/04/2008 6:24:14 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: elcid1970

Your post is great. I wish you were running for President.


38 posted on 01/04/2008 6:31:24 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Change.....that's what we will have left in our pockets if a Democrat gets elected president!)
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To: elcid1970; Candor7

I don’t think it’s inevitable, but I think it’s pretty likely. Muslims are busy using our all-powerful judiciary against us, and that combined with a little aggressive interpretation of recent legislation (”hate speech,” for example) gives them all the ammo they need.

And it will all be done in a way that we can’t resist. That is, it’s not a matter of electing someone, not electing someone or putting pressure on elected officials. We will simply be sitting there subject to the whims of a Muslim-manipulated judiciary, the decisions of which will be enforced by federal powers.

I don’t know how this is going to work out, but I think we’ve got to start getting involved. Watch the “Flying Imams” case - I think it’s going to be a pattern for future Muslim actions. Fortunately, the airline (United, I believe) is resisting and is demanding a jury trial. But the strategy is going to be that of legally silencing anyone in the US who objects in any way to Muslim aggressive behavior or to special Muslim privileges. I hope we fight back somehow before it’s too late, but I’m not optimistic.


39 posted on 01/04/2008 6:36:20 PM PST by livius
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Thank you. I don’t know what to say.

Except, I would hope that my beliefs as a most ordinary citizen are shared by millions upon millions of my fellow citizens.

It’s too easy. You don’t have to be an ideologue to see enlightened self interest in preserving the social, political and (dare I say it?) spiritual framework that made these United States both free and great!

Personal liberty is a treasure beyond understanding. Except, when I was deployed to Uzbekistan in 2003-04, I listened in abject horror as a very attractive young Uzbek woman told me that she admired Josef Stalin! Being part of the huge and mighty USSR meant more to her than my small attempt to persuade her of the advantages of freedom and human rights.

Even so, I have faith that this great America will never be conquered.


40 posted on 01/04/2008 6:43:19 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: elcid1970
Now, I saw in my dream that, just as they had ended this talk, they drew very near to a very miry slough, and, being heedless, they did both fall sud­denly into the bog. The name of the slough was Despond. And Christian, because of the burden that was on his back, began to sink in the mire.

Then said Pliable : " Ah, neighbour Chris­tian, where are you now ? "
" Truly," said Christian, " I do not know."


41 posted on 01/04/2008 6:46:14 PM PST by P.O.E.
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To: livius

The key to Muslim political aggression in this country is their perception that they operate in complete personal safety.

This has to be made to change. At the individual level.


42 posted on 01/04/2008 6:46:47 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: Hammerhead

Islam is a religion of piece...

Apiece of dis an a piece of dat.


43 posted on 01/04/2008 6:49:31 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: elcid1970

It’s the only thing Muslims understand, but one of the problems is that Americans simply don’t react to things that way. We go to war reluctantly, and we respond firmly to provocation only after it has reached a point that cannot be ignored. This is not a bad trait, but the question is whether, if we wait until that point with Islam, it won’t be too late. The time to stop it would be now (no more Muslim immigration, expulsion of non-native Muslims and surveillance of native-born Muslims, for example), but we all know we’re not going to do that.


44 posted on 01/04/2008 6:51:45 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

Forget the politicians. A local parking-lot reaction to Muslim aggression is more what I had in mind.


45 posted on 01/04/2008 6:55:31 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

You’ll need some of your favorite koolaid to get this one down.


46 posted on 01/04/2008 6:58:18 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: livius
We won't do much until we see them convertins groups of gullible Americans to Islam, and then sending them out into the streets to strike terror into Jews who speak up against them.

In Germany the population stood quietly by, were terrorized by the Nazi movement, and then became mesmerized by Hitlers diatribes and messages of social ascendance of German peoles. In America the message will be the ascendant power of Allah to bring order and peace into the neigborhoods of our poor and disadvantaged, cleaning up drugs and gangs through actions of the faithful. No story could play better to the liberal bleeding hearts as our freedom drains away.

But when they start thumpoing on Jews, American will awaken, and there will be a counter fascist movement , the likes of which our nation has never seen.

And it will be bloody, thanks to AH's like DoD's England.

47 posted on 01/04/2008 7:05:07 PM PST by Candor7 ((Background on Muslim Infiltration of the Pentagon, this is SERIES!))
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To: elcid1970

I’m with you. You won’t catch me rollin’ over for these a$$wipes.


48 posted on 01/04/2008 7:11:41 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: elcid1970
Since when we ordinary folks follow like sheep?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The MSM has the whole electorate following their prognostications , like sheep.Look at Iowa. I hope I am wrong, but that was one sheep like manifestation of political choice.

I hope that the remaining primaries will be less bleating and wooly, with a proper mix of logic.

Yes, unfortunately Americans have become sheep, except for a very few.

49 posted on 01/04/2008 7:13:21 PM PST by Candor7 ((Background on Muslim Infiltration of the Pentagon, this is SERIES!))
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To: Candor7

Then be one of those very few. Enjoy the cheapest of all luxuries: take a deep breath, let it out and declare,

“I’m a free man (or woman). There’s nothing that you or anyone else can do about it. I dare you to try.”

Be armed, of course. And don’t be afraid to defend yourself.


50 posted on 01/04/2008 7:20:21 PM PST by elcid1970
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