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Remember, We're Choosing a President (Thomas Sowell: Romney most steady candidate in GOP field)
Real Clear Politics ^ | 01/08/08 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 01/07/2008 10:25:01 PM PST by AKSurprise

"The question of what kind of President each candidate would make is infinitely more important than all the "horse race" handicapping that dominates the media.

By far the best presentation as a candidate, among all the candidates in both parties, is that of Barack Obama. But if he actually believes even half of the irresponsible nonsense he talks, he would be an utter disaster in the White House.

Among the Democrats, the choice between John Edwards and Barack Obama depends on whether you prefer glib demagoguery in its plain vanilla form or spiced with a little style and color.

The choice between both of them and Hillary Clinton depends on whether you prefer male or female demagoguery.

Among the Republicans, there are misgivings about the track record of each of the candidates, especially those who have shown what Thorstein Veblen once called "a versatility of convictions."

There are fewer reasons for misgivings about Fred Thompson's track record in the Senate but more reason to be concerned about what his unfocused and lackluster conduct of his campaign might portend for his performance in the White House.

When it comes to personal temperament, Governor Romney would rate the highest for his even keel, regardless of what events are swirling around him, with Rudolph Giuliani a close second.

Temperament is far more important for a President than for a candidate. A President has to be on an even keel 24/7, for four long years, despite crises that can break out anywhere in the world at any time.

John McCain trails the pack in the temperament department, with his volatile, arrogant, and abrasive know-it-all attitude. His track record in the Senate is full of the betrayals of Republican supporters that have been the party's biggest failing over the years and its Achilles heel politically."

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 2008; elections; fredthompson; leadership; mccain; romney; sowell; thomassowell
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Once again a conservative icon makes the case for a Romney presidency. Romney is the most "Viable Conservative Candidate" that is currently in the field. The GOP can either coalesce around Romney, or allow McInsane or Hicakbee to seize the nomination. As Sowell says, Thompson is running a lackluster campaign, and that all but negates him as a major factor in the race.
1 posted on 01/07/2008 10:25:05 PM PST by AKSurprise
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To: AKSurprise

Well there goes my respect for Dr. Sowell.


2 posted on 01/07/2008 10:26:23 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

You disagree with what he wrote so you no longer respect him?


3 posted on 01/07/2008 10:28:33 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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To: AKSurprise

Is there any doubt that Thomas Sowell is one of the most intelligent men on the planet?


4 posted on 01/07/2008 10:29:38 PM PST by Texas Eagle (Could pacifists exist if there weren't people brave enough to go to war for their right to exist?)
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To: SoConPubbie

Read the whole thing.


5 posted on 01/07/2008 10:30:32 PM PST by wolfpat (If you don't like the Patriot Act, you're really gonna hate Sharia Law.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Sowell’s dead wrong on this one.


6 posted on 01/07/2008 10:31:10 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: AKSurprise

When during the debate Romney backed off and didn’t make the kill on McCain for supporting amnesty, he revealed a huge mortal flaw.

When blurted out he like mandates at Thompson’s pressing, he revealed another.

Romney is turning into a more disciplined and focused Huckabee, but with the same underlying problems, just better camo.


7 posted on 01/07/2008 10:31:50 PM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy.)
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To: AKSurprise

I have to admit that if we’re just comparing personalities, Romney does appear to be the sharpest and cleanest of the bunch.


8 posted on 01/07/2008 10:31:54 PM PST by ari-freedom (If it makes sense, then it doesn't belong in our public schools.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Conservative intellectual icon. Is respected by Conservatives and Libertarians of all stripes; Disrespected by Liberals.


9 posted on 01/07/2008 10:32:33 PM PST by byteback
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To: AKSurprise

Good article. He knows what’s at stake.


10 posted on 01/07/2008 10:32:36 PM PST by period end of story (You need cooling, baby I'm not fooling)
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To: AKSurprise
I thought we were voting for Pastor?

I do agree that McCain has a record of Republican betrayals in between what is normally a good voting record.

11 posted on 01/07/2008 10:35:37 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: AKSurprise
Thompson isn't running a lackluster campaign.

Supposed "conservatives" are just falling for Romney's looks and delivery, ignoring the facts of his political history.

I am starting to think Romney will be the candidate, and I can live with him more than some of the Repub alternatives and all of the dems. But let's trash this bunk about Thompson's campaign being lackluster--the failing is in US.

We moan on and on about wanting a real conservative, someone who isn't going to jump through the media hoops, someone who has principles and sticks to them, someone who can lead.

We have him in Thompson, but man, that Romney is just so darned HANDSOME even though his "conservative credentials" are pitiful, his tears about blacks and his religion are embarrassing, and he looks good on camera...you know, the kind of thing we're supposedly tired of.

I'll support him if he's the nominee, but to his fans, please spare us the baloney about how wonderful he is. If he wins, it won't be because of a history of conservative belief and leadership, but his PROMISE that he WILL lead as a conservative.

12 posted on 01/07/2008 10:36:31 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist who will vote Fred in the primary, Republican in November)
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To: AKSurprise

I could support a Romney campaign. However, I feel negative about his chances in a general because people would have a problem with his faith. Which I think is stupid...


13 posted on 01/07/2008 10:37:23 PM PST by I_like_good_things_too
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To: AKSurprise
“There are fewer reasons for misgivings about Fred Thompson’s track record in the Senate but more reason to be concerned about what his unfocused and lackluster conduct of his campaign might portend for his performance in the White House....
Temperament is far more important for a President than for a candidate. A President has to be on an even keel 24/7, for four long years, despite crises that can break out anywhere in the world at any time.”

OK I don’t understand why Thompson's campaign style is “unfocused and “lackluster” instead of being an indication of his even keeled temperament which apparently is an important quality of a president. I’ve felt that Thompson’s attitude and actions during the campaign are admirable qualities. I guess I like a guy whose whole life and being is wrapped up in being President. (Al Gore or John Kerry ring a bell?!)

14 posted on 01/07/2008 10:37:35 PM PST by StandUpBucky
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To: REDWOOD99; All

No, it’s just that he’s one of the “anti-Romney” reactionaries. People that have a knee-jerk emotional dislike of Romney, because he flipped (but not flopped back) on a few social issues. It’s called Romney-Derangement syndrome, and it’s pretty prevalent around here. They reject the fact that the whole point of the Conservative movement is to gain converts, not vilify them.


15 posted on 01/07/2008 10:37:36 PM PST by AKSurprise (" Id rather get 80 percent of what I want than to go over the cliff with my flag flying." (Reagan))
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To: AKSurprise

That’s quite an interesting paraphrase. Sowell also said that there are reasons for misgivings about the track records of the candidates, “especially those who have shown what Thorstein Veblen once called ‘a versatility of convictions.’”

You don’t think he’s including Romney in that description?

He did say that Thompson’s campaign has been lackluster and unfocused, but also said “there are fewer reasons for misgivings about Fred Thompson’s track record in the Senate”

None of the candidates fare that well in this article — Romney was called out for being the most even-keel, and Thompson was called out for having a record that is less of a concern than the records of the other candidates.

Turning that into an implied Sowell endorses Romney” seems funny to me. But everyone can read the article and decide for themselves.


16 posted on 01/07/2008 10:38:11 PM PST by ellery ("I like mandates!" - Mitt Romney, January 5, 2008)
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To: AKSurprise

Naah. It’s called recognizing bullcrap. And Joe Isuzu Romney has it oozing out of his ears.


17 posted on 01/07/2008 10:40:03 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: StandUpBucky

“I guess I like a guy whose whole life and being is wrapped up in being President. (Al Gore or John Kerry ring a bell?!)”

That sentence should read: a guy whose whole life and being ISN’T wrapped up in being President.


18 posted on 01/07/2008 10:40:42 PM PST by StandUpBucky
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To: AKSurprise

My 3rd choice, but I could live with it. DUNCAN 2012!! or 20016


19 posted on 01/07/2008 10:40:44 PM PST by Mark (REMEMBER: Mean spirited, angry remarks against my postings won't feed even one hungry child.)
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To: StandUpBucky

Your right, they are admirable qualities, it’s just not what needs to be done to win a modern presidential election. Thompson may be right, but he’s long-winded, and gets to the point in the most roundabout way. Romney makes his points in short, concise sound bites, which is what’s necessary in today’s media environment.


20 posted on 01/07/2008 10:41:07 PM PST by AKSurprise (" Id rather get 80 percent of what I want than to go over the cliff with my flag flying." (Reagan))
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To: AKSurprise
As Sowell says, Thompson is running a lackluster campaign, and that all but negates him as a major factor in the race.

Uh, no.. That's not what Sowell says.
"Reason to be concerned" = "all but negates him"?
C'mon... Support your man, but don't be a liar about it.

21 posted on 01/07/2008 10:43:31 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: AKSurprise

Romney, for some reason know only to himself, keeps erupting in lies when the truth would suffice.

WE CAN NOT TRUST A PRESIDENT WHO LIES TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

If he does it as a candidate he will do it as an elected official. I don’t care how glib he is otherwise, and Mitt is very suave and salesmanlike.

But he can’t seem to help leaking the all too frequent whopper.


22 posted on 01/07/2008 10:45:16 PM PST by SatinDoll
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To: Lancey Howard

You show me a where Fred rates in the Top 3, in any major state polls, and I’ll give you that one.


23 posted on 01/07/2008 10:45:24 PM PST by AKSurprise (" Id rather get 80 percent of what I want than to go over the cliff with my flag flying." (Reagan))
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To: AKSurprise
You are delusional.

This is all that Sowell said about Romney in the whole article.

“When it comes to personal temperament, Governor Romney would rate the highest for his even keel, regardless of what events are swirling around him, with Rudolph Giuliani a close second.”

And from that you read most “Viable Conservative Candidate” into it.

You have an unnatural love for Romney. Any little praise you see you twist it around to somehow make bogus claims.

24 posted on 01/07/2008 10:45:25 PM PST by JRochelle (Mitt Romney is a liar.)
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To: AKSurprise
Romney makes his points in short, concise sound bites, which is what’s necessary in today’s media environment.


25 posted on 01/07/2008 10:45:26 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: AKSurprise
You show me a where Fred rates in the Top 3, in any major state polls, and I’ll give you that one.

What does that have to do with you misrepresenting what Thomas Sowell wrote?

26 posted on 01/07/2008 10:46:43 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: AKSurprise

it’s a problem that all senators face vs governors. Governors and mayors have to make decisions in real time while senators get to talk and talk in an empty room for hours.


27 posted on 01/07/2008 10:46:45 PM PST by ari-freedom (If it makes sense, then it doesn't belong in our public schools.)
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To: Darkwolf377

I am very disappointed that Sowell would tarnish a man of Thompson’s character and solid conviction with the mainstream media’s slur against his campaigning style. Sowell should know better.

Compounding this is Sowell’s total lack of concern regarding Romney’s missing authenticity and candor. Sowell ought to know better on this acount as well.

Sowell needs to go back and have a re-think because he has the equation very wrong on the Republican side of the ledger.

On the Democratic side his critique is trenchant.


28 posted on 01/07/2008 10:48:32 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: SoConPubbie

Keep your respect for Thomas Sowell even if you have a different favorite candidate.
Nothing he said is wrong or false.


29 posted on 01/07/2008 10:49:03 PM PST by WOSG (angry old coot McCain has been a crazed and frequent backstabber of fellow Republicans)
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To: SatinDoll
"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others."
- Groucho Marx
30 posted on 01/07/2008 10:49:15 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: AKSurprise

Romney is quite unnerving ....

The only issue that he has not pandered on .....

http://www.issues2000.org/2008/Mitt_Romney_Gun_Control.htm


31 posted on 01/07/2008 10:49:49 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Fred Thompson : The Only True Conservative in a Sea of RINO's....)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Have you even read the whole thing?

Sowell as usual write clear and cogent.


32 posted on 01/07/2008 10:50:08 PM PST by WOSG (angry old coot McCain has been a crazed and frequent backstabber of fellow Republicans)
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To: John Valentine
Excellent comments.

I too respect Sowell, but I am kind of shocked that he's buying into Romney. I live in Boston, and I've known members of Romney's staff, and while I like him, he sure isn't my first choice for president.

33 posted on 01/07/2008 10:50:37 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist who will vote Fred in the primary, Republican in November)
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To: Lancey Howard

Yep, that says it all.


34 posted on 01/07/2008 10:51:09 PM PST by SatinDoll
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To: AKSurprise

I looked it up — here’s what Sowell had to say about Romney and Thompson only two weeks ago (hint: contrary to your assertion, he’s not making a case for one above the other — he has praise and criticism for both):

“Fred Thompson seems to have the best policy positions and the best political track record among the Republican candidates — and the least effective presentation of himself.

If Senator Thompson can beat the odds and become president, he would probably be better than most of those who have been in the White House in recent times — though that is not extravagant praise.

The only candidate of either party who truly looks presidential is Mitt Romney. It was unfortunate that Mike Huckabee and others have tried to make his religion an issue.

John F. Kennedy was supposed to have taken that issue out of politics — and Huckabee’s bringing it back in ought to disqualify him for a shot at the White House, even aside from Governor Huckabee’s wholesale pardons of criminals and his raising taxes.

Romney and Giuliani are both articulate Republicans — and it is rare for the Republicans to have two at one time. Some presidential election years they haven’t even had one.

If Romney’s and Giuliani’s track records in office matched their ability to talk, either of them could unite and lead their party to victory. But that is no small “if.”

Romney http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDllMTU2YmMxNjg2YzM4ZDQ3MDk5ZTNlNTcyMmE1MTU


35 posted on 01/07/2008 10:51:16 PM PST by ellery ("I like mandates!" - Mitt Romney, January 5, 2008)
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To: SatinDoll

Huckster is the least honest candidate in the race.

http://therealmikehuckabee.blogspot.com/2008/01/mike-huckabee-lies-about...

“However Huckabee was lying. As reported on www.politifact.com, the original bill only required that the student should have gone to an Arkansas high school for three years and graduated, and that they had to sign an affidavit to the effect that they intended to pursue citizenship.”

Here’s Huckabee caught lying about the AIDS Quarantine issue:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/09/huckabee-deny-quarantine/

Here is him lying about the Dumond parole:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-VSREyq3Uo&feature=related

Another Huckabee lie, this time to Larry King - lied about his ethics violations:

http://www.crosstabs.org/blogs/1_4_romney/2007/dec/18/huckabee_lies_to_l...

Huckabee parole board members contradict Huckabee’s lies about Dumond:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHdd_aZIvys&feature=related

Correcting Huckabee’s lies on his tax record:
http://www.arkansasleader.com/2007/01/editorialshuckabee-lies.html

http://arkjournal.com/2007/11/correction-huckabee-defenders-lying.html


In his press release Huckabee points out that I’m anonymous. It’s true that I am anonymous, but I’ll tell you why. I’m scared to death of how Huckabee has treated friends of mine who crossed him or simply didn’t do what he wanted. Huckabee doesn’t forgive and forget. He gets mad and gets even.

He also claims that my video was taken out of context. It isn’t. Read my entire blog. Feel free. He said he wanted to go on the record. Well, I put him on the record. He begged for a tax increase, any tax increase, and he got it. Today he lied about it on national television and tried to brush it aside by simply saying, “oh, yeah, I guess it wasn’t about a Supreme Court mandate.”

He lied for a reason. He knew what he was saying was wrong. He had plenty of time to think about this. My video has been out there for 2 days. He lied because he knew that what I’ve been saying is true.

Mike Huckabee IS a pro-life liberal.”

And then there is the Hannity interview last Friday where he was a complete weasel on school choice and on immigration.

The man is slicker than a greased salmon!

Huckabee’s ethical issues and dishonesty will catch up with him.


36 posted on 01/07/2008 10:51:47 PM PST by WOSG (angry old coot McCain has been a crazed and frequent backstabber of fellow Republicans)
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To: Darkwolf377

Nowhere is Sowell buying into Romney.

He just said he has an even temperment.

Romneybots take that as an endorsement.

LOL


37 posted on 01/07/2008 10:51:59 PM PST by JRochelle (Mitt Romney is a liar.)
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To: WOSG

Guess Sowell missed the part about Romney and his stance on the Second Amendment ....


38 posted on 01/07/2008 10:53:23 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Fred Thompson : The Only True Conservative in a Sea of RINO's....)
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To: AKSurprise

I read, and then re-read, the whole article. Nowhere in it do I see that Sowell calls Mitt the most viable conservative candidate. He appears to think that Mitt has the temperament that a president requires, with Rudy G. being a close second. By your reasoning, he could also be calling Rudy the second most viable conservative candidate.


39 posted on 01/07/2008 10:53:30 PM PST by Theresawithanh (This is my tagline. FRED!!!!!!)
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To: Darkwolf377

See post 35. The poster has possibly unintentionally presented this as Sowell’s near-endorsement of Romney. Judging from what he wrote both here and two weeks ago, that simply isn’t the case.

I think what it is is an anti-endorsement of McCain.


40 posted on 01/07/2008 10:54:48 PM PST by ellery ("I like mandates!" - Mitt Romney, January 5, 2008)
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To: AKSurprise
You show me a where Fred rates in the Top 3, in any major state polls, and I’ll give you that one.

Um, you're kidding, right?

No? Okay. Well, that's easy, then. How about IOWA?

Qwinn

41 posted on 01/07/2008 10:55:13 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: WOSG

As a home schooler I know what you’re talking about. Huckabee is neither a conservative nor a friend to conservatives.


42 posted on 01/07/2008 10:55:36 PM PST by SatinDoll
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To: Theresawithanh

Nowhere did I say Sowell stated that either. That is my own humble opinion, which I wholeheartedly believe. Look at the facts, Fred has no chance of getting the nomination, regardless of how right, and grounded he may be on the issues. Of the viable candidates Romney, McInsane, Hickabee, and Giuliani, Romney is the conservative of the pack, and has the most leadership experience.


43 posted on 01/07/2008 10:56:41 PM PST by AKSurprise (" Id rather get 80 percent of what I want than to go over the cliff with my flag flying." (Reagan))
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To: AKSurprise
Since my college days, I have been a fan of Thomas Sowell. I'm glad to see he likes my candidate.

It is high time conservatives realize it's Mitt and gather to support him! : )

44 posted on 01/07/2008 10:56:57 PM PST by TAdams8591 ((Mitt Romney '08, THE ONLY candidate who can defeat Giuliani and Hillary and Obama!))
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To: Qwinn

What always surprises me about those poll ratings, Quinn, is that Guiliani is generally nowhere to be seen on them, usually far behind Fred, yet Rudy is treated by the MSM as a real contender.

Talk about bias!!


45 posted on 01/07/2008 10:58:08 PM PST by SatinDoll
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To: Qwinn

Thompson came in third in Iowa, and second in Wyoming. Apparently polls aren’t just out of hand before the vote — to some here and elsewhere, they’re actually more meaningful than the vote. Absurd. :)


46 posted on 01/07/2008 10:58:33 PM PST by ellery ("I like mandates!" - Mitt Romney, January 5, 2008)
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To: AKSurprise

Big stretch there feller. He gives an analysis w/o an endorsement. And, he left out the most conservative guy. That will be changing.


47 posted on 01/07/2008 10:58:47 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Qwinn

Oops! I meant to say Qwinn, with a “W”.


48 posted on 01/07/2008 10:59:34 PM PST by SatinDoll
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To: WOSG

I was referring to his line about Joe Isuzu Romney.


49 posted on 01/07/2008 11:00:14 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: John Valentine

See post 35 — Sowell is criticizing all the candidates. He notes that the discrepancy between Romney’s words and Romney’s record is a big problem.


50 posted on 01/07/2008 11:00:46 PM PST by ellery ("I like mandates!" - Mitt Romney, January 5, 2008)
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