My Fellow Evangelicals Blow It By Supporting Mike Huckabee

North Star Writers Group ^ | January 8, 2008 | Dan Calabrese

[statered]

With his willingness to cover for his son he doesn’t even have the moral personal life part down.

[dforest]

And we had GOP congressional leaders (representatives) who lacked both moral values AND fiscal restraint. That combination screwed the GOP.

Boy if that ain't the truth. The 2006 losses could most likely be described "a perfect storm".

We were all disgusted.

The only thing worse than our own, the Democrats.

[Polybius]

Can a single evangelical out there supply the list of three fourths of all states in the United States of America in 2008 that would ratify EITHER a Right to Life Amendment OR a Right to Abortion Amendment?

But I COULD see 3/4s of the state pass an amendment that protected the right of the states to legislate on abortion (whether for or against).

Hmmm .... That is a definite possibility.

I bet you, though, that any Presidential candidate that supports that would be tarred as "Pro-Abortion" by the evangelicals.

I prefer an overturn of Roe v. Wade as we already have a Tenth Amendment and we do not want to give any validity to the notion that we are a nation ruled by "penumbras" divined by judicial High Priests.

[roamer_1]

It addresses Huckabee’s willingness to grant clemency to murderers and rapist who praise Jesus and claim that they have changed. In my view, Huckabee allows his religious views to taint how the state should be acting. The state is there to ensure justice. Mercy was already factored in at the time of punishment.

I agree in large part. However, Huckabee's abuse of office need not be translated into a black mark against all who are religious, as is often portrayed here on this board. I find it a far reach to lump all Christians into that category, in fact quite the reverse is true.

Neither can his abuses (or any other's) be held against the concept and authority of clemency as granted to various offices. Clemency has it's place, and is a necessary thing.

[Coldwater Creek]

All of this fussing and fighting and name calling sounds just like my former mega Baptist church in Memphis, Tenn.. In fact, I really got confused as to what web sit that I was on.

I’m sitting this primary out for the first time. I have been voting for 45 years.

[Coldwater Creek]

I read your comment page. I really admire you.

[Coldwater Creek]

And, Huckabee doesn’t deserve all of the religious mud thrown at him.

[statered]

These people will have the blood of innocents on their hands because they “just don’t care.”

[Salvation]

They should be supporting Thompson.

[KC_Conspirator]

I see you are one of those who thinks a criticism on Huckabee is a criticism of your own religion and even Christianity itself. I have a friend like you.

[tortdog]

Totally agree.

[tortdog]

Then Huckabee should stop throwing the religious muck, and stick to politics.

But he doesn’t...

[Isara]

Thank you very much for Huckabee's supporters on this thread for being honest. You admit that you know that Huckabee is a "pinko" and you are going to vote for him anyway, just because he is a pastor.

I for one and, I guess, a majority of Freepers still have some doubt about Huckabee's honesty. He is a politician first and foremost.

This is my understanding of Huckabee's supporters. There seem to be two types:

1. Huckabee supporters who care about conservative principles and don't yet know that he is not a conservative. Rush and other conservatives are exposing him on that.
2. Huckabee supporters who know full well that Huckabee is a "pinko." Rush cannot do anything with this group. The more he attacks Huckabee on issues, the more they will dig in their heels. In their minds Rush is a big sinner. (I noticed this from some of the posters here. They dragged out Rush's imperfect personal past.)

What can we do with the second group?

We need somebody who knows the scriptures well and can counteract Huckabee's actions on that basis since he uses the scriptures to justify his actions.

[Preachin']

"All of this fussing and fighting and name calling sounds just like my former mega Baptist church in Memphis, Tenn."

I am only in my early 40s, but this is not terribly different than it was in the past.

Every four years, we have a fight between the social conservatives (almost always pro-life) and the social “moderates” (almost always pro-abortion).

This time it’s especially tough because the presidency is an “open seat”.

[Preachin']

"All of this fussing and fighting and name calling sounds just like my former mega Baptist church in Memphis, Tenn."

I am only in my early 40s, but this is not terribly different than it was in the past.

Every four years, we have a fight between the social conservatives (almost always pro-life) and the social “moderates” (almost always pro-abortion).

This time it’s especially tough because the presidency is an “open seat”.

[dforest]

They haven’t figured out that the opposition to Huck has nothing to do with his faith, it has to do with his policy, and the fact he seems to be an opportunist.

If they have figured it out, and refuse to acknowledge it, then they must care more for his policy, and that is not conservative.

[tortdog]

My opposition stems mostly from Huck bashing my faith. It showed bigotry in my view, and then when I read the information on his reasoning on granting clemency to convicts due to religious faith in Christ (who then went on to commit more crimes), I realized that this man lets his religious conviction blind him to reality.

I want someone whose feet are on the ground. Someone who doesn’t favor his faith above that of others.

[Coldwater Creek]

I don’t remember the viciousness on FR in past elections.

I hate this term, but not real Christian like.

[Coldwater Creek]

Then you will have a president without any moral convictions, no matter what their faith.

[Captain Pike]

There is a lot of talk about the anti-hillary voters who would never vote for hillary. There are also the anti-christian voters, who would never vote for a baptist preacher.

Much of the hatred of Bush is because he's an unabashed Christian. The possibility of a genuine preacher becoming president will bring millions more of these people to vote against him.

I have nothing against Christians or creationists. But there are millions of people out there who do, and it would be suicide for the Republican party to nominate someone that has this kind of background.

Just wait till someone comes up with a video of a Huck sermon. Guaranteed there will be a sentence or two that, taken out of context, will sink his candidacy in November like the Titanic.