Skip to comments.In 1996, Paul Wasn't Issuing Denials
Posted on 01/11/2008 6:59:44 AM PST by jdm
Reason Magazine has long associated themselves with the Ron Paul campaign, if not officially endorsing him. Their Hit & Run blog has served as the heart of rational Paul apologetics, and in their skilled hands, that has proven essential to his campaign. Now, as the magazine has Paul on its cover, its new editor has the unpleasant task of looking a little more closely at the candidate, and Matt Welch finds it an unpleasant journey.
Has Paul really disassociated himself from, and "taken moral responsibility" for, these "Ron Paul" newsletters "for over a decade"? If he has, that history has not been recorded by the Nexis database, as best as I can reckon.
The first indication I could find of Paul either expressing remorse about the statements or claiming that he did not author them came in an October 2001 Texas Monthly article -- less than eight years ago. ...
So what exactly did Paul and his campaign say about these and more egregious statements during his contentious 1996 campaign for Congress, when Democrat Lefty Morris made the newsletters a constant issue? Besides complaining that the quotes were taken "out of context" and proof of his opponent's "race-baiting," Paul and his campaign defended and took full ownership of the comments.
Indeed. Rather than claiming he had never read these newsletters, as Paul absurdly did on CNN last night, Paul claimed that he himself wrote the newsletters. Matt Welch find this in the contemporaneous Dallas Morning News report on the newsletters during Paul's 1996 Congressional campaign (May 22, 1996, emphasis mine):
Dr. Paul denied suggestions that he was a racist and said he was not evoking stereotypes when he wrote the columns. He said they should be read and quoted in their entirety to avoid misrepresentation. [...]
In the interview, he did not deny he made the statement about the swiftness of black men.
"If you try to catch someone that has stolen a purse from you, there is no chance to catch them," Dr. Paul said.
Matt has more examples of Paul's non-denials in 1996. Twelve years later, Paul wants people to believe that not only did he not write any of his newsletters, he never read them either. His role in the single most effective piece of outreach of his organization, he explained to Wolf Blitzer last night, was as a publisher -- one who didn't bother to read his own publication. These 1996 quotes put lie to his CNN interview answers.
Not only does this show dishonesty, but it indicates that Paul had a lot more involvement in the publication of the despicable statements found in his own newsletter than Paul or his less-rational apologists want to admit. The supremacists and conspiracy theorists surrounding his campaign apparently got attracted by more than just Paul's views on the Constitution; they read the newsletters and determined that Paul was one of them. His refusal to recant in 1996 and his explanation that he can't recall ever reading the newsletters today signal to them that he still wants their support.
People wonder why this matters, given Paul's fringe appeal. It matters because we can't allow this kind of hatred to get legitimized in mainstream politics again. This kind of rhetoric used to be mainstream, and not just in the South, either. Republicans cannot allow the party to get tainted by the stench of racism and conspiracy mongering. If enough of us don't step up and denounce it, strongly and repeatedly, we will not be able to avoid it.
Matt Welch and the people at Reason have reached that same conclusion in regards to libertarianism and their magazine. Good for them, even if it came a little late.
Ping and Ouch
This one is gonna sting.
Yeah, like this is shocking to anyone
A new twist worth looking at.
It is not a “new twist.” The Texas Monthly wrote about it back in 2001 when Paul dicussed the issue:
It appears that the good doctor is about to have an “Emperors New Clothes Moment”. His I did not know what was going on excus3e if developing some rather large holes. Still the Pualites will be along to tell us to “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain”. The Wizard is being exposed for the cheap magician he really is.
Is there nothing the Pubbies can do to distance themselves from this guy?
In other news, Hustler Magazine's Larry Flynt was shocked (SHOCKED) to find naked pictures in his magazine.
"I'm just a publisher, someone else takes the pictures," he croaked. "I thought we printed cross-stitch patterns."
Ed left out some bits.
I urge people to read the Reason article, referenced, not just Capt Ed’s summary.
The newsletter was published literally dozens of times in a year and Paul was not the editor. He made a gigantic blunder but it is understandable that he did not read every single story. BTW, when do you think McCain will fully apologize for callling the Vietnamese gooks and Fred will apologize for supporting Aristide? Oh....I forgot Fred said he was againt the embargo (not for Aristide) though he signed a form to the contrary. Shocked, Shocked is right.
Moralist preaching from republicans.
Pull the other one.
I wrote yesterday I would give him the benefit of doubt until he either provided conclusive proof these articles were fraudulent, or claimed responsibility. Well, in today’s world we can’t run away from our past. Ron Paul is the fraud. And his continued association with the likes of Alex Jones, David Duke, Stormfront, et. al. is telling way beyond any apology his supporters can provide.
IMO I agree, Ron Paul is a racist. And those who wish to sugar coat this sickness should be aware of its affect on them.
That is what was in the Texas Monthly too! Did you read it? In the Texas Monthly, he admited that he foolishly stood by the statements when originally published.
“You must have missed the point of this article, the new twist is that in other interviews, he admitted writing those statements and defended them as being out of context. In Texas Monthly and earlier this week he denied writing them and said anyone who thinks them is small minded.”
Actually he set the record straight in 2001.That’s when the Texas Monthly article came out.
No changing the subject, Ronulans.
(That's funny. Captain Kirk is really a RONULAN!)
Ron Paul HAS claimed responsiblity and accepted blame. What more do you want him to do? Can Fred say the same? He signed a lobbying form supporting the restoration of Aristide but now says he was only against the embargo.
Another pile-on thread by people who didn’t read the article...
Not changing the subject. I addressed the point which was about Paul’s alleged racism. Unfortunately, you do not apper to care that McCain called Asians gooks. The emperor has no clothes is right.
“No changing the subject, Ronulans.”
OK - try this.
Post one of the many articles demonstrating Fred’s support of Aristide back in the day.... and see how long it takes before the thread is removed.
If our newsmedia were doing there jobs, instead of pimping another Bushhater, ie, Michael Moore.
His raising of bloodmoney from the UnAmerican Democrat Party members, and Alex Jones conspirazoids should have run him out of the country as a traitor.
But no, modern day Americans put tolerance as their highest virtue, so much so that we find ourselves with no others.
It's pathetic that so many losers on FR are destroying their reputations by defending this pustulent sack of traitorous effluvia.
Wrong! Here are the relevant Texas Monthly remarks: "but those words werent really written by me. It wasnt my language at all... They were never my words, but I had some moral responsibility for them . . ."
Here's what the above post states: "Dr. Paul denied suggestions that he was a racist and said he was not evoking stereotypes when he wrote the columns."
Paul never states he wrote the columns in the Texas Monthly article. The newspaper quotes him as saying so. Big difference. Paul is a fraud.
I f I had been held captive that long and been torture “Gook” would be the “kinder gentler” term I would come up with. Do you really want to put the great Haiti embargo as the thing to blast Fred over. Is that your big gun? I mean FReepers are still all tore up about Aristide.
From Dallas Morning News 1996:
...Dr. Paul denied suggestions that he was a racist and said he was not evoking stereotypes when he wrote the columns. He said they should be read and quoted in their entirety to avoid misrepresentation.
From 2008 Press Release:
I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts.
So what is it, they were never his words and anyone that utters them is small minded or they were his words and just taken out of context?
Go away? That would be nice.
The Claxton Army drinks as much Kool Aid as the RAT moonbats
When the biggest libertarian magazine in the country abandons you, it’s time to fade away quietly.
Very Clown Posseesque. Thanks for posting.
I just got in and already Paul haters are butchering the English language. Did you hear your boy Rudy is too broke to pay his staff this month? Way to go.
Again, the Texas Monthly had the entire story and you know it. Paul foolishly stood by the newsletter when it first came out. He admitted his mistake back in 2001. Now.....when do you think Fred will admit he supported Aristide not the embargo? We’re still waiting. On the other hand.....if you’re looking for the perfect candidate, you should repudiate Fred because he doesn’t make the grade either by your standard.
Time for Paul to slither back to obscurity. His cult can continue to follow and defend him but America will reject him for what he is.
When Thompson supported Aristide in 1991, he was supporting a democratically elected executive who was displaced by a military coup.
The Aristide of 1991 was not Aristide the dictator of 2004.
Actually, Thompson was much like a Ron Paul supporter in one respect: he was taken in by the rhetoric of a scummy charlatan who claimed to be a man of principle.
Unlike Ron Paul supporters, who continue to make excuses for their favorite traitor, Fred Thompson did not drink the Kool Aid and no longer supported Aristide when he violated the haitian Constitution.
Glad to see you supported the marxists overthrowing a democratically elected government and expected everyone at the time to have a magic time machine to predict what would happen after Aristide returned from exile.
I guess that is possible on the Enterprise where the jump around in time on dozens of episodes. This is the real world.
You beat me to it..
So he was either lying then about writing that newsletter or he is lying now.
Which is it?
So he is a fool, heck, I didn’t even go that far..
"Dr. Paul, who served in Congress in the late 1970s and early 1980s, said Tuesday that he has produced the newsletter since 1985 and distributes it to an estimated 7,000 to 8,000 subscribers. A phone call to the newsletter's toll-free number was answered by his campaign staff. [...]
"Dr. Paul denied suggestions that he was a racist and said he was not evoking stereotypes when he wrote the columns. He said they should be read and quoted in their entirety to avoid misrepresentation. [...]"
Dr. Paul clearly admits producing newsletters, and a phone call to the telephone number in the article goes to his campaign staff. His denials are worthless.
I think I figured it out, some posters support Marxist Military Coups.
It doesn't look like that's going to be and issue. Thus far the media hasn't characterized him as a Republican, and the DNC hasn't picked up on the issue. His nuttiness and particularly that of his supporters probably helped in that regard. My guess by the time the general election comes around, he'll clearly not be a Republican. The other candidates will be able to handle this issue if it comes up.
Luckily, the GOP has more brains than you, as evidenced by the New Hampshire GOP boycotting the debate last week after they dumped Paul. I'll take their word over the "steely eyed killer of the deep". What does that even mean, anyway?
So your a “fool” if you ever made a foolish mistake oh perfect one? He made a foolish mistake, just like Fred did when he called for Aristide’s restoration to power (and later claimed falsely to the contrary).
This could cost Ron Paul the Republican nomination for President. /sarc
Probably when the Vietnamese government formally apologizes to him for brutally torturing him for years. Imagine a man having unkind words for the nation that deputed sadists to torture him! What gall! It's not as if he had a good excuse for that kind of language, like having a newsletter for example.
BTW, the torture of McCain started around the same time that Ron Paul was sitting around in an air-conditioned National Guard examination room doing things he didn't believe in in exchange for cash.
“That’s changing the subject from the thread topic: i.e. the demonstrated fact that Ron Paul is a lying scumbag.”
He explained this in 2001.
He’s not lying, and he’s not a scumbag.
However, the namecalling - scumbag, traitor, etc.
Aristide was a committed leftist in 1991, as well, btw.
His campaign was marred buy violence of his supporters, he called the US the “Great Satan,” and he urged his supporters to “necklace” his opponents. This was in 1991.
I guess namecalling is easier than researching.
“Probably when the Vietnamese government formally apologizes to him for brutally torturing him for years. Imagine a man having unkind words for the nation that deputed sadists to torture him! What gall! It’s not as if he had a good excuse for that kind of language, like having a newsletter for example.”
McCain did forgive the Vietnamese govt.
He went with Kerry to get the trade normalization pact done.
McCain opened Communist Vietnam to trade with the US.
Again he admitted writing the newsletter before he denied writing the newsletter.
So he was either lying then or he is lying now.
Whatever the answer, he remains a liar.