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He May Be Unwelcome, but We’ll Survive (Bill Kristol at the New York Times)
The New York Times ^ | January 13, 2008 | Clark Hoyt , Public Editor

Posted on 01/14/2008 8:24:59 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

IN 1972, Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, the publisher of The New York Times, was looking for a conservative columnist for his left-leaning Op-Ed page.

At a charity dinner, he wound up sitting next to William Safire, the Nixon White House speechwriter who coined Spiro Agnew’s famous denunciation of the press as “nattering nabobs of negativism.” They soon had a deal.

But, as described in “The Trust,” the authoritative history of the family that has controlled The Times for more than a century, Sulzberger neglected to involve John Oakes, his cousin and the editor of the editorial page, in the decision. Oakes was appalled when he heard about the negotiations, and not realizing it was too late, offered alternatives. How about Irving Kristol, he suggested.

More than 35 years later, Sulzberger’s son, Arthur Jr. — this time in full partnership with his editorial page editor, Andrew Rosenthal — has hired another conservative columnist for their left-leaning Op-Ed page: Irving Kristol’s son, William.

The choice of Safire, who retired in 2005, set off a storm of protest. “The Times could have saved themselves about 50 grand a year if they just sent an office boy over to the White House to pick up the press releases,” fumed Nicholas von Hoffman of The Washington Post. Kristol’s appointment has not fared any better. “Pretty much the worst idea ever,” grumped Gawker, the New York media gossip Web site.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arthursulzberger; billkristol; columnists; dbm; dinosaurmedia; drivebymedia; editorialpages; foxnews; iraq; media; msm; neoconservative; newyorktimes; pinchsulzberger; sulzberger; traitors; treason; vlwc; williamkristol; yellowjournalism
One of the funniest stories of the year.
1 posted on 01/14/2008 8:25:01 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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2 posted on 01/14/2008 8:28:02 AM PST by digger48 (http://prorev.com/legacy.htm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a real admission of the outrageous leftist, hate Republican, hate America bias they have at the Slimes.


3 posted on 01/14/2008 8:29:40 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Its pretty amusing reading a leftwingnut whining about the NYT looking to make a profit...perfectly sums up how ill prepared a leftwinger is when it comes to economics 101.


4 posted on 01/14/2008 8:32:22 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: KC_Conspirator

bump


5 posted on 01/14/2008 8:32:24 AM PST by prognostigaator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, it’s certainly funny, especially that bit about hanging Kristol from a lamp post. I’m sure he’ll enjoy that.

But it’s also a bit sad. Basically, what this Public Editor or Ombudsman says is, “Hey, calm down and be rational! I wouldn’t have hired this jerk. It was a mistake, sure, but it was a well intentioned mistake! And, yes, he did betray the Glorious Freedom of the Press by suggesting that the Times should be prosecuted for leaking vital national secrets to the enemy in wartime. That was very naughty of him to say that!

But still, guys, be rational! Be LIBERAL! (And maybe in due course we can fix this stupid mistake of hiring this Nazi ogre! But far be it from me to criticize the Boss for making the mistake of hiring him.)


6 posted on 01/14/2008 8:33:19 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Times could have saved themselves about 50 grand a year if they just sent an office boy over to the White House to pick up the press releases

The Times could save a lot more than that by just sending the office boy over to DNC headquarters to get the talking points.

7 posted on 01/14/2008 8:34:35 AM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Checkmate Cruiser")
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To: neodad

This fish wrapper is in free fall and this is the bone they’re throwing us to convince us they are a serious news organization and not the propaganda arm of the DNC, which they most assuredly are.


8 posted on 01/14/2008 8:41:58 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Cicero
“Hey, calm down and be rational! I wouldn’t have hired this jerk. It was a mistake, sure, but it was a well intentioned mistake!...

TRANSLATION: We tried relly, really hard. Give me an A+! I demand an A+ just as if I got it right.

Limbaugh is spot on, effort rather than results is the liberal's yardstick, unless of course it's the other guy.

9 posted on 01/14/2008 8:49:26 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Abolish the CIA, give the job to the Free Clinic who know how to stop leaks.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m still trying to figure out why Kristol debased himself by taking the offer from the NY Times. It’s like buying stock in a slide-rule manufacturing company in 1972.


10 posted on 01/14/2008 8:51:42 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is not a person I would have rewarded with a regular spot in front of arguably the most elite audience in the nation.

Yes...arguably. I'm laughing at the superior intellect.

11 posted on 01/14/2008 8:55:27 AM PST by HoosierHawk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How brave of the New York Times to stand its ground against a firestorm of controversy for hiring a conservative columnist ... what commitment to intellectual diversity.
12 posted on 01/14/2008 8:56:31 AM PST by Polonius (It's called logic, it'll help you.)
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To: ontap
This fish wrapper is in free fall

Incredibly, where I live, this farce of a periodical is treated like left wing holy scripture.

13 posted on 01/14/2008 9:02:38 AM PST by outofstyle (My Ride's Here)
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To: Badeye

I’ve asserted, ever since I read Sowell’s “Citizen’s Guide”, that requiring basic economics training in our public schools would be enough to doom the liberal ideology to irrelevance.

In other words, if people understood economics, there would be no liberals.


14 posted on 01/14/2008 9:05:45 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: outofstyle

Oh yea! But there aren’t enough of them to meet the demand This slime pit needs to pay these liberals their big fat salaries they get for treason.


15 posted on 01/14/2008 9:07:35 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: MrB

Exactly.


16 posted on 01/14/2008 9:11:52 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“He May Be Unwelcome,”

Why would he be unwelcome?

Kristol (Bill’s dad, Irving) suggests of himself, “Ever since I can remember, I’ve been a neo-something: a neo-Marxist, a neo-Trotskyist, a neo-liberal, a neo-conservative; in religion a neo-orthodox even while I was a neo-Trotskyist and a neo-Marxist. I’m going to end up a neo-that’s all, neo dash nothing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kristol


17 posted on 01/14/2008 9:13:44 AM PST by tumblindice (Americas Founding Fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: Lancey Howard

I think it’s a win-win for Kristol. He gets paid well for doing a very undemanding job. He gets to laugh at the freaks who threaten to hang him from a lamp post ala Mussolini. He gets to smile provokingly at his neighbors in the office. And if the Times collapses, he goes to another job. He’s certainly getting a lot of publicity out of this one.


18 posted on 01/14/2008 9:33:02 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Of the nearly 700 messages I have received since Kristol’s selection was announced — more than half of them before he ever wrote a word for The Times — exactly one praised the choice.

Rosenthal’s mail has been particularly rough...

Does this not describe the homogeneity of the liberal hive? 699 out of 700 NY Times readers are rabid liberals who talk with, read and listen to only other rabid liberals.

The benighted inhabitants of the liberal echo chamber never hear a discouraging word...

19 posted on 01/14/2008 9:57:30 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
New York Times: New York Traitors
20 posted on 01/14/2008 9:59:30 AM PST by TChris ("if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesn’t make him my enemy." -RR)
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To: KC_Conspirator

They are biased? Never! They see themselves smack in the middle, anybody to the right of them is right wing.


21 posted on 01/14/2008 10:12:41 AM PST by Tolik
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hoyt faulted the Bush administration for curtailing access and punishing journalists who dare question spoon-fed conservative talking points.

“Washington is at war with itself,” he said. “The mainstream media is caught in the crossfire.

“Not since Vietnam and Watergate have relations between the government and the press been as strained as they are now,” he added. “Powerful forces are very much against our getting the truth and printing it.”

22 posted on 01/14/2008 10:57:53 AM PST by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

shoulda gone with a tried and true shabbaz goy ya’ll.


23 posted on 01/16/2008 3:07:32 PM PST by wardaddy (This election will seal America Nueva as our fate..........this is it......)
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