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"It sucks being in Iraq"
Warwick (RI) Beacon ^ | 01/15/2008 | RUSSELL J. MOORE

Posted on 01/15/2008 3:54:16 PM PST by got_moab?

Albert Jordan, 21, isn’t one to hold back, especially when he describes what it’s like being a soldier in Iraq.

“It sucks…It’s definitely an experience, but it sucks being in Iraq,” said Jordan, a U.S. Army Specialist, during an interview with the Beacon, a day after returning home from his first tour of duty.

“At first it’s kind of exciting because you’re doing different things. You’re doing what you see in video games, but then a couple of IED’s [improvised explosive devices] go off or a couple of bullets go by your head and you go, ‘Whoa, what is this I got myself into?’ And then you start thinking too much.”

The 21-year-old 2004 Pilgrim graduate who lives on Parkview Avenue joined the Army in May of 2005, and was sent to Baghdad, the world’s most dangerous city, in 2006. He spent both his 20th and 21st birthday in Baghdad.

To illustrate the extreme danger soldiers face on a daily basis, Jordan told a story.

One afternoon in Baghdad, Jordan and his comrades were on patrol. They noticed a mound of fresh dirt in the yard of a residence—a telltale sign of a hidden weapons cache. After affirming their suspicions and finding barrels full of weapons, the group followed protocol and checked the lot next door.

Jordan, a staff sergeant and an interpreter approached an Iraqi man in the next house and began to question him.

“We were just kind of standing around, and then we heard a single crack and the wall, just a few feet away from my face, exploded. It went Ka-boom,” said Jordan.

He was the target of a sniper.

“We didn’t know where it was coming from, but someone’s not just going to shoot randomly…We got out of there and I was like ‘Wow, I almost got shot in the face,’” he said.

The story isn’t an isolated incident. It’s one of many that Jordan chose randomly.

That’s the reality of being an Army Specialist in Baghdad. The threat of a sniper’s bullet, an explosion of an improvised bomb or even a drive-by shooting, is as pervasive as the sand during a windstorm.

“You go out and you say to yourself, ‘Is this going to be the last day that I woke up,’” said Jordan.

How does one deal with the reality that death could realistically come at any given second?

“You just don’t think about it. You try not to as hard as you can,” said Jordan.

As time passed, Jordan began to question the purpose of the mission.

“Every day someone is getting killed, and we’d ask ourselves, ‘What is this for,’” Jordan said.

Jordan granted that while he doesn’t like being in a war zone, it does come with the territory. What makes the Iraq war an even harder pill for him to swallow is the fact that he doesn’t understand the rationale for it. After all, Iraq never attacked America, he notes.

Some will argue that America is establishing democracy in the Middle East, but Jordan counters that democracy is something that must come from within, it can’t be imposed.

Most troubling, he said, is the fact that since the invasion, the military has acted less and less like a military and more like police.

“We’re not police officers. We’re trained to go and kill people in battles, not keep them in line,” said Jordan.

Like many in the private sector, while he doesn’t agree with the mission set up by his superiors, he follows orders dutifully.

Jordan said he believes the surge has been successful in reducing violence over the last year, but notes that it also increases the likelihood of soldiers being killed because with more American troops comes more targets for the Iraqi insurgents.

And although he doesn’t agree with the war, he rejects the notion of setting timetables for withdrawals, as some prominent Democrats have suggested. It wouldn’t be wise, Jordan said, to tell an enemy when you plan on retreating.

He believes the U.S. will treat Iraq like South Korea, Japan and Germany and remain there indefinitely.

Jordan joined the Army for a number of reasons.

First and foremost, he comes from a military family. His sister, Shannon Wyatt, is also a member of the Army. His older brother, Don Moyer, a Warwick lawyer, was also in the military before becoming a lawyer.

As a child, Jordan always wanted to become a career military man. But he didn’t get around to joining the Army until a couple years after graduating from Pilgrim. He lacked direction, and decided to do his country a favor by enlisting in the Army.

After completing his first stint in Iraq, Jordan said he has no intention of becoming a career military man.

Despite his distaste for the current war, Jordan deeply respects the military, and is thankful for the benefits of being a soldier. The tax-free pay he receives as a soldier is better than that he earned at his last job before enlisting—he worked at Ocean State Job Lot. Also, before he enlisted in the Army, he was in debt. Now he’s debt free.

When he completes his service, he hopes to either parlay his military experience into a position at a local police department, or attend college.

He fully expects to get sent back to Iraq sometime next year, but he isn’t looking forward to it.

“I’m not happy over there. I’m not happy,” said Jordan.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; US: Rhode Island; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq
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To: got_moab?

I don’t think the guys at Bastogne were happy either... Soldiers always gripe, it’s their right. It’s just now we have an anti-American vulture media.


51 posted on 01/15/2008 4:30:48 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: got_moab?

I sure am glad that when I was a kid there wasn’t any reporters interested in anything I had to say!

Noone ever shot at me when I served, so this young man gets a free pass from me anytime. There was very little about the service I liked when I was in. Half the time I understood why they locked up our guns and seldom handed us ammo.

One thing you can bet: when he’s finished with his time, and prayerfully in one piece, he’ll be forever proud of his service. He’ll be looked up to by his friends and family. He’ll be able to look a lib and war protester in the eye, shake his hand, and wink at his gilrfriend, thinking, she’s going to bed with a pussy.

Here’s to you, kid!


52 posted on 01/15/2008 4:31:56 PM PST by Dogbert41
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To: txradioguy
Image hosted by Photobucket.com ...didn’t change my opinion of the importance of the mission or the job that needed to be done.

and there it is...

53 posted on 01/15/2008 4:36:13 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: got_moab?

I agree. I repsect his decision to serve his country and his opinions are certainly valid since he’s commenting on what he sees. I just wonder how many people did they have to interview till they finally found someone who would say what the MSM wanted to hear about Iraq. If I’m not mistaken there were no quotes from other people in Iraq in this story. If his opinion were a majority opinion they you would think there would be more quotes than just this one soldier. Either way I respect him for serving his country and following thru on his committment to serve country.


54 posted on 01/15/2008 4:37:48 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule (29 days till pitcher and catchers report!)
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To: got_moab?
"After all, Iraq never attacked America, he notes.

Well, as we know here at FR that's not quite true. There is compelling evidence that Saddam was behind the first World Trade Center bombing. Saddam supported al-queda and other islamic terrorist groups intent on harming America and those that had. He tried to assassinate 2 Presidents. Oil for food. We took out of Iraq everything that saddam needed to build a bomb. Saddam's own admission that he intended to restart the nuke program after sanctions were lifted. The zarqawi bomb plot for Jordan and the US Embassy.

55 posted on 01/15/2008 4:39:41 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: got_moab?

It’s not easy, and I understand his feelings.

I’ve muttered the “This sucks” mantra a time or two while in the field.

Don’t be too hard on the kid. Pray for him and his comrades.

I hope they all come home safe and sound.


56 posted on 01/15/2008 4:43:36 PM PST by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: darkwing104
Well I hope this POS finds happiness working at a drive through window at McDonald's...

He says he wants a cop's job—like that's a walk in the park. :-\

57 posted on 01/15/2008 4:45:28 PM PST by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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To: When do we get liberated?
He may also have been misquoted. This seems to be a new tactic with the socialists, disrupt enlistment by lowering moral or misinforming the public. My Nephew drove a track during the liberation for the Marines, came home for a year and was deployed there again. Times were far rougher then and while guarding a power station from terrorists he lost a friend to mortar fire. He never said he was sorry for joining or complained about the hardships of sleeping on the floor of his track or by the side of the road. He did say it sucked being in Iraq but only because it was boring. He was also bewildered by the news shows when he returned, the danger was vastly overstated in his view as the people often brought them tea and the children would play soccer with them.
58 posted on 01/15/2008 4:45:47 PM PST by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: txradioguy

Thank you.


59 posted on 01/15/2008 4:53:41 PM PST by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: pissant

Remember, he is from rhode island........the fairy state.


60 posted on 01/15/2008 4:54:58 PM PST by captnorb
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To: jwalsh07

Airborne! Worry when the troops aren’t complaining.


61 posted on 01/15/2008 4:56:12 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: got_moab?

Not much of what he says is something to be proud of but would you all please remember who got to edit it before you got to read it. He’s there and I’m here, he can have a lot of slack as far as I’m concerned, I still owe him.


62 posted on 01/15/2008 4:56:16 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: sgtyork

Zactly!


63 posted on 01/15/2008 4:57:13 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: quadrant

I recall reading and hearing “embrace the suck”.


64 posted on 01/15/2008 5:04:52 PM PST by mcshot (Missing my grade school desk which protected from nuclear blasts.)
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To: When do we get liberated?

I’ll bet that those criticizing him haven’t been to Iraq.


65 posted on 01/15/2008 5:08:39 PM PST by Eagle Eye (.)
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To: jazusamo

How much time did you spend in Iraq?


66 posted on 01/15/2008 5:09:26 PM PST by Eagle Eye (.)
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To: Eagle Eye
I’ll bet that those criticizing him haven’t been to Iraq.

I'll be the first to admit. I've never been there. But I'll point out two things. First, I'm highly skeptical of media reports of soldiers speaking out against the war, and criticizing publicly President Bush's strategy. Why? Because the press has been know to report stories from fake soldiers.

Second, I know several people who have been over there. My best friend signed up so he COULD go over there, and tried his best to get transferred to Baghdad. Yes, he told me privately that things weren't perfect over there. Yes, he was very ready to come home back to his fiance. However, he would never go to the press and speak out against his Commander in Chief, nor question why they were over there.

67 posted on 01/15/2008 5:17:10 PM PST by GOPyouth ("It's Back-to-Basics time for American Conservatism!" - Rush Limbaugh 01-04-08)
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To: Dogbert41
I sure am glad that when I was a kid there wasn’t any reporters interested in anything I had to say!

Amen to that! When I was in, if anyone had caught me at the right time I would have given him an earful, but I never would have dreamed of trying to get out of doing my duty, and it sounds like this kid is the same way. Not only do I not regret my time in a combat zone, but it was really the only time I felt like an actual soldier. The rest of the time it was just a dog and pony show.
68 posted on 01/15/2008 5:18:45 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: got_moab?

This fellow thinks that he bright enough to have his opinions reviewed in Public, but he’s not stupid for joining in the first place?

Troops always gripe, but this bit of ranting might probably qualify him for a Field Grade Article 15.

Idiot.


69 posted on 01/15/2008 5:22:34 PM PST by Radix (If your outgo exceeds your income, your upkeep will be your downfall.)
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To: jazusamo; pissant
I tend to agree with that, there’s no excuse for the enemedia aiding the enemy.

The beauty of implementing those effective WW II standards is that it would be almost impossible for the Left/MSM to argue against them. All the President would have to do is say "If it was good enough and the right thing to do for FDR, one of America's greatest wartime leaders, then it's good enough for us now."

This would require, of course, a President with the courage to confront the Left/media/Democrats, make his case forcefully and directly to the American people, and stand firm in the face of the inevitable media hysteria and hissy fit they would pitch. Unfortunately, we didn't have a President who was willing to what was necessary.

Perhaps one day we'll have such a man or woman as President...

70 posted on 01/15/2008 5:34:11 PM PST by tarheelswamprat
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To: Eagle Eye

What does that have to do with it? Everyone in the military gripes but few gripe to the left wing enemedia.


71 posted on 01/15/2008 5:34:51 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: tarheelswamprat

One reason that I support Hunter. He was one of the VERY few that wanted to prosecute the leakers AND printers of classified info as well


72 posted on 01/15/2008 5:35:38 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: SandRat

Rhode Island. Says it all. Nice place to visit if there are no Democrats.

Otherwise, it is still a political pile of crap and so are their newspapers.

At one time Rhode Island was part of the US. Now it is the Peoples Republic of Rhode Island. Some of our founding fathers just turned over in their graves.

PS: I didn’t have any trouble in Saigon. More trouble on the streets of DC. What is wrong with this story?


73 posted on 01/15/2008 5:40:11 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Madmax, the Grinning Reaper)
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To: When do we get liberated?

Good post.


74 posted on 01/15/2008 5:40:33 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: jazusamo

The article says this was a day after the guy returned from Iraq.

You called this man a sniveler, yet you’ve not spent a day in his boots.

Nothing he said was over the line in any way shape or form.

He EARNED his opinion of the war and every aspect to it.

YOU exercise your rights because of men like him.

You call him a sniveler but he protects you.

What does that make you?


75 posted on 01/15/2008 5:41:55 PM PST by Eagle Eye (.)
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To: Max Friedman
I didn’t have any trouble in Saigon. More trouble on the streets of DC. What is wrong with this country?

Liberals (aka Socialists)

76 posted on 01/15/2008 5:43:08 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: txradioguy

How did he learn ARABIC by 21?? Is he an ARAB? ARABIC is NOT easy, as I understand.


77 posted on 01/15/2008 5:45:11 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: GOPyouth
First, I'm highly skeptical of media reports of soldiers speaking out against the war, and criticizing publicly President Bush's strategy.

And so you never read any port-a-can graffiti from troops in Iraq, have you?

You think they all love what they're doing, why and how?

A day after the guy returns from his first tour in Iraq and he feels like spilling his guts? So what?

Maybe you should have a few drinks with some vets and see what they really think.

78 posted on 01/15/2008 5:50:19 PM PST by Eagle Eye (Agreeing with Democrats = agreeing with Al Queada)
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To: got_moab?

My son did two tours of Iraq as a Marine. He never complained.
He left for boot camp at 3:30am the day we caught Saddam. I’ll never forget it.


79 posted on 01/15/2008 5:50:44 PM PST by katykelly
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To: Eagle Eye

You seem to be good at hot air EE.


80 posted on 01/15/2008 5:51:00 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: jwalsh07
Hey, it sucked and he did it and from what he says he'll do it again. If I see him I'll buy him a drink. Soldiers do it even when it sucks, the kid is a soldier.

You got that right!

81 posted on 01/15/2008 5:53:31 PM PST by Eagle Eye (Agreeing with Democrats = agreeing with Al Queada)
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To: got_moab?

 

Captain Miller: I don't gripe to you, Reiben. I'm a captain. There's a chain of command. Gripes go up, not down. Always up. You gripe to me, I gripe to my superior officer, so on, so on, and so on. I don't gripe to you. I don't gripe in front of you. You should know that as a Ranger.

82 posted on 01/15/2008 5:54:29 PM PST by itsamelman (Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh. - - Al Swearengen)
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To: Candor7
F'n Cowherd.

Calling a returning 21 year old vet a coward cuz he says thing you don't like?

How despicable of you.

83 posted on 01/15/2008 5:55:34 PM PST by Eagle Eye (Agreeing with Democrats = agreeing with Al Queada)
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To: jazusamo

Unlike you I support the troops.

Did it here, did it there. Doing it now.


84 posted on 01/15/2008 5:56:45 PM PST by Eagle Eye (Agreeing with Democrats = agreeing with Al Queada)
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To: When do we get liberated?
I don’t blame him for a word he said. I am sure nobody LIKES being in Iraq. But he didn’t run away to Canada or shoot himself in the foot. He remained and did his duty as he was called to do. He also never spewed any left wing “its all about oil” crap. Nobody on here wants to take sniper fire at work tommorow. Give the guy a break. He did his duty and it sounds like when he is called, he will do it again.

Yeah, leave it to the boneheads at Free Republic. They are all "rah rah rah Support the Troops", but when a troop says something completely typical of a young soldier (Iraq sucks), they bash the poor kid to pulp.

Hey guess what, folks? EVERY MEMBER OF THE MILITARY THINKS BEING IN IRAQ SUCKS. None of them will hesitate to tell you that if you ask.

Are you prepared to bash every member of the military?

85 posted on 01/15/2008 5:58:32 PM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

Fair weather troop supporters.


86 posted on 01/15/2008 6:00:37 PM PST by Eagle Eye (Agreeing with Democrats = agreeing with Al Queada)
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To: darkwing104
Well I hope this POS finds happiness working at a drive through window at McDonald's...

Hey, screw you! This guy is an American combat vet. He says he isn't happy being in that stinkhole Iraq, and he's a POS that should be flipping burgers? You're a moron.

Go back to DU or Daily Kos.

87 posted on 01/15/2008 6:03:12 PM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: got_moab?
...and decided to do his country a favor by enlisting in the Army. - Jordan.

I don't know how this soldier made it out of BCT. Boggles the mind with an attitude like that. I had tours of duty that sucked, but that's the way it goes.

Jordan, you were very lucky to be born in the U.S.of A.

And Jordan, thank you for your service.

5.56mm

88 posted on 01/15/2008 6:03:44 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: got_moab?

I’ll give the soldier a couple of miles of leeway. I bet a lot of guys in Iraq feel the same way.

Maybe the reporter can take a time machine and ask someone, “What’s it like being on Omaha Beach?”, if either one of them lives long enough to give an answer..


89 posted on 01/15/2008 6:06:06 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Being an idealist excuses nothing. Hitler was an idealist.)
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To: got_moab?
Hey, before any of you people start criticizing this guy, please understand that the stress of war can alter anyone's attitude, especially when your so close to it.

Look, its not like he protested in his uniform, threw his medals over the White House fence, or accused his fellow country men of murdering, raping, and pillaging like JENN-GISS Khan.

90 posted on 01/15/2008 6:07:50 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: pissant
The traitors cannot handle VICTORY my FRiend.
91 posted on 01/15/2008 6:09:18 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Squantos
SIL hasn’t complained. He IS glad to be back after 14 mos. He also mentioned that the last 3 mos were strangely quiet.
92 posted on 01/15/2008 6:09:39 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: steveo
"And although he doesn’t agree with the war, " Moron for joining.

This guy isn't a moron. What he says mirrors what almost every member of the Army I know thinks. I'm active duty Army. You, and most Freepers, would be amazed how many people in the Army think the only reason we should still be in Iraq is to basically "fix what we've broken" and that we can't pull out now because we started this mess and we have to make sure it's fixed before we leave.

That sentiment belongs to the overwhelming majority of the soldiers, NCOs and Officers.

Why is it that bonehead Freepers don't hesitate to bash combat vets if they don't cheer from the mountaintops about how great the Iraq war is? These guys have to actually fight this thing. I think they have the right to bitch about it without being called morons.

93 posted on 01/15/2008 6:10:58 PM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: xcamel

The truth is that it DOES suck to be in Iraq. Both of my kids thought so, my son-in-law thought so, and I thought Afghanistan sucked. And I was at one of the largest and nicest FOBs!

Of course, I’d also volunteer to go back another tour (not likely, got a retirement date and 85% of the PCS-ing folks in my office haven’t been replaced, so we’re a bit short handed).

It is like my Dad said, in one of the very few comments I got out of him about war. He had been in WW2 & Korea, and was about to leave for Vietnam (where he died). He said, “You’re always dirty, you’re always tired - but you have a job to do and you do it.”


94 posted on 01/15/2008 6:11:12 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Without limited government, there is no religious freedom!)
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To: MileHi

Congrats.

Hey, buy him a drink on my behalf.

And since you’re paying (LOL) make it a premium brand!


95 posted on 01/15/2008 6:11:19 PM PST by Eagle Eye (Agreeing with Democrats = agreeing with Al Queada)
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To: jveritas

The media is the traitor, the soldier, well, he’s mistaken.


96 posted on 01/15/2008 6:12:18 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: got_moab?
While soldiers have bitched since the first rock was thrown, I wonder if this guy realizes how whiny he sounds?

Must be a generational thing, because I would at least want to put on the best face possible when my story was told to the world.

97 posted on 01/15/2008 6:14:00 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Don't taze me, bro!!)
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To: Candor7

A bit harsh, IMO.

The kid is griping, not deserting.

Have you served in the military?


98 posted on 01/15/2008 6:14:35 PM PST by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: KC_Conspirator

I’m not criticizing, just felt kind of conflicted after reading this in my local paper and figured I’d see what others felt (particularly those who have served).


99 posted on 01/15/2008 6:15:08 PM PST by got_moab? (got_moab? now comes complete with 50% MORE Hyper-conservatism!!)
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To: pissant

Yes absolutely, the media and liberals are the traitors.


100 posted on 01/15/2008 6:17:47 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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