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FOX: MITT WINS MICHIGAN

Posted on 01/15/2008 6:00:23 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat

Brit Hume just called it.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 2008; elections; flipflopper; gungrabber; hairdo; liberal; mi2008; mitt; mittmentum; pandering; rino; romney
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To: rwfromkansas

I’m guessing the Hillary! campaign is working hard on these types of photos. Most likely with lots of Islamic symbols and hypodermic needles and crack vials. She isn’t going to let some nobody from Chicago take her prize.


301 posted on 01/15/2008 7:56:34 PM PST by LenS
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I expect to see Mitt in a red and black flannel shirt shortly after arriving in South Carolina. More appealing to the locals, you know.

OTOH, if he remains true to his sartorial philosophy, I might consider him a little less slick.

This will be the acid test for me :-)


302 posted on 01/15/2008 7:58:06 PM PST by Chaguito
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Thank you.


303 posted on 01/15/2008 7:59:22 PM PST by Checkers (John McCain is Bob Dole minus the character, humor, class, record, loyalty, mental fitness..)
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To: TheLion

Dennis Prager may not get the ratings the other do but I say he has the best program of them all.


304 posted on 01/15/2008 8:00:05 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: weston

Romney/Allen might be interesting.


305 posted on 01/15/2008 8:00:25 PM PST by TheLion
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To: omega4179
“Mitt is NOT a gun grabber”

Nope, unless the gun is an “assault weapon”, “extremely dangerous”, or “not suitable for hunting or sporting” or a “civilian sniper rifle” or “semiauto handgun”.

We can keep what’s left. he’s clearly and consistently opposed civilian ownership of “assault weapons”, however he defines that vague term.

What did Mitt do for Massachusetts gun owners other than give them a smaller license to own a gun and require that the State Police give a receipt for confiscated guns? Oh yeah, muzzleloader hunters did not have to unload before crossing a road.

Judge Robert Bork, who believes that the second amendment means that a citizen can join a state militia if he wants a gun, endorsed Mitt and Mitt was very pleased to get the endorsement.

306 posted on 01/15/2008 8:01:03 PM PST by DBrow
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To: jveritas

-—Or Romney/Thompson.-—

That would be good. There’s a chance we Republicans will pull this out after all!


307 posted on 01/15/2008 8:01:46 PM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it. I'm optiMITTstic!)
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To: xzins

there should be a WRITE IN RUSH effort if a RINO gets the nomination.


308 posted on 01/15/2008 8:02:06 PM PST by Finatic
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

I heard he plays opposite Rush. That is not a very good idea.


309 posted on 01/15/2008 8:02:18 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Godebert

“The guy is a phoney. He’ll NEVER get my vote. It’s Hunter, Thompson or third party for me.”

Great, then it’s Hillary for all of us. Thanks!


310 posted on 01/15/2008 8:03:06 PM PST by enough_idiocy (Thompson/Romney '08)
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To: TheLion

Yes he does. Prager is delayed here so I still get to listen to both.


311 posted on 01/15/2008 8:03:10 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: DBrow

How come the NRA endorsed the gun bill in Mass?


312 posted on 01/15/2008 8:03:33 PM PST by TheLion
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To: GOP_Lady

Hey. Yes I took my metamucil and all is well. LOL!


313 posted on 01/15/2008 8:05:11 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Yes... well.. I don’t “Know” Dingy Harry.... but, I suspect that.. even he, says he’s “personally opposed” to abortion, but supports a woman’s “right to choose”.

Harry is a Dem... who needs DEM votes... so, he will ‘modify’ his position as much as he needs to, to win!


314 posted on 01/15/2008 8:07:23 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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To: omega4179; TheLion

Feb 18 transcript in which Romney supports banning certain classes of firearms [The second amendment does not have a list of acceptedly weapons]:

Stephanopoulos: Let’s talk about guns. You were supportive of the Brady bill, the handgun waiting period, in the past. You signed an assault weapon ban into law and you said, in the past, “I don’t line up with the NRA.”

Now, you…

Mitt Romney: Well, on that issue.

Stephanopoulos: Now you’re a member of the NRA.

Mitt Romney: Yes, and I know the NRA does not support an assault weapon ban. So I don’t line up on that particular issue with the NRA, either does President Bush. He likewise says he supported an assault weapon ban. [I’ll point out that Bush is not running- is Romney saying he’s another Bush?]

Today we don’t have the Brady bill because we have instantaneous background checks. That’s no longer a operative or needed measure. [So I should be immune to criticism that I once supported it].

But I’m a strong proponent of Second Amendment rights. I believe people, under our Constitution, have the right to bear arms. [Just not “assault weapons”]

We have a gun in one of our homes. It’s not owned by me, it’s owned by my son, but I’ve always considered it sort of mine. [I didn’t really lie when I said I owned a gun but didn’t]

Stephanopoulos: When did you join the NRA?

Mitt Romney: Within the last year and I signed up for a lifelong membership. I think they’re doing good things and I believe in supporting the right to bear arms.
I’ve been a hunter all my life, not frequently, but as a boy, when I worked on a ranch in Idaho, we used to go out shooting rabbits, because they were eating all the barley, and I got pretty good with a single shot .22 rifle, and been quail hunting more recently [at a photo-op hunt with other politicians].

So I’m a hunter and believe in Second Amendment rights, but I also believe that assault weapons are not needed in the public population.
[end transcript]

Romney’s “support of the Second Amendment” does not include those firearms that Mitt Romney thinks are “assault weapons”. I sure would like to know what his definition is, wouldn’t you?


315 posted on 01/15/2008 8:07:32 PM PST by DBrow
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To: claudiustg

Those mitts were great, I love them!


316 posted on 01/15/2008 8:07:33 PM PST by Lady Jag (I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra - https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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To: Godebert
The guy is a phoney. He'll NEVER get my vote. It's Hunter, Thompson or third party for me.

...you just failed the IQ test.
317 posted on 01/15/2008 8:08:30 PM PST by Vinomori
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.

I LOVE that tag line..... :-)

318 posted on 01/15/2008 8:09:15 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.

I LOVE that tag line..... :-)

319 posted on 01/15/2008 8:09:16 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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To: Recovering_Democrat

link? important if true


320 posted on 01/15/2008 8:09:57 PM PST by newbie2008
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Finally I can get a good night’s sleep tonite. I can rest easy knowing the McCain/Huckabee express has been stopped dead in its tracks (for the moment). Although one must be hypervigilant in case they somehow rise from the dead. It ain’t over till its over. Hope Romney gets a good night’s sleep tonite too. He look dog tired on TV when he gave his victory speech. Happy, but pooped. Now, if Thompson can pull it off in SC, then there will be stakes through the heart of the McQueeg/Huckster tag team. Finis.


321 posted on 01/15/2008 8:10:59 PM PST by flaglady47
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To: TheLion

Did they endorse it at first, or after the fact? I believe that they opposed it at first.

NRA usually sends out panic alerts that a bill MUST be stopped. If it is not, they brag about their compromise, then later, suggest that it’s a good thing.

Brady Instant Check, GCA 68, and NFA are prime examples. With NFA, the brag is that the original bill included handguns, and NRA compromised it out.


322 posted on 01/15/2008 8:10:59 PM PST by DBrow
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To: DoughtyOne
.Sorry. You can take a look at this nation today and ask yourself what voting for RINOs has gained you

It has gained us eight years without a second '9/11'. It has gained us a great Conservative Surpreme Court Justice and maybe two.

It has gained us and incredible Military that it's soldiers are proud of and they proud to 'serve in'; while America continues to be it's beneficiary.

These past eight years have gained us a fairer taxation. We have not been incorporated into the UN; nor a 'world government'; nor are we part of the Kyoto Treaty; nor are we functioning at a 'no growth 'Green' level - we are not yet riding bikes to school or work; and we can still 'debate' Global Warming; and we still have Conservative talk radio.

Parent's can still 'home-school' their children; and most can still decide what their kids can take to school - for lunch - in their lunch bag.

As American's; we live with incredible prosperity; abundance and choices. And despite all our problems;and according to polls; most American's are happy with their lives; and economically; are OK.

And this is just a quick, short list. . .but would venture to say; had we had a Lib/Demrat/Leftist working 'their way'; from the top. . .down; few of the above observations would apply, today.

323 posted on 01/15/2008 8:11:52 PM PST by cricket (Hucka-not)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

I don’t know about “best”... I still rank Rush as #1.... but, I put Prager as a close 2nd... and, intellectually, maybe even #1.

I LOVE Dennis!


324 posted on 01/15/2008 8:11:58 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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To: fieldmarshaldj

OK, THIS Conservative supports him - and I’m not a troll, bot or paid shill..nor a RINO liberal.

Romney may not be the ‘ideal’ choice, but he’s a heck of a lot better than ANY of the (R) alternatives.

I will NOT (under ANY circumstances) support McCain or Guliani. (Gang of 14, anyone? Illegal immigration? Social liberals?)

None of the rest can win.

Unless we want the Hildabeast or the Muslim in the WH, we’d better rally behind Romney and just get it done..


325 posted on 01/15/2008 8:12:03 PM PST by jstolzen (All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke)
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To: DBrow

The assualt weapons ban has been seen as very ineffective. What it has become is a political football for people to use to bash their opponents.

The bill would have passed in Mass anyway, so Mitt went to the legislature and the NRA and got it to actually help gun owners in Mass. He tackled the morass of Mass gun laws in the process.

I give him an A on the issue.


326 posted on 01/15/2008 8:12:42 PM PST by TheLion
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To: DoughtyOne
I have sympathy for Fred supporters, but fred is not looking too healthy. Very big and overweight.... not a good omen.... a president needs energy, must be fit.

I dont want to pick Fred, and then find out in August or September that hes had a stroke.

I prefer he be in the VP slot with Romney as POTUS.

327 posted on 01/15/2008 8:12:42 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: flaglady47; fieldmarshaldj

Yeppers, since the moderator cofirmed that fieldmarshaldj doesn’t speak for FR, he most probably does not speak for the South either. The last I looked, he’s not even speaking for himself as he asked to have all his posts on this thread removed... doesn’t want to deal with the replies, I guess....

Fieldmarshaldj, it’s high time you had a dose of your own medicine.


328 posted on 01/15/2008 8:12:55 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Psalm 27)
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To: TheLion

What did they gain for their permanent ban?


329 posted on 01/15/2008 8:16:26 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Lady Jag

330 posted on 01/15/2008 8:16:30 PM PST by TheLion
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To: DBrow

Who knows. All I know is Romney could have stepped aside and said, hey I got an 85% opposing legislature here. Instead he jumped in and made some very good changes. He doesn’t just talk, he gets in there and makes real changes.

He is a unique politician.


331 posted on 01/15/2008 8:19:15 PM PST by TheLion
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To: jveritas; SE Mom

I’m SO glad McQuirky lost.
May it continue.


332 posted on 01/15/2008 8:25:14 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: TheLion

One of the things that bothered me about Romney happened in one of the debates. When the question of taxes was raised he said something along the lines of “I don’t worry about tax cuts for the the $100K+ bracket”. That struck me as pandering at the most base level.


333 posted on 01/15/2008 8:25:49 PM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Good for Mitt. My second choice.

Now that he’s knocked McCain down, and Huckabee finished a distant third, that should open up a chance for Fred to take the gold in South Carolina.


334 posted on 01/15/2008 8:26:05 PM PST by RockinRight (Huck(abee, not the Freeper Huck) Sucks.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

They called it after the polls closed.


335 posted on 01/15/2008 8:28:27 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: DainBramage
But it was over for Romney!!!!.

Yes, the guy just wouldn't listen to the Fox panel repeatedly telling him it was time to get out. Chris Wallace arguing with one of Romney's staffers one night that he had to get out because he was finished. The media is against the people and America.

336 posted on 01/15/2008 8:28:36 PM PST by Hattie
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To: Aggie Mama

Boy you really got to work hard to come up with a reason not to support Romney.

Btw, who was he pandering to?


337 posted on 01/15/2008 8:28:49 PM PST by TheLion
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To: rface
I always liked Romney. I hope he goes all the way.

Yes. Me too.

338 posted on 01/15/2008 8:30:25 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Brilliant

A lot of independents and Dems voted for Ron Paul.


339 posted on 01/15/2008 8:32:12 PM PST by Hattie
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To: TheLion

I think it’s a pretty smart to hesitate supporting someone who isn’t concerned with tax policy with regards to the $100K+ earners.

That’s pandering to the same group that the democrats love to pander to with regards to class warfare—those that think of anyone that works hard and is financially rewarded has “won Life’s lottery.”


340 posted on 01/15/2008 8:34:56 PM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Yes... well.. I don’t “Know” Dingy Harry.... but, I suspect that.. even he, says he’s “personally opposed” to abortion, but supports a woman’s “right to choose”. Harry is a Dem... who needs DEM votes... so, he will ‘modify’ his position as much as he needs to, to win!

Yep. And that is what Mitt is doing. Although he is NOT a flip flopper on abortion like he wants us to believe. He's been lying all these years to get elected Governor of MA. What's worse? A liar or a flip flopper?

That's the problem with Democracy and human nature. Power is addictive. People will say anything to get it. Politicians are like junkies who are willing to rob a pharmacy to get their hands on what's behind the counter.

341 posted on 01/15/2008 8:35:35 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: TheLion

-—The bill would have passed in Mass anyway, so Mitt went to the legislature and the NRA and got it to actually help gun owners in Mass.-—

Bingo! Mitt got something rather than nothing out of a negative situation. People that do this consistently are known as winners. Reagan was a winner and so is Mitt Romney!


342 posted on 01/15/2008 8:35:49 PM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it. I'm optiMITTstic!)
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To: Aggie Mama

It was a light, off the cuff remark....get a life.


343 posted on 01/15/2008 8:38:19 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Reaganesque
Wyoming was a caucus, not a primary. That?s why.

So was Iowa and we heard about that starting at least 6 weeks ahead. Daily. Hour after hour. Polls telling us the Huckster was king. Over and over. So now I wonder if Wyoming left our union or what?

IMO Wyoming is ignored purposely because from the beginning the leftist media determined Romney would not be the Repub candidate. That's because they know he is presidential and is head and shoulders above any Dem candidate they can produce.

344 posted on 01/15/2008 8:42:35 PM PST by Hattie
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To: ErnBatavia
Like I posted here last night, Hillary is going to have to come up with a big ole "Ich bin ein negro" speech....and mach schnell.

Aaaahhh ain't no wayyyysss tirrrrrreeeed!!! Aaaa've come toooooo faaaaaaarrrrrrr!

345 posted on 01/15/2008 8:42:39 PM PST by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: TheLion

That a good Pic of the next president.

Vibrant, intelligent, polite, healthy, charming, likeable .... Everything the Hildabeast is not.


346 posted on 01/15/2008 8:43:47 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: TheLion

The NRA has had a part in writing every federal piece of gun legislation.

They aren’t as pro-2nd Amendment as one would hope.


347 posted on 01/15/2008 8:47:10 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

I assume the pic in post #138 has been photoshopped to change a normal “C” to the star and crescent. If Obama were a stealth Muslim candidate, the last thing he would do is put a star and crescent on his podium.


348 posted on 01/15/2008 8:49:25 PM PST by Steve_Seattle (|)
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To: PA-RIVER

He sure has it, doesn’t he. A very stark contrast to everyone else in both parties. Hillary looks depressed most of the time. I’ve see Romney look a little tired but never depressed like Hillary. She may refuse to debate him, knowing the damage that will follow. I strongly expect many Democrats will cross over and vote for Mitt. Many of them want what is best for the country. I’ll post another Mitt pic to you soon....he has some great ones.


349 posted on 01/15/2008 8:49:43 PM PST by TheLion
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To: samtheman

Romney will get obliterated in a general election. Thompson wouldn’t but Romney would. No likes him and he doesn’t have a genuine conservative bone in his body.


350 posted on 01/15/2008 8:50:12 PM PST by Mister Politics (www.misterpolitics.com)
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