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2007 was 5th Warmest on Record Globally ^

Posted on 01/16/2008 7:03:55 AM PST by chessplayer

It's official, the combined global land/ocean surface temperature for 2007 was the fifth warmest on record, according to NOAA's National Climatic Data Center. Also, 2007 was the tenth warmest on record for the contiguous U.S..

--Global land surface temperature was the warmest on record.

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To: svcw
Personally I like the idea of the earth getting warmer. Longer growing seasons, less fossil fuel dependence, summer clothes are way cuter than winter clothes, more fresh water.

Something quite similar happened, just coincidentally, going into the "Renaissance era".

Kinda' leads me to believe it's a good thing.

21 posted on 01/16/2008 8:12:53 AM PST by capt. norm (Those who think logically provide a nice contrast to the real world.)
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To: Allegra
I wonder if that's all because of global warming? that global warming is showing itself to be a joke, they're calling it "climate change", which is also a manmade disaster.

Slick, huh? ANY weather phenomenon is by definition different and "a change" from what is typical, and "change" is manmade, and bad.

22 posted on 01/16/2008 8:15:27 AM PST by Lizavetta ( Politicians: When they're speaking, they're lying - when they're not speaking, they're stealing.)
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To: chessplayer; xcamel
One I don't believe this, this was a cold year all around the world, they are obviously fudging the data someway

But even if we take these numbers as is, it looks like global warming is over as temps are now in a downward trend.

23 posted on 01/16/2008 8:19:04 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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24 posted on 01/16/2008 8:20:10 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: chessplayer

Did they add in the temp at the center of the earth?

25 posted on 01/16/2008 8:20:52 AM PST by westmichman ( God said: "They cry 'peace! peace!' but there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14)
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To: chessplayer

California and Arizona agriculture took a multi-billion dollar hit because of the freezing (less than 20 deg. F.) weather last Feb 2007. It was the coldest Feb. in 30 years.

26 posted on 01/16/2008 8:39:56 AM PST by Mogollon
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To: Beowulf; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy
"Hot Air Cult"

~~Anthropogenic Global Warming ™ ping~~

27 posted on 01/16/2008 8:53:25 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: Sgt_Schultze

The Earth is several billion years old. "Records" go back only a couple hundred years. Accurate records go back 50? years. The last 50 years out of four billion ... yeah, that makes it easy to spot a trend.


A Chronology of the Earth




Years Ago

Big Bang

Jan. 1

12:00 AM

15,000,000,000 yr

CMB forms

Jan. 1

12:10:30 AM

14,999,700,000 yr

Galaxies form

Jan. 24

12:00 AM

14,000,000,000 yr

Sun forms

Sept. 13


4,500,000,000 yr

Earth forms

Sept. 13

12:17 PM

4,400,000,000 yr

1st life appears

Oct. 24

8:48 PM

2,800,000,000 yr

1st higher forms

Dec. 19

3:07 AM

570,000,000 yr

1st land animals

Dec. 25

4:29 AM

280,000,000 yr

1st dinosaurs

Dec. 26

12:36 PM

225,000,000 yr

Dinos Rule!

Dec. 28

4:34 PM

136,000,000 yr

Dinos Die!

Dec. 29

10:02 PM

65,000,000 yr

Earliest "human"

Dec. 31

9:05 PM

5,000,000 yr

Neanderthal - CM

Dec. 31

11:50 PM

300,000 yr

Last Ice Age

Dec. 31

11:59:37 PM

11,000 yr


Dec. 31

11:59:53 PM

3,500 yr


Dec. 31

11:59:59.6 PM

220 yr


Dec. 31

11:59:59.96 PM

20 yr

28 posted on 01/16/2008 9:04:04 AM PST by itsamelman (Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh. - - Al Swearengen)
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To: The Great RJ
...and yet things cooled down during the 1940’s.

A minor addition, if I may:

and continued cooling into the 1970's (even as global CO2 levels ramped up due to the post-war economic growth).

29 posted on 01/16/2008 9:09:33 AM PST by Bob
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To: itsamelman

Great table. That’s a lot of typing. Can you put on the predictor’s hat and guess when the scientists will realize we are in more danger from the next ice age than from warming?

30 posted on 01/16/2008 9:20:47 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Can you put on the predictor’s hat and guess when the scientists will realize we are in more danger from the next ice age than from warming?


"The Cooling World" - by Peter Gwynne
April 28, 1975 Newsweek

There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production – with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now.

The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self-sufficient tropical areas – parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia – where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon.
The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it. In England, farmers have seen their growing season decline by about two weeks since 1950, with a resultant overall loss in grain production estimated at up to 100,000 tons annually. During the same time, the average temperature around the equator has risen by a fraction of a degree – a fraction that in some areas can mean drought and desolation. Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars' worth of damage in 13 U.S. states.

To scientists, these seemingly disparate incidents represent the advance signs of fundamental changes in the world's weather. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. If the climatic change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic. “A major climatic change would force economic and social adjustments on a worldwide scale,” warns a recent report by the National Academy of Sciences, “because the global patterns of food production and population that have evolved are implicitly dependent on the climate of the present century.”

A survey completed last year by Dr. Murray Mitchell of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reveals a drop of half a degree in average ground temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere between 1945 and 1968. According to George Kukla of Columbia University, satellite photos indicated a sudden, large increase in Northern Hemisphere snow cover in the winter of 1971-72. And a study released last month by two NOAA scientists notes that the amount of sunshine reaching the ground in the continental U.S. diminished by 1.3% between 1964 and 1972.
To the layman, the relatively small changes in temperature and sunshine can be highly misleading. Reid Bryson of the University of Wisconsin points out that the Earth’s average temperature during the great Ice Ages was only about seven degrees lower than during its warmest eras – and that the present decline has taken the planet about a sixth of the way toward the Ice Age average.

Others regard the cooling as a reversion to the “little ice age” conditions that brought bitter winters to much of Europe and northern America between 1600 and 1900 – years when the Thames used to freeze so solidly that Londoners roasted oxen on the ice and when iceboats sailed the Hudson River almost as far south as New York City.

Just what causes the onset of major and minor ice ages remains a mystery. “Our knowledge of the mechanisms of climatic change is at least as fragmentary as our data,” concedes the National Academy of Sciences report. “Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions.”

Meteorologists think that they can forecast the short-term results of the return to the norm of the last century. They begin by noting the slight drop in overall temperature that produces large numbers of pressure centers in the upper atmosphere. These break up the smooth flow of westerly winds over temperate areas. The stagnant air produced in this way causes an increase in extremes of local weather such as droughts, floods, extended dry spells, long freezes, delayed monsoons and even local temperature increases – all of which have a direct impact on food supplies. “The world’s food-producing system,” warns Dr. James D. McQuigg of NOAA’s Center for Climatic and Environmental Assessment, “is much more sensitive to the weather variable than it was even five years ago.” Furthermore, the growth of world population and creation of new national boundaries make it impossible for starving peoples to migrate from their devastated fields, as they did during past famines.

Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies. The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality.

31 posted on 01/16/2008 9:45:04 AM PST by itsamelman (Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh. - - Al Swearengen)
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To: Ingtar
contradicting what NASA already reported from the same data.

Probably not exactly the same data. Different groups use different inputs, and then do different things with them...which is why from one group to another you can get sizable differences. Take a peek at the graphs here. While they were made for a differnt purpose, they show that, for example, GISS and UKMet get different results. (RSS and UAH are two different satellite systems)

32 posted on 01/16/2008 10:07:58 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Allegra

Winter 2007 saw the Phoenix, AZ area freeze for the first time in decades. People all over the valley lost trees and plants. This winter seems to be shaping up to be another really cold one.

33 posted on 01/16/2008 10:08:14 AM PST by DejaJude
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To: chessplayer; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; SideoutFred; Ole Okie; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off
Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown
Dr. John Ray's

34 posted on 01/16/2008 11:16:29 AM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: Iron Munro; xcamel

That’s one of my all-time favorite Ramirez cartoons, and THAT’s saying a LOT! It really sums up the closed-minded, condemning, inquisitorial attitude of the AGW “believers”.

Thanks for the smile!

xcamel: Thanks so much for the ping; I see the wackos are making fools of themselves YET again!

35 posted on 01/16/2008 11:31:55 AM PST by alwaysconservative (Governor Huckabee, it is not un-Christian to insist on enforcing our immigration laws!)
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To: chessplayer

Hell froze over last week when Suadi Arabia saw snow.

36 posted on 01/16/2008 11:33:47 AM PST by AU72
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To: ontap
Of it was, considering how the damn thermometers were purposely put in parking lots. The whole damn thing is ridiculous.

Check out this graph of avg temp readings vs qty of temp stations
37 posted on 01/16/2008 11:38:26 AM PST by WackySam
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To: itsamelman

Neat chart!

38 posted on 01/16/2008 11:39:23 AM PST by alwaysconservative (Governor Huckabee, it is not un-Christian to insist on enforcing our immigration laws!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

You noticed that bit of prejudice at Accuweather also, didn’t you?

39 posted on 01/16/2008 11:56:35 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: chessplayer

No, no, no! The NOAA has it all wrong...the GISS has 2007 as #2 and 2007 would have been #1 except that “equatorial Pacific Ocean is in the cool phase of its natural El Nino - La Nina cycle”. It must be true because The Oregonian used the GISS report also for their story. no link for the fishwrap story, but, here is the link for the GISS report;

40 posted on 01/16/2008 1:31:59 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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