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San Francisco police reviewing tiger victims' cell phones, car
Mercury News ^ | 1/16/2008 | Leslie Griffy

Posted on 01/16/2008 12:35:55 PM PST by repinwi

San Francisco police today began their review of the cell phones and car belonging to the survivors of a Christmas Day tiger attack at the San Francisco Zoo, officials said.

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A San Francisco Superior Court judge granted a search warrant allowing police to examine the cell phones and car on Tuesday.

For police and city officials to get the warrant, they needed to show probable cause of felony wrongdoing, a city official said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: animalsarepeopletoo; idiots; sanfrancisco; tiger; zoo
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1 posted on 01/16/2008 12:35:56 PM PST by repinwi
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To: repinwi

AFTER they’ve already said there would be no charges?


2 posted on 01/16/2008 12:38:28 PM PST by digger48 (http://prorev.com/legacy.htm)
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To: repinwi
The more I read about this case, the more the perps appear to be irresponsible, barbaric, bullying assclowns with no respect for rules, authority, or even their own parents.

What kind of person evades Christmas with the family and instead gets drunk and goes to the zoo?

3 posted on 01/16/2008 12:39:36 PM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (I'm really made of people!)
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To: digger48
From another article:

"...Santa Clara County prosecutor Stuart Scott told Superior Court Judge Michele McKay McCoy on Tuesday that he will file a charge of battery on a police officer against 19-year-old Paul Dhaliwal.

Dhaliwal and his older brother, Kulbir, 23, already face two misdemeanor counts of public drunkenness and resisting arrest. The incident happened On Sept. 7, after police stopped them for questioning as they walked down a street near their home. Police were responding to reports of a fight and thought they looked suspicious...

4 posted on 01/16/2008 12:42:29 PM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (I'm really made of people!)
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-

They remind ne of a bulgular who falls through a skylight and wants to sue the building owner. Treat them like Columbo ... (lame AI reference from yesterdays show).


5 posted on 01/16/2008 12:46:29 PM PST by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: repinwi

YOu gotta be a pretty big jerk to make me root for the tiger, but these guys look like they fit the bill.


6 posted on 01/16/2008 12:46:35 PM PST by gridlock (300,000,000 Americans will not be elected President in 2008. Hillary will be one of them.)
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-

Thanks, I’d not seen that.


7 posted on 01/16/2008 12:46:52 PM PST by digger48 (http://prorev.com/legacy.htm)
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-
The more I read about this case, the more the perps appear to be irresponsible, barbaric, bullying assclowns with no respect for rules, authority, or even their own parents. What kind of person evades Christmas with the family and instead gets drunk and goes to the zoo?

One: Were they actually drunk? Two: Did they really have slingshots with them? Three: If they had been drinking what was their blood alcohol level? Four: Do you really think that someone deserves to be chewed and killed by a tiger for merely teasing it somewhat? Five: Where were the officials that are supposed to stop this type of teasing(if such really occured)? Six: Why are you not calling the zoo officials assclowns for having a fence 4 feet lower than reccomended for containing tigers?

To answer your question about who evades Christmas to go get drunk at the zoo, I really don't know. What I do know is that evading Christmas and getting drunk at the zoo isn't a death penalty offense.

8 posted on 01/16/2008 12:47:12 PM PST by calex59
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To: digger48

They need to preserve evidence for the inevitable civil suit against the zoo, part of which is owned by the city.

If the guys were making a video for YouTube or something like “Jackass,” that needs to be known, as an aggravating factor.


9 posted on 01/16/2008 12:51:15 PM PST by Rte66
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To: calex59

. . . personal accountability . . .


10 posted on 01/16/2008 12:54:02 PM PST by Per-Ling
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To: calex59
Four: Do you really think that someone deserves to be chewed and killed by a tiger for merely teasing it somewhat?

Yes.

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Six: Why are you not calling the zoo officials assclowns for having a fence 4 feet lower than reccomended for containing tigers?

Well, the height of the wall was never an issue until these punks came along.

11 posted on 01/16/2008 12:54:29 PM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (I'm really made of people!)
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To: calex59
Four: Do you really think that someone deserves to be chewed and killed by a tiger for merely teasing it somewhat?

Anti-animal hate crime. The tiger is not guilty by reason of temporary insanity, and the police overreacted and shot a member of an underprivileged minority who should not be held accountable for reacting when provoked.

12 posted on 01/16/2008 12:56:34 PM PST by AbeKrieger (There is a special place in Hell for Lyndon Johnson.)
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To: AbeKrieger
Anti-animal hate crime. The tiger is not guilty by reason of temporary insanity, and the police overreacted and shot a member of an underprivileged minority who should not be held accountable for reacting when provoked.

Sad to say but there are a whole bunch of morons who really believe that.

13 posted on 01/16/2008 12:59:52 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: calex59

If indeed they were taunting the tiger, of course I don’t think they deserved to get killed for it. HOWEVER, they were endangering every other human at the zoo, which is incredibly irresponsible.

Then again, they had every reason to believe the tiger couldn’t get out.


14 posted on 01/16/2008 1:00:59 PM PST by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: calex59
Four: Do you really think that someone deserves to be chewed and killed by a tiger for merely teasing it somewhat?

Simply put: HELL YEAH!!!


15 posted on 01/16/2008 1:01:34 PM PST by bshomoic
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-
All of that stuff dates back to september, has nothing to do with the tiger BS, it is a misdemeanor charge.
16 posted on 01/16/2008 1:06:39 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: gridlock
YOu gotta be a pretty big jerk to make me root for the tiger...

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Why? Man put a wild animal in a cage. The tiger sure would prefer to be at home in the wild. How would you like to be put in a cage? The perps that taunted the tiger should be in jail.

I back Tygger.

17 posted on 01/16/2008 1:07:19 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-
What kind of person evades Christmas with the family and instead gets drunk and goes to the zoo?

Uhhh, judging by their names, non-Christians who don't celebrate Christmas?

18 posted on 01/16/2008 1:08:01 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Whatever enables us to go to war, secures our peace." —Thomas Jefferson)
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To: calex59; pandoraou812
Do you really think that someone deserves to be chewed and killed by a tiger for merely teasing it somewhat?

I'll bet the tiger thought so.

There are consequences for their actions even if they didn't like them. Reality smacked them upside the head and now they don't like it. Too bad.

If the cell phones have evidence that this was some sort of gang initiation or something, the other two guys should be charged with manslaughter, of homicide and shouldn't get a penny from the lawsuit they were so quick to file.

19 posted on 01/16/2008 1:09:22 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: repinwi
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20 posted on 01/16/2008 1:09:36 PM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: calex59
"Four: Do you really think that someone deserves to be chewed and killed by a tiger for merely teasing it somewhat? "

Apparently, the tiger thought so.

21 posted on 01/16/2008 1:09:46 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: org.whodat

News that police were granted a search warrant implies a reinvigorated criminal investigation.


22 posted on 01/16/2008 1:10:30 PM PST by repinwi
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To: metmom

of homicide=or homicide


23 posted on 01/16/2008 1:10:38 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: calex59

“Four: Do you really think that someone deserves to be chewed and killed by a tiger for merely teasing it somewhat?”

Ever hear of the saying “You mess with the bull, you get the horn”?

“Five: Where were the officials that are supposed to stop this type of teasing(if such really occured)?”

What the the zoo officials supposed to do, have people stationed at every exhibit telling them “dont tap on the glass”? IF these idiots wanted to see how much they could pizz off a tiger, they got their wish.


24 posted on 01/16/2008 1:10:42 PM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: calex59
Well, if nothing else, this makes me think what my Mom told me when I was little is true: you go looking for trouble, you’ll probably find it. No, they probably (in this instance anyway) didn’t deserve to die. Then again, nobody forced them to go harass that animal. They were people, they had a choice in their behavior. The animal was probably acting only on instinct. I know which I hold more responsible if it were up to me.
25 posted on 01/16/2008 1:11:43 PM PST by chimera
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To: calex59
One: Were they actually drunk?
Answer: This is important to any civil suit, even if they were sober or drunk.  It is important.
 
Two: Did they really have slingshots with them?
Answer: This is important to any civil suit.
 
Three: If they had been drinking what was their blood alcohol level?
Answer: This is important to any civil suit.
 
 
Four: Do you really think that someone deserves to be chewed and killed by a tiger for merely teasing it somewhat?
Perhaps they do not deserve to be killed for animal cruelity, but they at least deserve some jail time.  Unfortunately, Tigers have their own law (Law of Nature), and the Tiger applied that law.  You can bet, if these "kids" shot me while was in a cage and unable to defend myself, with a slingshot, I would be in a rage, and they lives would be in danger.  You have no basis for saying "teasing somewhat".
 
Five: Where were the officials that are supposed to stop this type of teasing(if such really occured)?
Answer: This is important to any civil suit.
 
Six: Why are you not calling the zoo officials assclowns for having a fence 4 feet lower than reccomended for containing tigers?
Answer: This is important to any civil suit.
 
.....Bob

26 posted on 01/16/2008 1:11:46 PM PST by Lokibob (Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
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To: John Jorsett

WOW!!!!! That’s probably what’s on their cell phones! How did you get a hold of the pics so fast? LOL


27 posted on 01/16/2008 1:11:52 PM PST by repinwi
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To: repinwi

Unless these people actually let the tiger out, this is 100% the zoo’s responsibility, 0% anyone else’s. We can thank lawyers for our modern views on responsibility (the criminal is the victim, the victim is the criminal, etc).


28 posted on 01/16/2008 1:13:01 PM PST by microgood
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To: Per-Ling; calex59
. . . personal accountability . . .

Yes. Not much of that anymore.

Reminds me of the dopey broad who spilled hot coffee in her crotch and blamed McDonalds. Moron...

29 posted on 01/16/2008 1:13:28 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Cobra64

The tiger “Tatiana” was born in captivity. Has no knowledge what it’s like to be out in the wild or to hunt. Their mother teaches them that. BORN IN CAPTIVITY.


30 posted on 01/16/2008 1:14:18 PM PST by repinwi
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To: calex59
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31 posted on 01/16/2008 1:14:52 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: repinwi
The tiger “Tatiana” was born in captivity. Has no knowledge what it’s like to be out in the wild or to hunt. Their mother teaches them that. BORN IN CAPTIVITY.

Yippee. Let's all go jump into a shark tank at Sea World.

32 posted on 01/16/2008 1:17:10 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: calex59
One: Were they actually drunk? Two: Did they really have slingshots with them? Three: If they had been drinking what was their blood alcohol level? Four: Do you really think that someone deserves to be chewed and killed by a tiger for merely teasing it somewhat? Five: Where were the officials that are supposed to stop this type of teasing(if such really occurred)? Six: Why are you not calling the zoo officials assclowns for having a fence 4 feet lower than recommended for containing tigers?

If these sterling contributors to American society knowingly did anything to disturb that display animal, they are best Darwined from our society.

As for the politically correct SF city and zoo idiots, they are grossly negligent and deserve prison.

The Tiger was improperly managed and trained and is better off dead, still, she won two battles, while losing the campaign.

Stupidity is a capital crime, not always enforced.

33 posted on 01/16/2008 1:17:41 PM PST by Navy Patriot (The hyphen American with the loudest whine gets the grease.)
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To: repinwi

“Zoo officials have implied that the young men taunted the tiger. “

Pretty weak. A human can taunt a tiger simply by making eye contact. Same with bears and other predatorial animals.


34 posted on 01/16/2008 1:20:34 PM PST by death2tyrants
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To: gridlock
You gotta be a pretty big jerk to make me root for the tiger, but these guys look like they fit the bill.

I couldn't agree more.

35 posted on 01/16/2008 1:20:44 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-
“What kind of person evades Christmas with the family and instead gets drunk and goes to the zoo?”

You obviously never met my daughter-in-law's family.

36 posted on 01/16/2008 1:22:30 PM PST by sticker
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To: repinwi
News that police were granted a search warrant implies a reinvigorated criminal investigation.

No it indicates the city is looking for a bolt hole to reduce the amount of the pay out, nothing more. Their search warrant will not stand up if front of the appeals court.

37 posted on 01/16/2008 1:22:44 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Navy Patriot

“If these sterling contributors to American society knowingly did anything to disturb that display animal, they are best Darwined from our society.”

At the very least they are guilty of violating the rule about not feeding the animals.


38 posted on 01/16/2008 1:23:03 PM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-

Well, the height of the wall was never an issue until these punks came along...................The state of a drunken driver is never an issue either unless he is caught or kills someone .


39 posted on 01/16/2008 1:23:25 PM PST by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: Cobra64
No need to go in the shark tank just watch out for your dog/cat as it just may turn on you because it's ancestors were born wild.
40 posted on 01/16/2008 1:24:43 PM PST by repinwi
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To: death2tyrants

We don’t know what level of taunt there is. It could be there were things thrown at the tiger. That would be considered taunt. Why people think taunt is like teasing I will never know.


41 posted on 01/16/2008 1:27:11 PM PST by repinwi
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To: org.whodat

Well hopefully they won’t dog around and will look at the phones before it can get to an appeal.


42 posted on 01/16/2008 1:28:22 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: repinwi

Even taunting, the cat shouldn’t have been able to get out. They need to know if these guys were in the den and if the cat used them or a rope or something to climb over.


43 posted on 01/16/2008 1:31:08 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Hacklehead
Ever hear of the saying “You mess with the bull, you get the horn”?

It's bad enough these animals have to be in cages...Some of them were rescue animals, which is good, but taunting them in anyway is beyond stupidity, and only a twisted moron or very young child would try something like that.

44 posted on 01/16/2008 1:31:14 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: gridlock

I root fo the (Tiger) in a matter of self preservation. Those three thugs picked on the wrong canine and were on the wrong turf.

Too, bad the Tiger did not eliminate all three. This trio with the exception minus one ,will probably be permanent residents of a correctional facility in the near future.

In homage to the Tiger, he or she did what was natural, defend itself against jackals in human form.

Respectfully,
NSNR


45 posted on 01/16/2008 1:33:12 PM PST by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
Too, bad the Tiger did not eliminate all three

Drunk or doing something stupid, I would hope that I (and you) would have tried to help someone from being killed.

46 posted on 01/16/2008 1:39:32 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: repinwi

“BORN IN CAPTIVITY.”

Yeah, and without instincts as a result? Gimme a break.

And as far as the argument goes regarding that ‘just because they were taunting the cat doesn’t mean they deserved to die’, well, just because someone drives 90 mph shouldn’t mean they have ‘earned a death sentence’, but few would argue that the 90 mph driver doesn’t bear the bulk of the blame when they slam it into the center divider.


47 posted on 01/16/2008 1:42:01 PM PST by raptor29
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To: CindyDawg

I’m curious about the civil suit anyway. In California, the suit is customarily brought where the DEFENDANT resides, not the plaintiff. My guess is there will be a venue transfer motion back to San Francisco.

In any event, the Santa Clara judge has no authority to strike down a search warrant issued in a San Francisco criminal case. Plus, in a civil suit, the defendants can simply seek the contents of the cell phones through discovery and seen sanctions if the plaintiffs destroy the evidence.


48 posted on 01/16/2008 1:49:18 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: raptor29

“Yeah, and without instincts as a result? Gimme a break.”

The word instinct means a behavior that is built in, and doesnt have to be learned. No one has to teach a fish how to swim, or teCH a tiger to kill you when you pizz it off.


49 posted on 01/16/2008 1:51:58 PM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: CindyDawg
cat used them or a rope or something to climb over.

I do believe there would have been blood on the wall if that had happened. ROFLOL

50 posted on 01/16/2008 1:54:09 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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