Skip to comments.Rohrabacher, Hunter call for agents' pardon
Posted on 01/17/2008 11:37:31 PM PST by pissant
Two California Republican congressmen yesterday called on President Bush to pardon two former U.S. Border patrol agents sent to prison a year ago this week for shooting a drug-smuggling suspect in the buttocks as he fled back into Mexico.
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher accused Mr. Bush of being "arrogant and heartless" for refusing to pardon or commute the sentences of former agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean, who were ordered last January to serve 11- and 12-year prison sentences, respectively.
He said they had spent the past year in solitary confinement "suffering conditions worse than detainees at Guantanamo Bay.
"It has been a year since Border Agents Ramos and Compean entered prison," Mr. Rohrabacher said. "This marks a year of shame for President Bush, who has been fully aware of the details of this blatant miscarriage of justice and chosen to do absolutely nothing about it.
"The president has shown us his arrogant and heartless side by permitting the wrongful incarceration of Ramos and Compean to continue," he said.
Rep. Duncan Hunter, a Republican presidential candidate who in- troduced a still-pending bill last year to pardon the agents, said Congress and the American people have "repeatedly expressed their outrage that such an injustice has been allowed to occur."
"These agents were convicted solely on the testimony of the drug dealer, who has since been indicted on federal drug charges for running drugs into the United States while serving as a federal witness," Mr. Hunter said. "Most disturbingly, he did so with border crossing cards he obtained for his cooperation."
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They shot him in the back(side)?
Sounds real honorable.
Duncan Hunter can’t even get top billing in a news headline.
How do you expect him to get top billing on the GOP ticket?
Thank you for supporting those two Border Agents.
EAGLES UP, everyone!
And, DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT BUMP!
It exited the front of him so, six of one, half dozen of the other.
Good for them.
On a similar topic, I just saw an article on MSN that says the death penalty in the U.S. is forcing crimianl fugitives to flee to Mexico. No kidding: Fugitives Flee to Mexico to Avoid Death.
Like they would stay here if life in prison was their option.
I’m too lazy to post it.
Checking my e-mails earlier there was one from a “conservative” org that have been championing Ramos & Compean’s cause. While they praised Rohrabacher to high heaven, providing his phone number to call and thank him, they never mentioned Hunter or the bill HE introduced to free our agents.
That’s because the MSM, the RHINO’s, the DNC, the gov within the gov, Mexico, the CFR, China, OPEC, etc., do not want a true conservative as POTUS. They do not want another President with any core values close to Regan’s, PERIOD!!
you are halfway there
As usual, no pings over the weekend. !!GO PACK!!
The bullet was never proven to have come from a BP gun...
And he was shot in the side of his backside and never complained about it for a month...
just when was he actually shot ????
“Duncan Hunter cant even get top billing in a news headline.
How do you expect him to get top billing on the GOP ticket?”
My expectations are high Oh ye of little faith...
From the description of the wound, it’s sounds if it could be from a gun hidden in his waistband that discharged during his escape. (or as he was removing it)
We’ll never know what really happened.
Slow day over at DU?
So two border patrol agents were convicted on the word of a drug running illegal?
Sounds real honorable. /s (just because some people need the sarcasm tag)
We could, arrest the foreign invader criminal drug dealer and waterboard him. I have a feeling he would tell all.
‘Yep, typical of our current “justice system” .....
OOOOOHH you’re CLEVER!
Really. That is a different story.
I must admit to not having read the facts.
Basically it only serves to reinforce questions about the justice system in America in general.
Let’s all continue to contact the president and tell him to pardon these two men.
I don’t expect anything different from someone who continually supports the criminal element.
I’m game. Could some private citizens do that? Not likely the Fed would do it.
Very Good, Rasta!
Pay attention or don’t bother to comment
How nice of them.
I’d trust Jeff Sessions in the Senate, but not too many others, certainly not the ones running now.
Thanks to Johnny Sutton
You need to take Chertoff’s job.
I have and will continue
Thanks for the ping. B4DH.
“The bullet was never proven to have come from a BP gun...”
A full ballistics report was done showing the bullet matched Ramos’s .40 caliber service weapon. Both defense attorneys stipulated to the report at trial, meaning they didn’t object to and agreed with it’s findings.
“And he was shot in the side of his backside and never complained about it for a month...”
AOD testified at trial he immeditely went to a Mexican doctor but the severed urethra was beyond his skills to repair. As it is he will be wearing a Foley Bag (an outside bag that catches urine and has to be emptied several tims a day) for the rest of his life because he’s missing one inch of his urethra and that cannot be fixed.
Think what you want about this incident but let’s try to keep the facts straight.
“From the description of the wound, its sounds if it could be from a gun hidden in his waistband that discharged during his escape.”
The bullet entered his left buttuck from the rear and side, severed his urethra, bounced off his pelvis and then lodged in his right thigh where it was later removed by US surgeons.
Do you still want to calim he shot himself? Facts are a wonderful thing to have.
Commutation of the sentence, not a pardon.
“So two border patrol agents were convicted on the word of a drug running illegal?”
Several of the jury members were quoted as saying they paid little attention to the testimony of OAD but convicted on R&C’s own unbelieveable and contradictory testimony, the damning testimony of other agents on the scene whose statements directly contradicted those of R&C, and their attempted cover up of the incident.
One was even quoted saying “It’s sad when the testimony of a drug mule is more believeable than that of the officers.”
You have all these people misrepresenting what went on that day and at trial and not one of them has bothered to read the trial transcripts to find out what really happened.
That’s real honorable. </s>
“Really. That is a different story. I must admit to not having read the facts.”
It’s “really a diofferent story because it is not true. If you want to know the facts, read the trial transcripts. (NOTE: It will take you several days reading off and on.)
Huckabee has some strong words about this case.
This could have been done a year ago, would fly through congress and be signed immediately by Bush. It would get R&C out of prison and protect all future LEO's from the same danger.
My question is WHY HAS IT NOT BEEN DONE? Why are R&C being allowed to rot in prison while activists and politicians grandstand, submit press releases and make photo ops?
Thinking FReepers need to ask this question.
It already does not apply to officers in the line of duty. And that has been stated and restated again and again by these guys.
“Commutation of the sentence, not a pardon.”
Agree with that statement 100%!
If it (ten year min) doesn’t apply why are these heroes still in prison?
Are you sure you want to post that link and have people go there and read it? Here are some of the responses;
“This proves one thing about Huckabee that seems to be more obvious in this election then any other in my memory. These candidates will say anything to get elected. These two men were convicted in a court of law by a jury of their peers. I know the prosecution withheld evidence that might have changed he circumstances in the case. Why didn’t their lawyers take action to get it introduced during their trial? Why did the judge not allow it? It seems the case is rip for appeal. But, for some politician to say when he gets elected, he will set two convicted felons free, because it is a popular topic, is blatant disrepect for the law. It is a cheap political trick.”
“The guys shot an unarmed man 15 times and didn’t report it, the legal status of the guy they shot is a bit irrelevant.”
“That’s what we need a POTUS who can rely on divine inspiration , and not wait on messy and confusing evidence , to announce a situation absurd . Oh pardon me .”
“Although initially I would have went along with this statement of pardoning. Looking more at the evidence I wouldn’t do that now. “Some in the media and on the Internet have tried to portray Agents Compean and Ramos as heroes but that narrative is false, Sutton said. The actions of Compean and Ramos in shooting an unarmed, fleeing suspect, destroying evidence, and engaging in a cover-up, are serious crimes. They were prosecuted to uphold the rule of law. If you want to hide something and destroy evidence then YOU know you did something wrong.”
“This case is under appeal and these 2 guys could wind up with a new trial or sentence reduction or have it thrown out on sloppy prosecution.Let the system work itself out.This is just Huck pandering....This guys gets a lot of mileage out of his caring puppy dog face.A lot of people out there fall for this crap just like the TV Evangelicals who live in mansions and drive Bentleys.”
” Like most conservatives, I was amazed at how Bush handled the situation. How could he let 2 border patrol agents go to prison for shooting an illegal alien drug smuggler?
Then I spoke to a family member and a neighbor who are both border patrol guys. Without a doubt, they both said, the guys should be in jail. They broke the rules, the lied and then covered up the incident. There was no sympathy from their co-workers.
What would happen if you freed the guys? You would be over-turning a jury conviction. You would be condoning a cover-up. You would be sending a message that violation of guildelines and the law is OK.
For Huckabee to come out and say that he wants to review the case tells you all you need to know about him. He is soft on illegal immigration and he feels that taking a stance like this will play well with anti-illegal alien crowd.”