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Ron Paul, Featuring Special Guests "The Jew Haters"
Radar Magazine ^ | 1/18/08 | Nick Curran

Posted on 01/19/2008 7:54:17 AM PST by Mr. Silverback

In the stuffy world of politics, the Ron Paul campaign has earned the reputation of being something like a raucous, freedom-loving party. A raucous, freedom-loving party with lots of paranoid bigots. So it would probably be more surprising if the band reportedly headlining RonPaulapalooza didn't have a few teeny-tiny problems with the Jews, who they feel are trying to destroy everybody. The band Poker Face enjoys churning out a hard-chargin' "freedom rock" that they developed under the influence of Boston, the Beatles, and Frank Zappa, as well as a firm conviction that the Holocaust did not happen and that the Jews are in fact the lead agents of a "Satanic World Order."

And according to a notice sent out by RonPaulaplooza organizers, you can get yourself a taste when Poker Face (along with some "lesser-known bands") rocks the big event, now tentatively scheduled for the Fourth of July holiday weekend in Morehead, Kentucky. As of post time, organizers had not responded to Radar's anxious inquiries about the possible co-appearance of a sassy little slice of pizza known to sling some fairly dope rhymes about the Ron Paul revolution.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antisemites; apaulogists; brownshirtsforpaul; endorsedbydu; goosesteppersforpaul; klankoncert; liberalsforpaul; nazirock; paulestinians; paulqaeda; paulsies; paultards; prussianblue; ronpaul; shrimpboatcaptain; stormfronthouseband; surrendernotsemites; thedailykoscandidate; whitesupremacists
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To: blackbart.223
Paul took the money.

BEFORE the stupid liberal media and conservative elites brought it to his attention that the $500 bucks was from Don Black, giving both Black and Stormfront publicity in the process. Prior to that, Paul didn't know Black from a pothole in the road.

If Soros or white supremacists are stupid enough to give me money for free as long as I don't endorse their views, I'd not only give them my checking account numbers, I'd give them my DNA as well.

151 posted on 01/19/2008 11:36:55 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: FReepapalooza
"Please read your own post. That is the most unintelligent post I have seen all day."

I missed the be in right to be listened to. Sue me. But one thing is apparent, when you have to resort to insults, your argument is weak or non existent.

152 posted on 01/19/2008 11:39:22 AM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“The hardcore, anti-war left and 9/11 Truthers are NOT supporting Paul.”
Oh really? Then I suppose Alex Jones has not endorsed Ron Paul as reported? I suppose Ron Paul has not been on the Alex Jones Show multiple times. I suppose Alex Jones is not the 911 Truther conspiracy theorist that he appears to be on his website. And I suppose this quote is not on the Alex Jones website “Jones is considered by many to be the grandfather of what has come to be known as the 9/11 Truth Movement.”


153 posted on 01/19/2008 11:41:08 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Mr. Silverback
But it doesn't mean they have a right to listened to

And who's listening to them? Gothic teen losers with multiple body piercings and tattoos who have nothing better to do? Certainly not the Paul campaign. I doubt he even knows this exists. He didn't even know the original Money Bomb (Nov 5th) was happening until a few days before that very day.

All of these events - Paul has nothing to do with them. That's the beauty of his campaign, and the power of his message.

154 posted on 01/19/2008 11:41:08 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Elaborate? I’m saying that the more I see pathetic slime-balls try to drag Ron Paul down with mud and unsubstantiated paranoid delusions, the more I’m starting to like him. He wouldn’t be striking such a nerve with paranoid mudslingers with no substantial point to make if he wasn’t getting pretty close to the target. A hurt dog will yelp. What are you yelping about?


155 posted on 01/19/2008 11:42:55 AM PST by shuckmaster
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To: Mr. Silverback
I think that when you tell the truth

Calling all of Paul's supporters Truthers and white supremacists despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary is not telling the truth. You have your opinion, but it is irrelevant to Paul supporters.

156 posted on 01/19/2008 11:46:49 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: blackbart.223

I wasn’t referring to your “missing the b”.

I was referring to your comment in general.

“the right to be listened to?”


157 posted on 01/19/2008 11:48:24 AM PST by FReepapalooza
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To: Mr. Silverback
but if there was a group of Nazis in town endorsing me as a great human being and fantastic candidate

He does not share their views! Click on any of the links in Post #107! Sheesh!

158 posted on 01/19/2008 11:49:25 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Prior to that, Paul didn't know Black from a pothole in the road."

I took a good look at Ron Paul at first because I believe in The Constitution and liberty. But he seems to attract a large number of fanatics and conspiracy nuts. Why is that?

159 posted on 01/19/2008 11:51:04 AM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: FReepapalooza
"I was referring to your comment in general."

You have the right to say what you please. I have the right to ignore you. Is this a difficult concept for you?

160 posted on 01/19/2008 11:54:11 AM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Proud2BeRight
Then I suppose Alex Jones has not endorsed Ron Paul as reported?

Who cares if he did or how many times he went on his show? Paul does not endorse Jones or these whackjobs' views! He believes in freedom for everyone but he would prefer if it's exercised prudently.

You posting from Pyongyang or something?

161 posted on 01/19/2008 11:58:49 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Paul does not endorse Jones or these whackjobs' views!"

He has a strange way showing that.

162 posted on 01/19/2008 12:00:59 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Proud2BeRight
You're the one that doesn't get it, not me. You want other people to subscribe to your narrow-minded notion of what freedom should be.

You guys talk about liberty and freedom on this board, but you guys don't want true liberty and freedom that Dr. Paul is advocating. You want that same status-quo gunk being pushed by the other GOP candidates, someone who'll protect you from the Hillary monster. There, there...it's OK Hillary won't scare you again....whatsamatter wid my widdle FWeeper huh?

163 posted on 01/19/2008 12:04:16 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: blackbart.223

“You have the right to say what you please. I have the right to ignore you.”

You actually do understand.

Your comment insinuated that the right to free speech and the right to be “listened to” were two separate things.


164 posted on 01/19/2008 12:19:27 PM PST by FReepapalooza
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To: FReepapalooza
"You actually do understand."

Thank you.

165 posted on 01/19/2008 12:25:46 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I can always tell when a Paulbearer reaches a point when they cannot defend their kook candidate or his fringe following. They revert to the “You cannot believe in liberty or freedom because you have not joined our cult” crappola. The baby talk wrap-up tells us that much about you. It was the Alex Jones facts that hurt, isn’t it?


166 posted on 01/19/2008 12:27:00 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Mr. Silverback
Telling Nazis to get bent is a violation of their freedoms.

If telling anyone to get bent were a Constitutional violation, they'd have most of us six floors under the old Atlanta federal pen in some Spanish-American War dungeon, Mr. S.
;O)

167 posted on 01/19/2008 12:35:24 PM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Mr. Silverback

“That’s not the issue. I too believe in freedom for everyone regardless of what they believe in, but if there was a group of Nazis in town endorsing me as a great human being and fantastic candidate, I wouldn’t just sit there and grin about i”

EEE sent you several links where Paul totally repudiated them.

Don’t blame me if Mr. Professional Writer can’t figure out how to play a youtube video.

I asked if you were the writer of this hitpiece. I can only guess you are since you have just been sitting there and grinning about it.


168 posted on 01/19/2008 12:38:37 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Proud2BeRight

“I can always tell when a Paulbearer reaches a point when they cannot defend their kook candidate or his fringe following. They revert to the “You cannot believe in liberty or freedom because you have not joined our cult” crappola. The baby talk wrap-up tells us that much about you. It was the Alex Jones facts that hurt, isn’t it?”

DUmbest post of the day award.

EEE didn’t even get close to saying that.

I can always tell when Paul hater reaches a point in which they can no longer defend their own words, that they have to make up strawman arguments and attack those, instead.


169 posted on 01/19/2008 12:41:10 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Ah, don’t cry, EEE. You’re the one backing the big losertarian crank.


170 posted on 01/19/2008 12:56:33 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda: enemy of civilization and humanity. Ron Paul: al Qaeda's puppet and mouthpiece.)
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To: xrp
So, you imagine that 40% of Ronaldus Maximus's support came from "paleowhatevers???" Does someone have a patent or a trademark on whatever you are smoking?

So-called paleocons, however they may define and redefine themselves, were the uncredentialed turds at the garden party when RR was POTUS. When the paleoeccentrics finally figured out that Reagan wanted nothing to do with them, they invented themselves as "paleos" and made believe that they were the conservative movement,. They never were the c onsefvative movement and they never will be the conservative movement. If there are so many paleos, how come paleoPaulie does not break 10% in any actual caucus or primary much less with the general public? Answer: Because he is an antiAmerican, antiwar, fake, phony and fraud who claims fiscal conservatism while stuffing appropriations bills with prime Galveston pork, claims to be pro-life while assuring his libertoonian friends that he won't do a thing to protect the babies federally, claims to be pro-family while assuring his libertoonian friends that he won't lift a finger federally to prevent perversions of various sorts from imitating marriage and acquiring the attendant tax benefits.

171 posted on 01/19/2008 1:32:31 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Mr. Silverback
EEE: I think Mr. Silverback was pointing out that the paleosurrenderman, Dr. Demento, had exercised his freedom of association by choosing not to reject support and money (false god of the libertoonians) from racists, bigots and anti-Semites. No one tried to take away his right to associate, must to point out that he is exercising it along with David Duke, Stormfront and some of his other supporters.

This being a new thread, its participants need to know that your previous candidate was Julie Annie, lest they take your opinions seriously.

172 posted on 01/19/2008 1:39:42 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Why did you just ping me to what you’ve described as “One of the dumbest threads on FR, ever.”?


173 posted on 01/19/2008 1:58:52 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

What did the teens SAY about Dr. Demento??? Anything juicy?


174 posted on 01/19/2008 2:02:23 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: fortheDeclaration; GovernmentIsTheProblem; Mr. Silverback
FTD and GITP: Conservatives ARE fair-minded and objective. Therefore we recognize paleoPaulie and the "paleowhatevers" as the treasonaous weasels that they are, particularly in time of war, since the paleoscum act as a fifth column. Conservatives are objective enough to label spokesthings for Al Qaeda as the Paul Qaeda, the Paulistinians or the paleopeacecreeps. Anyone alienated by these truths was neither wanted nor needed in the conservative movement.

Move along!

175 posted on 01/19/2008 2:12:48 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Mr. Silverback; Extremely Extreme Extremist

Guys like the paleoPokerface Caucus of paleoPaulie supporters killed my Uncle Bill when the nazi navy sunk the destroyer USS Buck off the coast of Salerno in WWII.


176 posted on 01/19/2008 2:20:19 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
Because he is an antiAmerican, antiwar, fake, phony and fraud who claims fiscal conservatism while stuffing appropriations bills with prime Galveston pork, claims to be pro-life while assuring his libertoonian friends that he won't do a thing to protect the babies federally, claims to be pro-family while assuring his libertoonian friends that he won't lift a finger federally to prevent perversions of various sorts from imitating marriage and acquiring the attendant tax benefits.

Yep, you're exactly what I mean. [b]Tyrannical neo-conservatives[/b] who can't read the US Constitution nor understand how to break things down on what should be enforced at the federal level vs state vs local.

177 posted on 01/19/2008 2:21:10 PM PST by xrp (RON PAUL! To HELL with neo-cons!)
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To: BlackElk
Because he is an antiAmerican, antiwar, fake, phony and fraud who claims fiscal conservatism while stuffing appropriations bills with prime Galveston pork, claims to be pro-life while assuring his libertoonian friends that he won't do a thing to protect the babies federally, claims to be pro-family while assuring his libertoonian friends that he won't lift a finger federally to prevent perversions of various sorts from imitating marriage and acquiring the attendant tax benefits.

Yep, you're exactly what I mean. Tyrannical neo-conservatives who can't read the US Constitution nor understand how to break things down on what should be enforced at the federal level vs state vs local.

178 posted on 01/19/2008 2:21:39 PM PST by xrp (RON PAUL! To HELL with neo-cons!)
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To: xrp

Actually paleoPaulie’s antiwar antiAmericanism will prove irresistible to the rabiud left and, as a turd party candidate, paleoPaulie will draw far more votes from Her Satanic Thighness or from Osama bin Obama than from the GOP nominee. Face the facts. If you guys would even CONSIDER voting for the paleotreason man, you were not going to vote for any actual conservative or actual Republican candidate. You can abandon the masquerade now.


179 posted on 01/19/2008 2:27:21 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk

Lotsa “newspeak’ you’ve got going on there.


180 posted on 01/19/2008 2:28:32 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: BlackElk
FTD and GITP: Conservatives ARE fair-minded and objective. Therefore we recognize paleoPaulie and the "paleowhatevers" as the treasonaous weasels that they are, particularly in time of war, since the paleoscum act as a fifth column. Conservatives are objective enough to label spokesthings for Al Qaeda as the Paul Qaeda, the Paulistinians or the paleopeacecreeps. Anyone alienated by these truths was neither wanted nor needed in the conservative movement. Move along!

Just more spam to add to my BlackElk 'blah, blah, blah file.

181 posted on 01/19/2008 4:34:00 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Disavowing the position a particularly noxious individual espouses and renouncing his support are two entirely distinct and separate actions.

Why is it so hard to return a check from an avowed neo-Nazi and white supremacist, or to refuse to appear on the radio program of someone who believes that the United States government orchestrated the destruction of the Twin Towers and attack on the Pentagon, or to reveal who penned those defamatory, racist, anti-Semitic newsletters if-as he claims-he is not the sole author?

182 posted on 01/19/2008 5:06:30 PM PST by Reaganite1984
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To: elhombrelibre

My problem isn’t that he has bigots supporting him. Frankly, all candidates attract bigots of some kind.

My problem is that he chooses to associate himself with them so strongly. The main act at his concert is a bunch of Holocaust deniers? His supporters don’t see why some of us have a problem with that?

If he’s not a racist, he needs to do some housecleaning.


183 posted on 01/19/2008 5:09:11 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: Mr. Silverback

“It’s time we gave this band of sideshow freaks the bum’s rush out of our party...or at least FR.”

I agree.


184 posted on 01/19/2008 6:19:43 PM PST by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
Pure sophistry.

Why is it that the first response from a Ron Paul supporter, when his candidate's character, judgment, or choices are called into question, is to attempt to belittle one of his opponents?

I've got news you, even if Fred Thompson-or Mitt Romney, or Rudy Giuliani-is guilty of some comparable ethical lapse or egregiously misguided decision it does not mitigate the impact of Paul's questionable decisions.

185 posted on 01/19/2008 7:19:18 PM PST by Reaganite1984
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To: Reaganite1984

“Why is it that the first response from a Ron Paul supporter, when his candidate’s character, judgment, or choices are called into question, is to attempt to belittle one of his opponents?”

Quoting Fred directly is belittling him? That’s an argument worthy of the Democrats.

” I’ve got news you, even if Fred Thompson-or Mitt Romney, or Rudy Giuliani-is guilty of some comparable ethical lapse or egregiously misguided decision it does not mitigate the impact of Paul’s questionable decisions.”

Paul supported Campaign Finance Reform like Fred? He is a gun grabber like Rudy? He supported gay marriage like Mitt? He supported foreign dictators like Fred? He supported sanctuary city status like Rudy? He supported socialized healthcare like Mitt? He represented abortionists like Fred? He promoted abortion like Rudy? He flip flopped on it like Mitt?

I am attacking policies. You are unfairly attacking character.


186 posted on 01/19/2008 7:26:05 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
No, what you're doing is changing the subject.

Still haven't addressed any of the valid questions about Ron Paul-much like Paul himself.

187 posted on 01/19/2008 8:14:15 PM PST by Reaganite1984
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

How exactly does telling someone you don’t want their support violate their 1st Amendment rights? I didn’t say Paul should sic the police on them.


188 posted on 01/19/2008 8:24:15 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: shuckmaster
I am opposed to the idea that a man who wants to lose a war and blame America for the actions of the headchoppers is not only a conservative, but the only real conservative in the race. I am opposed to a guy whose stupid rhetoric makes it less likely that my buddies in Iraq right now will make it home aalive. And I am in favor of deporting his saboteur kiester to Canada.

Call that yelping if you want, but your truther-backing blame-America loser is not selling with me.

189 posted on 01/19/2008 8:29:34 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Calling all of Paul's supporters Truthers and white supremacists despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary is not telling the truth.

Show me the post where I said all of Paul's supporters are Truthers and Nazis. Heck, show me where I said most of them are. I'll wait. [Jeopardy theme begins playing]

Seems like somebody is being a disingenuous poster, and his initials are EEE.

190 posted on 01/19/2008 8:31:51 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
He does not share their views! Click on any of the links in Post #107! Sheesh!

Show me a post where I said I think Ron Paul is himself a Nazi. I'll wait. [Jeopardy theme continues to play]

191 posted on 01/19/2008 8:34:55 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Proud2BeRight; Eric Blair 2084
Who cares if he did or how many times he went on his show? Paul does not endorse Jones or these whackjobs' views! He believes in freedom for everyone but he would prefer if it's exercised prudently.

In post 262 of this thread you will find a post by Eric Blair. He's listening live to the Alex Jones show during Paul's appearance. He mentions that Jones tells Paul "We are your base here." Paul does not disagree.

Imagine if Fred or Huckabee was at an appearance and someone from Planned Parenthood stood up and said, "We at Planned Parenthood are your base" and the candidate just let that sail by. What would you say about that?

192 posted on 01/19/2008 8:46:44 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: metesky
If telling anyone to get bent were a Constitutional violation, they'd have most of us six floors under the old Atlanta federal pen in some Spanish-American War dungeon, Mr. S. ;O)

My FR posts alone would be enough to convict me! :-{D>

193 posted on 01/19/2008 8:48:38 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

I’m flattered that anybody gives a crap what I said. Thank you.

Obviously, Paul is not Presidential material. Great congressman though. We need 100 more like him.


194 posted on 01/19/2008 8:51:35 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
EEE sent you several links where Paul totally repudiated them.

Sure, and Huck repudiated those push poll calls lying about Fred's record. Not good enough.

Don’t blame me if Mr. Professional Writer can’t figure out how to play a youtube video.

You seem very bothered by the fact that I do that for a living. It really makes you sound like Grandpa Simpson.

I asked if you were the writer of this hitpiece. I can only guess you are since you have just been sitting there and grinning about it.

Oh, I probably missed that because your posts are becoming pretty much spam. No, I did not write this, I am not Nick Curran, I have never worked for Radar.

195 posted on 01/19/2008 8:52:41 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: tacticalogic
Why did you just ping me to what you’ve described as “One of the dumbest threads on FR, ever.”?

I was not the one who described it as that. GovernmentIsTheProblem did so, if I recall correctly.

I thought you'd like to take in the latest Ron Paul news is all.

196 posted on 01/19/2008 8:55:42 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: BlackElk

Man, that’s gonnna leave a mark.


197 posted on 01/19/2008 8:56:09 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: BlackElk

A sharp salute for your Uncle Bill, a hero proved in liberating strife who died while helping save the world.


198 posted on 01/19/2008 8:58:15 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: tacticalogic; BlackElk
Here's my newspeak:

Ministry of Silly Explanations

becomes

MinSilEx.

I have to admit, it's great to see that no matter what comes up, you guys learn to love and believe in Blimp Brother again.

199 posted on 01/19/2008 9:01:04 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: SlapHappyPappy

Good shoot.


200 posted on 01/19/2008 9:02:08 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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