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Is this the end of Fredís run?
Nashville City Paper ^ | 1/21/08 | John Rodgers

Posted on 01/21/2008 2:14:55 AM PST by trumandogz

While other Republican presidential candidates turned their focus to Florida on Sunday, Fred Thompson turned his attention to his ailing mother and his ailing campaign.

Thompson’s run for the White House may have hit a wall after suffering a stinging setback Saturday in South Carolina, where Thompson had essentially moved his entire operation and needed a strong finish, which he did not get.

The South’s first primary saw the former Tennessee senator finish a distant third to Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, respectively.

After the loss, Thompson’s speech to his supporters left the impression that the once-looked-upon candidate to unite the Republican Party would be bowing out of the presidential race.

“I’m not sure there’s any real rationale to stay in because it hasn’t happened,” said Steve Gill, a conservative talk show host who penned a book on Thompson’s candidacy, adding that Thompson “got too far behind and dug too deep a hole” to save what once was a promising candidacy.

Gill on Sunday said Thompson’s campaign is “pretty much done,” noting that the campaign was not aggressively refuting speculation that he was dropping out.

A call to Thompson’s campaign headquarters went unanswered. A spokeswoman did not return a call on her cell phone.

Bruce Oppenheimer, a Vanderbilt University political science professor, said yesterday that the “only real purpose” of Thompson’s candidacy at this point was helping McCain, a close ally of his while the two served in the Senate.

Oppenheimer said it’s “hard to see” where Thompson can break into the upper-tier and do well on “Super Tuesday” besides his home state of Tennessee.

“I don’t know if it’s the end for him, but this is a campaign that’s on life support and it’s a real question about whether the patient can breath on his own,” Oppenheimer said.

Thompson’s strategy in South Carolina partly centered on going after Huckabee aggressively. But Thompson failed to sway nearly enough South Carolinians to dent the other southern conservative in the race.

Huckabee received more than 125,000 votes, nearly doubling Thompson’s 66,580.

Juan Williams, a National Public Radio and Fox News political analyst, said Huckabee is the southern conservative who has “some chance of going forward.”

Not so for Thompson, Williams said, noting that he did not travel immediately to Florida, which is the site of the next Republican primary.

“I think he was retreating,” Williams said Sunday morning on Fox News. “And you know, happy trails.”

Instead of heading to Florida, Thompson visited his mother in the hospital, according to media reports. She has been battling pneumonia.

If Thompson were to drop out of the race, his name would still be on the ballot when Tennessee has its presidential primary elections Feb. 5. Early voting has already begun.

A Thompson exit could spur Republican candidates who were previously willing to concede the Volunteer State to make an effort to win here.

Gill said if Thompson does indeed intend to drop out, he should do so immediately to give other GOP presidential candidates time to spread their message in Tennessee.

“If he stays in, all he does is deny Tennessee voters the chance to really have their voices heard,” Gill said.

In the South Carolina speech on Saturday, Thompson often spoke in the past tense and thanked his supporters repeatedly and ended his speech by encouraging them to “stand strong” for their conservative beliefs.

“My friends, we will always be bound by a close bond because we have traveled a very special road together for a very special purpose,” Thompson said.


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It is a bit depressing when a home state paper leaves Fred for dead and even more discouraging that his staff (while Fred is with his mother) is not reacting to the rumors of Fred's dropping out.

At this point with an ailing mother and young children at home, I could understand why Fred may want to step off the campaign trail.

On to St. Paul!

1 posted on 01/21/2008 2:14:56 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

Interesting that the naysayers are all out in Tenn this AM.

Fred edges out the front runner in SC and they say he is on life support?


2 posted on 01/21/2008 2:57:13 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
Fred edges out the front runner in SC and they say he is on life support?

It's a tough pill to swallow, but he is pretty much on life support.

What's Plan B?

3 posted on 01/21/2008 3:13:04 AM PST by tx_eggman ("they want to be judged on their intentions, not their results" - libtards official motto)
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To: trumandogz
These first few primaries don't mean diddly-squat, especially if Rudy wins Florida. If that happens, he's 2 delegates shy of jumping ahead of Romney for first place.

February 5th is the big day for the Republicans, and Missouri is the only southern state that has a winner-take-all prize. That does not bode well for Huckabee or McCain. They are cash strapped, and will have a very difficult chance of winning the large winner-take-all states.

I will support Fred as long as he is in, but I I suspect the race is going to come down to Rudy and Romney.

4 posted on 01/21/2008 3:21:02 AM PST by GOPyouth ("It's Back-to-Basics time for American Conservatism!" - Rush Limbaugh 01-04-08)
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To: trumandogz

cmon fred get out of the way for the

MIT EXPRESS...

lets all UNITE AROUND MIT....

if fred wants the vp spot.....all the better....

but we need somebody solid in the white house...

a business man who knows how to turn america back to

capitalism and a completely free market economy unhampered by confiscatory taxation....

save the republic elect someone who knows business and will champion the unleashing of american know how....not some class warfare mongering idiot.

YOUR COMMENTS ARE INVITED.


5 posted on 01/21/2008 3:22:57 AM PST by flat
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To: flat

I’ll stick with Fred, thank you.


6 posted on 01/21/2008 3:31:02 AM PST by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: trumandogz

Worst election ever...


7 posted on 01/21/2008 3:34:15 AM PST by Zeon Cowboy (Pardon Ramos and Compean NOW! // Duncan Hunter '12?)
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To: carton253

yer ridin for a fall MISSY

JOIN US FOR WHAT’S BEST FOR AMERICA....

ALL ABOARD ONTO THE ROMNEY RAILWAY TO THE NEXT PRESIDENCY OF

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.....

put down your purple kool-aid cups and hoist a cup of cheer to the
GREAT MIT!

AUUU RAH!


8 posted on 01/21/2008 4:14:12 AM PST by flat
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To: Zeon Cowboy
Worst election ever...

1932 redux.

9 posted on 01/21/2008 4:18:13 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Scrape the bottom, vote for Rodham!)
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To: tx_eggman
Plan “B” is President Hillary Rodham Clinton. The Conservative base will not turn out... we warned the party... they will not listen! No rino liberals for this Conservative.

LLS

10 posted on 01/21/2008 4:26:03 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: flat
It will NEVER happen... Conservatives will only rally to a conservative. Fred is the only one left running. Spin and attack all you want... the Conservative base has warned you party guys... you do not hear what is said. No rinos and no Liberals... get ready for 8 more years of clinton. mitt will not be able to save you... Conservatism is the only answer and your guy has all the wrong questions.

LLS

11 posted on 01/21/2008 4:29:09 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: flat

No way Jose... The “mitt express” is going full steam to liberalville... I only want to go to Conservatown. Sorry.

LLS


12 posted on 01/21/2008 4:30:26 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: trumandogz
"A call to Thompson’s campaign headquarters went unanswered. A spokeswoman did not return a call on her cell phone."

No need to add anything to that about the state of Thompson's candidacy.

If Fred stays in now, it will be for the sole purpose of helping McCain.

13 posted on 01/21/2008 4:31:59 AM PST by citizen
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To: flat
a business man who knows how to turn america back to capitalism

First of all, businessmen make very poor political leaders - completely different skill set. The government is not a business. Study the Craig Benson disaster in NH for a recent example.

Second of all, why would Mitt being a businessman help turn America back to capitalism? Big business is aggressively anticapitalist, and works constantly with government to rig the game against small business and US workers.

If the job description was Administrator of the Executive Branch, Mitt would be perfect.

But it's much, much more than that.

14 posted on 01/21/2008 4:38:18 AM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
the Conservative base has warned you party guys... you do not hear what is said. No rinos and no Liberals...

Everybody has heard what you said.

I challenged somebody, it may have been you, to show us what you've got in January 2008.

Now we know. 15% of the GOP electorate, zero independents, zero Democrats.

So, although you can wreck the Republican nominee (Unless it's McCain, who can win without you), you can't do anything else.

This nihilistic "give me what I want or I'll shoot this dog" approach to politics has gotten you zero.

Where do YOU think it's going?

15 posted on 01/21/2008 4:42:48 AM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: trumandogz

Care to speculate who Fred might endorse if he does drop out?


16 posted on 01/21/2008 4:48:51 AM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Jim Noble
Dailykos has quite a discussion featuring extensive quotations from some of our brighter lights. They think it's a hoot. They've got their own nutscratchers but they like ours better.

In the end it will cancel out. If we let them ring the bell, they will think that they are driving the train.

17 posted on 01/21/2008 5:16:02 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: trumandogz

Fred must win. He’s the only one telling the truth.

The question about the rest of the candidates is this: since the use of deception is the only way they can get votes, how do they feel about themselves when they go to sleep at night?

Especially the ones who claim to be Christian, and the ones endorsed by the pro-atheist NEA (that’s you, Huckabee).

And what about the candidates claiming to support the military? Who were they supporting when they railed against Guantanamo (that’s you, McCain) or when they degraded our President and our Secretary of Defense during a time of war, thus emboldening our enemy and likely causing more troop deaths (that’s you McCain).

How can we think of McCain as anything but a traitor?


18 posted on 01/21/2008 5:20:22 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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To: trumandogz

A vote for anyone but Fred is a vote for Hillary or Obama, which translates into a vote for terrorists.


19 posted on 01/21/2008 5:22:21 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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To: trumandogz

How do you tell the difference between John McCain and a jihad terrorist?

McCain is the one more likely to explode into a blind rage.


20 posted on 01/21/2008 5:24:52 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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To: Jim Noble
Jim, America is going to get a clinton as President... that is where we are going... and when REAL RONALD REAGAN CONSERVATIVES are barked at like you are barking... the RINO Party is going straight to hell. America may too if you guys do not wise up. NO liberal Republican can win in November... and no matter how you spin it... and that is all that you do... NO Republican can WIN without the 35% of the base that are Reagan Conservatives. These are the facts... listen to Rush today... he will tell you the exact same thing... he stated the exact same thing last Friday. You will not listen... but you will learn come November! Bank on it!

LLS

21 posted on 01/21/2008 5:25:49 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: reasonisfaith

“How can we think of McCain as anything but a traitor?”

....ummm, I think of him as a Manchurian candidate.........

not too much better, but at least he’d be locked in a loony bin, instead of prison, or worse............


22 posted on 01/21/2008 5:25:54 AM PST by fishtank (Fenced BORDERS, English LANGUAGE, Patriotic CULTURE: A good plan.)
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To: trumandogz

How do you tell the difference between Huckabee and a closet atheist?

-Huckabee is more politically active.


23 posted on 01/21/2008 5:27:57 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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To: trumandogz
I would love to see him stick with it until at least until Super Tuesday, but this weekend was not good news for him or us Fred Heads. Not that he did not come in first, we didn’t expect he would - but because nobody was talking about him on the Sunday news programs. I didn’t here his name mentioned even once. They talked about Mitt, McCain, Huckabee, Paul, and even Rudy, and he did even worse than Fred did, but it was like they all got the same memo which said don’t talk about Fred.
24 posted on 01/21/2008 5:32:35 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: LibLieSlayer
NO Republican can WIN without the 35% of the base that are Reagan Conservatives

Even IF the people you call "Reagan conservatives" were 35% of the GOP base, that's not enough votes to drive the bus.

But your guys can't break 15% in Republican primaries.

In terms of the November election, apart from kamikaze attacks on the GOP, what can you do?

You can't expect the 85% of the party that disagrees with you to give you everything you want by threatening them with Democrats.

25 posted on 01/21/2008 5:43:34 AM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: All

Interesting how the red pickup is gone from here:

http://www.fred08.com/

and the “thankyou South Carolina” video wasn’t even posted on his website but some blog site.


26 posted on 01/21/2008 5:46:15 AM PST by aj7360
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To: fishtank

“How can we think of McCain as anything but a traitor?”

The GOP does not have one candidate that has a stainless record. We can find fault in each one in some past legislative action they made or liberal cause they once supported - BUT McCain time and time again has been an obstical the Replublican Party had to overcome when trying to get something passed. From the time he voted against the Bush Tax cuts to times he sided with democrats like Hillary Clinton on voting against a Bush appoitments he has shown his true colors. It’s like he gets off on being that obstical.


27 posted on 01/21/2008 5:51:45 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: flat
save the republic elect someone who knows business and will champion the unleashing of american know how....not some class warfare mongering idiot.

YOUR COMMENTS ARE INVITED.

Flat, the last work in your screed, prior to your invitation to comment, tells me all I need to know

Idiot

28 posted on 01/21/2008 6:10:45 AM PST by tx_eggman ("they want to be judged on their intentions, not their results" - libtards official motto)
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To: LibLieSlayer
The Conservative base will not turn out... we warned the party... they will not listen! No rino liberals for this Conservative.

One would think that they would have gotten the hint in the Mid-Term elections of '06. Smacks somewhat of arrogance on the part of the RNC.

29 posted on 01/21/2008 6:16:27 AM PST by misharu (US Congress = children without adult supervision)
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To: trumandogz
“My friends, we will always be bound by a close bond because we have traveled a very special road together for a very special purpose,”

Hmmmmm a glass of warm milk and a long nap - that's the ticket.

30 posted on 01/21/2008 6:37:38 AM PST by ninonitti
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To: Jim Noble
You figures are incorrect. 2006 proves that you are full of bunk... we lost because some people said... "no... I will not vote for a party of liberals pushing big government and amnesty". You are suffering from the rino disease of “titanium cranium” and a distinct deficit of reasoning. Ignore and minimize us all that you want... but you also prove that you are no conservative... because you are willing and eager to write us off. You do so at the peril of the party and of America. Time will prove the folly of your way.

LLS

31 posted on 01/21/2008 6:43:41 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: misharu
Just check Jim Noble’s responses to me... they don’t care about us because they think that there are not enough of us Reagan Conservatives to matter. They can afford to pi$$ away 35% of the vote... not needed... they have enough rinos, liberals and independents to win in November. WE DO NOT MATTER. 2006... as you said... proves that their contention is flawed.

LLS

32 posted on 01/21/2008 6:54:47 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: Jim Noble
In terms of the November election, apart from kamikaze attacks on the GOP, what can you do?

Nobody is planning kamikaze attacks on the GOP, and it is disingenuous for you to make a remark like that. The problem is that there is no real difference between a liberal Republican and a liberal democrat. We aren't married to the party. We believe in a philosophy rather than a party, and if neither party believes what we do, why should we support either? The GOP needs us in the general election. If they run a liberal or a moderate, we don't need them. It isn't an attack... it is about supporting those things we believe, and not voting for people who work against our interests... in this case, our liberty.

I will likely vote for whoever the GOP runs rather than sit out, since the dems are so bad for the country. But some won't. I don't blame them. It isn't all about the "party," you know. Some of us really believe it matters who we have running the government.

Go be a party hack if you want. I'll be a conservative and keep trying to change minds with something more substantial than a bandwagon/pep rally approach.

33 posted on 01/21/2008 6:56:13 AM PST by TN4Liberty (Fred Thompson - the candidate for grownups.)
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To: trumandogz

The Mitt-Twits only wish it were so.


34 posted on 01/21/2008 7:05:49 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: flat

Well, aren’t you an idiot.


35 posted on 01/21/2008 7:06:34 AM PST by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: TN4Liberty
Go be a party hack if you want

I'm not a Republican.

36 posted on 01/21/2008 7:07:32 AM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: flat

LOL.

You forgot:

1. Causing a 1 state recession in MA.

2. Hirer taxes (er, “fees”) in MA.

3. Socialized medicine with free abortions for all.

And let’s not forget he multi-billion auto-worker-union-welfare program proposed in Michigan.

Yeah, THAT’s conservative.


37 posted on 01/21/2008 7:11:08 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (This evangelical Christian is not fooled by Jimmah Carter Huckabee.)
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To: LibLieSlayer; misharu
Just check Jim Noble’s responses to me... they don’t care about us because they think that there are not enough of us Reagan Conservatives to matter. They can afford to pi$$ away 35% of the vote

Well, I sure may be wrong, but don't misquote me.

I voted for Ronald Reagan twice. I think I have a good grasp of what his majorities were built on.

You are using the term "Reagan conservative" to describe a small faction OF THE MINORITY PARTY.

I've been saying for months that, once we started voting, you could not back up your talk with votes, and it looks like I'm right.

I don't know if the Reagan coalition, which arose out of the peculiar circumstances of the 1970s, can be rebuilt.

But it can't be rebuilt by big talk, threats, and bluster.

You don't have the votes, WITHIN THE GOP, to get what you want.

It has nothing to do with the eventual nominee not needing your votes - of course he will need your votes.

But you are too weak and too divided to choose the nominee, and that's not my fault, it's yours.

38 posted on 01/21/2008 7:15:16 AM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: NavyCanDo
A scenario to contemplate:

McCain wins, gets into the white house.

July 2009, it becomes obvious he is losing his sanity.
(Spits on a reporter, slaps his wife, stabs Harry Reid with a pen, urinates in the Rose Garden. Refuses to resign.)

Republicans start the impeachment process, August 2009.

Mitt Romney is his VP, desperately pleading for impeachment.

Question. Do Democrats in the house and senate block their efforts?

39 posted on 01/21/2008 7:16:16 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Jim Noble; flat
First of all, businessmen make very poor political leaders - completely different skill set. The government is not a business. Study the Craig Benson disaster in NH for a recent example.

The most bizarre thing about Craig Benson's flop was that it was mostly about alienating his own friends and supporters. He wasn't brought down by his enemies. He had this close circle of allies and wouldn't let anyone else into the circle even if they wanted to be allies, too. He was fiercely loyal to his inner circle and treated the people outside the circle who liked him like they were idiots. Craig Benson was on a fast track to running for president this year and totally blew it. He wasn't even a bad governor. He just was really bad at the people side of politics.

40 posted on 01/21/2008 7:17:37 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

I’m from NH originally, and I had only heard that it was corruption (presumably for that tight circle of ‘cronies’) that brought Benson down. Is this not so?


41 posted on 01/21/2008 7:19:44 AM PST by 9YearLurker (Fred just keeps looking better and better)
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To: NavyCanDo
They talked about Mitt, McCain, Huckabee, Paul, and even Rudy, and he did even worse than Fred did, but it was like they all got the same memo which said don’t talk about Fred.

Rudy only gets a free pass for now because he has said that FL is his line in the sand, not SC. I promise the heat on Rudy will be very intense if he loses FL.

42 posted on 01/21/2008 7:19:46 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
He just was really bad at the people side of politics.

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

43 posted on 01/21/2008 7:20:56 AM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: flat

‘lets all UNITE AROUND MIT....”

Stick it. It’s time the Dems put their label of their own crap and not under some squishy GOP hack.


44 posted on 01/21/2008 7:23:59 AM PST by Dead Dog (Classic Liberalism..AT ALL COSTS)
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To: Jim Noble

Jimbo honey, why are you dragging me into your pi$$ing contest with LLL? I was only pointing out that the base sat back in 2006 as a warning to the RNC and they did not listen. I will vote in my primary for who I believe represents MY core beliefs and if that guy ain’t on the ballot in November, I will hold my nose and vote for the Republican because I WON’T waste my vote on a Democrat.


45 posted on 01/21/2008 7:24:41 AM PST by misharu (US Congress = children without adult supervision)
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To: flat

Um, no...


46 posted on 01/21/2008 7:28:31 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Mike Huckabee, Tithing via Taxation, the Christian Democrat way...)
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To: misharu
Jimbo honey, why are you dragging me into your pi$$ing contest with LLL?

Sorry, LLS dragged you in by misquoting me in a reply to you.

I won't ping you again.

47 posted on 01/21/2008 7:28:55 AM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: 9YearLurker
I’m from NH originally, and I had only heard that it was corruption (presumably for that tight circle of ‘cronies’) that brought Benson down. Is this not so?

The corruption thing was overblown by the media. The real reason he lost is that the people who knew it was overblown didn't rally around him because he treated those supporters like crap. It wasn't even necessary to rally around him, even. He pissed off Republicans in the legislature and pissed off his supporters that do the campaigning legwork, because of who knows why-- self-destructive streak, incompetence, whatever.

He went from winning in a landslide (the race was called practically in record time) to losing in a landslide. You don't get a big swing like that unless the governor is actually the corrupt person or the foundation of his political operation crashes and burns, and the latter is what happened.

48 posted on 01/21/2008 7:31:09 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: trumandogz

Then again, letting the other candidates burn out & drop out first might be a good idea. Huckabee running out of cash, McCain wins SC but likely nowhere else, likewise others ... After all the flash and wow wears down, a solid no-games no-fluff conservative emerges and wins.

The primary season started too early. Maybe Fred realized that, and is spinning it to his advantage.

And yes, an ailing mother is a good reason to not race on to the next campaign stop to thrill people who are already going to vote for him.


49 posted on 01/21/2008 7:34:35 AM PST by ctdonath2 (GWB wept for those who suffer. HRC wept for herself.)
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To: TN4Liberty
Then you better be prepared for a long cold winter, because there is no Reaganesque Republican waiting in the wings.

Reagan was a man of his time and no other. You cannot bring back the past, you can only move forward. With an attitude like yours and your fellow Luddites, you are condemning all Americans to an unbroken run of Democrat presidents and leadership.

Go ahead and sit this one out, then when Ronald Reagan doesn't rise from the grave, you can sit out the 2012 elections as well. In the meantime, the SCOTUS will be returned to a full blown extention of the Democrat party and our rights will be gradually taken away as the Justices legislate from the bench.

Name a single Conservative out there who has the stature, compelling message, and electability that Ronald Reagan had. It's obvious the Fred hasn't got the drive to win and he is, afterall, a watered down Conservative.

All of you who subscribe to this notion of "teaching the Republican Party a lesson" are idiots. If you aren't part of the solution, then you are part of the problem. I would rather have a Liberal Republican in the White House than any of the hard-core socialists running in the Democrat Party.

Go ahead and sit this one out...I hope you enjoy living the next several decades in your chosen alternative, a European style socialist paradise. Enjoy your socialized medicine, your 70% tax burden, and your lower standard of living. You will have earned it at least as much as those voting for the Democrat candidate.
50 posted on 01/21/2008 7:39:05 AM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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