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Goodbye Rudy, Tuesday (Giuliani a goner--tawdry personal life a turnoff)
NY TIMES ^ | January 23, 2008 | Timothy Egan

Posted on 01/25/2008 5:08:53 PM PST by Liz

For 50 days, Giuliani had the Sunshine State nearly to himself........he’s sucked up to Miami's Cuban vote, pandered in Cape Canaveral about the space program, tried to scare retirees in South Florida. There he is riding in a fire truck in a Miami parade, trailed by angry firefighters who blame him for multiple failures when NY was attacked.......in the Panhandle, he's the consummate Yankees fan trying to look down-home on the Redneck Riviera.

Yet, the more they see of Giuliani, the more his poll numbers tank...... Rudy’s campaign is in meltdown. Amazing how much voters bring up his tawdry personal life. They laugh about Rudy in drag and Rudy when he lived with a gay couple.....in a state full of mothers who live for phone calls from long-distance adult children, there’s one thing they can’t abide – Rudy’s wreck of a family life......people roll their eyes over the story of how Giuliani’s third wife picked him up in a cigar bar while he was still married to the second Mrs. Hizzoner.

I heard no end of condemnation over the mayor’s estrangement from his two children. He spent more than anyone but Mitt Romney in NH, and finished a distant fourth. And as Michael Powell and Russ Buettner documented in a remarkable piece in the Times earlier this week, Giuliani ruled by crushing anyone who dared to cross him.

(Excerpt) Read more at egan.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: fl2008; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; ihaterudy; ihaterudyihaterudy; liberalgiuliani; liberalrudy; lizcrapsherself; lizgonenuts; lizpeesherselfagain; lizspewsagain; lizspewsbile; lizunhinged; rinogiuliani; rinorudy; rudy
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FREEPER STOCKTRADER SAID IT BETTER THAN ANYBODY: Rudy's “campaign” will go down as one of the most inept in modern history. If he loses Florida--where he has virtually LIVED for the last few months--his campaign will have exceeded Howard Dean's when it comes to ineptitude (and Rudy didn't even have to scream. It will be the mismanagement standard.....and 'model'.....for all future "how-NOT-to-run-a-campaign" strategies. After all, how many candidates have EVER blown a lead as big as the one he had??

ROTFL----love, love, love it----that analysis has gotta go into the political history books. Man, Rooty got piped but good.

Giuliani worships at the Church of Whatever Works For Me. He has no moral center, he has no spiritual fidelity, and is completely without political loyalty. Says he's "conservative" but sucked up to liberals, sought Liberal backing, and employed numerous Liberals as Mayor/candidate. He worships abortion, gay rights, and gun grabbing----all completly against Republican principles.

Giuliani's most fervent wish is to religiously cleanse the party and dump so/cals off the party lifeboat. Rudy can get on his knees and hail Beelzebub dawn til dusk-----that ain't gonna happen.

1 posted on 01/25/2008 5:08:56 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

I’d like to see anyone at the NYT write an article about Hillary with this kind of disdain. I won’t hold my breath.


2 posted on 01/25/2008 5:11:37 PM PST by CASchack
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To: Liz

Rudy puts Rudy first.


3 posted on 01/25/2008 5:11:38 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Liz
in the Panhandle, he's the consummate Yankees fan trying to look down-home on the Redneck Riviera.

Well, the Slimes had better brace itself for a few interesting letters to the editor from that region...

4 posted on 01/25/2008 5:13:32 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: rfp1234

Doubt it. That’s what the people who live/vacation there call it.


5 posted on 01/25/2008 5:17:07 PM PST by BunkDetector
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To: Liz
"Yet, the more they see of him here, the more his poll numbers tank. "

Liz, you and I were predicting this months ago!

6 posted on 01/25/2008 5:17:39 PM PST by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Liz

“We’ve gotta admit the NYT came up with a great headline for this article.”
Mick and Keith


7 posted on 01/25/2008 5:19:03 PM PST by BunkDetector
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To: rfp1234

That’s the common name, even for locals.


8 posted on 01/25/2008 5:19:18 PM PST by Petronski (I didn't leave the GOP. The GOP left me.)
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To: CASchack

Wont happen and that is why the irrelevent picture with Rezco is getting so much attention. It deflects for all her misdeads. I wish some of the anti rudy crew would use the same venom on the rats.


9 posted on 01/25/2008 5:19:58 PM PST by alisasny (RIP Lt. Kevin “Kojak” Davis BLUE ANGELS #6 THANKYOU!!)
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To: Liz

Rudy has moral problems, but I would let him find Osama and redeem himself.


10 posted on 01/25/2008 5:21:06 PM PST by Romneyfor President2008 (I'm a Mitt Man who loves the Mittens!)
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To: Liz
Giuliani worships at the Church of Whatever Works For Me. He has no moral center, he has no spiritual fidelity, and is completely without political loyalty. Says he's "conservative" but sucked up to liberals,

The name Giuliani is not the only one that fits your description. I will be glad to see one more liberal bite the dust though.

11 posted on 01/25/2008 5:21:33 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Liz
I think Rudy's biggest problem is Rudy's ego. The fact that he could not handle loses in the early states kept him from competing there.
That killed his chances.
12 posted on 01/25/2008 5:22:08 PM PST by elizabetty ("Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." .Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: CASchack
I’d like to see anyone at the NYT write an article about Hillary with this kind of disdain.

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13 posted on 01/25/2008 5:24:35 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Liz

I’m really curious to see how Rudy’s bet it all on Florida strategy plays out. I don’t think he’s in this race much longer.


14 posted on 01/25/2008 5:25:16 PM PST by NoCountryForLiberals
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To: Liz

The NYT’s venom was in clear evidence on their opinion page today. This article just fills in the gaps. The only people that hate Giuliani more than the NYT and the MSM can be found on FR.


15 posted on 01/25/2008 5:28:19 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: Liz
Take the Oath of Office in drag, wouldn’t put it past him...
16 posted on 01/25/2008 5:29:24 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Liz
FTA:

"Rudy’s campaign is in meltdown. Amazing how much voters bring up his tawdry personal life."

And, it is amazing to me how a news source can continue to bad-mouth everyone but Bill and Hill. What about THEIR tawdry personal life, NYT? (The dirt is so much deeper, there!)

17 posted on 01/25/2008 5:33:41 PM PST by yorkie
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To: Liz

Rudy needs to switch to the Rat party. He’d fit right in.


18 posted on 01/25/2008 5:35:57 PM PST by Seruzawa
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To: martin_fierro

LOL! I think I’ve finally found a bumper sticker that I’d be willing to display.


19 posted on 01/25/2008 5:38:58 PM PST by CASchack
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To: Liz

Remember when all the rudybots flooded FR with support saying he is the only one who can beat the beast.Most of us here said that conservatives wont support him and it sure seems that we are right about that.


20 posted on 01/25/2008 5:40:33 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: TommyDale

If only he had campaigned in his pink spangled number—things mighta been different (titter).


21 posted on 01/25/2008 5:42:23 PM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: shrinkermd
Rudy isn't all bad. The New York Times hates him. He is a competent economic manager. And he doesn't p*ss on conservatives with nearly the enthusiasm that McCain and Huckabee do.
22 posted on 01/25/2008 5:42:38 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Liz

I heard Mark Steyn put it very well the other day. To paraphrase, “Rudy told us he was the only candidate who could unite the party and win against Hillary at the national level. Then he said he wasn’t going to run in Iowa because it was a distraction, then he said he wasn’t going to campaign in New Hampshire because he wanted to focus on Florida, then he said he wasn’t going to campaign in South Carolina because it was full of the religious right, then he said he wouldn’t campaign in Nevada because it was full of Mormons. So how is he the guy who can unite the party?”


23 posted on 01/25/2008 5:45:05 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: All

......as Michael Powell and Russ Buettner documented in a remarkable piece in the Times earlier this week, Giuliani ruled by crushing anyone who dared to cross him......

The Long Run; In Matters Big and Small, Crossing Giuliani Had Price

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1959752/posts


24 posted on 01/25/2008 5:46:39 PM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz
Rudy’s campaign is in meltdown. Amazing how much voters bring up his tawdry personal life. They laugh about Rudy in drag and Rudy when he lived with a gay couple.....in a state full of mothers who live for phone calls from long-distance adult children, there’s one thing they can’t abide – Rudy’s wreck of a family life......people roll their eyes over the story of how Giuliani’s third wife picked him up in a cigar bar while he was still married to the second Mrs. Hizzoner.

ATTENTION RootyTooters: I hate to say I tolja' so...

25 posted on 01/25/2008 5:47:11 PM PST by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more. Keyes '08)
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To: Liz; TommyDale

Rooty tooty fresh and frooty - ran for President and they kicked his booty.


26 posted on 01/25/2008 5:47:37 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: CASchack
Headline should more properly be:

GOODBYE,TIMES (SLIMES): NEWSPAPER COULD NOT EVEN BE EFFECTIVE FISHWRAP.

27 posted on 01/25/2008 5:51:08 PM PST by tenthirteen
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To: Vigilanteman
And he doesn't p*ss on conservatives with nearly the enthusiasm that McCain and Huckabee do.

Exactly. I'd take him any day over Huckabee or McCain. At least Rudy is upfront with where he stands, and although I disagree with him, at least I can believe him.

Huckabee and McCain are both wolves in sheep's clothing and are both far more liberal than Rudy is!

28 posted on 01/25/2008 5:52:40 PM PST by jan in Colorado ("It's easier to believe a lie one hears 1,000 times than to believe a fact that one has never heard)
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To: pepsi_junkie
Giuliani's baffle-gab. Says one thing--does another.

Giuliani recently announced his top staffers are working gratis---b/c Giuliani wants voters to think he managed to spend all his campaign money without having actually competed in any of the early primary/caucus states.

The truth is that Rudy spent all his money because he HAS competed in all those states, and lost dismally. The number of times Rooty went to New Hampshire to campaign was second only to Romney.

Rudy just CLAIMS he hasn't been competing because the results show he is a bigtime loser, rejected by primary/caucus voters.

Although Giuliani talks big, and tries to cast himself as a warrior/hero, he cuts and runs when he feels competitive pressure. He chickened out of the Senate race vs. Hillary. More recently, he cut and run in Iowa, New Hampshire, Michigan, and now South Carolina.

He's the gutless wonder....a talker, not a doer. He wins Florida or loses whatever credibility he has left (not much).

29 posted on 01/25/2008 5:53:05 PM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz

I thank God Almighty, twits like you weren't around to screech and point fingers at the moral trangressions of many of America's founding fathers and for those who would follow in their trail.
Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Hamilton and yes Giuliani (who took on the Mafia and leaded the clean up NYC) managed to acheive and accomplish where many would have failed.
All your diatribes have the impact of a flea bite on the behind of a horse's posterior in the preceding picture.

30 posted on 01/25/2008 5:54:40 PM PST by red flanker
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To: elizabetty
A self-absorbed runt with a foul stunted mind---Giuliani does nothing unless it serves his ambitions. It's too bad 9/11 gave this hunchbacked dwarf the opportunity to strut on the public stage.

Can voters honestly say Giuliani will be a peacemaker?

Giuliani seems the least likely of all the candidates to be a level-headed negotiator to calm world tensions. One can only ponder how many US allies will be alienated (and enemies inflamed) by this egomaniac's compulsion to strut on the global stage.

Rudy’s one-trick “vote for me and I’ll protect you from the terrorists” is s-t-a-le.

He's built his campaign around the only skill he has---cleaning up after bombings. Robot Rooty is programmed for problems---to repeat 9/11 over and over. It's the only thing he's campaigned on.

Rooty needs chaos to thrive. Reflexively 9/11---he manages to sneak 9/11 into every sentence he utters. As the shortest candidate, and the only lisper, 9/11 gave him the opportunity to fulfill a deep psychological need----to strut around pretending he's somebody.

31 posted on 01/25/2008 5:55:26 PM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Seruzawa
Rudy needs to switch to the Rat party. He’d fit right in.

How does his tax cut proposal, his vow to nominate Justices like Scalia, his stance on the WOT, and his support of the DC appellate decison on guns fit in?

32 posted on 01/25/2008 5:56:54 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: imahawk
Most of us here said that conservatives wont support him and it sure seems that we are right about that.

Yet those same "conservatives" are supporting the other gun grabbing, baby killing Northeastern RINO... Go figger.

33 posted on 01/25/2008 5:57:03 PM PST by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more. Keyes '08)
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To: Liz

He also chickened out in running against Hillary in 2000 and 2006.


34 posted on 01/25/2008 5:59:56 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Liz

35 posted on 01/25/2008 6:01:32 PM PST by monkapotamus
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To: BunkDetector; Petronski

That’s good to know, thanks; I may eventually need to retire outside of Kaliforneeeeea, you never know...


36 posted on 01/25/2008 6:01:44 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: Liz

I actually feel sorry for him. Whoever helped strategize his campaign plan really messed up.


37 posted on 01/25/2008 6:03:12 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: roamer_1

ATTENTION RootyTooters: I hate to say I tolja’ so.......

But I did tolja’ so..........LOL.


38 posted on 01/25/2008 6:09:28 PM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: roamer_1

What percentage of your posts would you say include the phrases “gun grabbing” or “baby killing?”

Furthermore, has it occurred to you how incredibly misleading those phrases are as you attempt to attribute them to Romney?


39 posted on 01/25/2008 6:10:18 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: Vigilanteman
Here's the deal on his so-called "cancer" scare.

FReeper calcowgirl did the research; on Sept 2007 she posted her findings:

Rudy quit the race, announcing he had cancer, but he was up and working almost immediately after quitting the Senate race. To those playin' violins about his debilitating cancer and the chemo treatment, here are excerpts from published news reports that tell the real story:

Rudy had radioactive seed implantation on September 15 and was up on his feet in one day. There was no chemo.

He missed a day or two of work and within a week he had marched in a parade, presided over a town hall-style meeting, gone on the stump for Lazio, and conducted daily press conferences, including one pushing a $1 Billion taxpayer-subsidized stadium in Manhattan's West Side after holding meetings with both the Yankees and Jets owners that week.

In May 2000 he dropped out a mere 11 days before the State Convention where he was to be nominated leaving the GOP high and dry (with no other choice but to recruit Lazio).

His doctors said they thought campaigning was perfectly within his physical capabilities; if he started treatment right way, he would have recovered and been "full speed" by the time the campaign normally kicked in. Instead, he delayed that procedure until September.

Rudy dropped out because a) he figured he was going to get his arse whooped, and, b) he had organized several global businesses and a global law firm that were earning him a million dollars per month.

40 posted on 01/25/2008 6:11:15 PM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: monkapotamus

Down for the count-—LOL.


41 posted on 01/25/2008 6:12:29 PM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz
While I am a Romney supporter, I suggest that you re-read your posts over the last year, and consider how you present yourself.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

42 posted on 01/25/2008 6:13:44 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: BunkDetector
“We’ve gotta admit the NYT came up with a great headline for this article.”
Mick and Keith

Gotta agree with Mick and Keith there. I just sat and admired the headline for a few minutes before I could get past it to read the article.

43 posted on 01/25/2008 6:16:03 PM PST by lonevoice (It's always "Apologize to a Muslim Hour"...somewhere)
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To: Miss Marple

diatribes


44 posted on 01/25/2008 6:16:33 PM PST by prognostigaator
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To: Miss Marple

diatribes


45 posted on 01/25/2008 6:16:39 PM PST by prognostigaator
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To: Liz

Tired old tired old. Digest of old FR threads. Yawn.


46 posted on 01/25/2008 6:17:41 PM PST by firebrand
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To: BunkDetector
Doubt it. That’s what the people who live/vacation there call it.

...and have been for thirty years.

47 posted on 01/25/2008 6:18:52 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Liz

Giuliani’s campaign advisers are fools. They thought Giuliani could use his 9-11 hero status to launch him to the nomination without any retail politics. It turns out that there are no “bye” weeks in the political playoffs. The lesson to be learned here is that you have to show up to play in order to win. For that, I will give Mitt Romney credit for.


48 posted on 01/25/2008 6:24:02 PM PST by Kuksool
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To: flintsilver7
What percentage of your posts would you say include the phrases “gun grabbing” or “baby killing?”

Why, does it matter?

Furthermore, has it occurred to you how incredibly misleading those phrases are as you attempt to attribute them to Romney?

Not misleading in the least.

His coincidental conversion on pro-life issues is too conveniently close to his presidential run. Maybe I will believe him if he retains those views a few years after he loses the election.

His gun record is self evident.

49 posted on 01/25/2008 6:24:42 PM PST by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more. Keyes '08)
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To: shrinkermd

He’s second only to McCain in being a RINO. I would rather have the democrat than either of them.


50 posted on 01/25/2008 6:26:31 PM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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