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1 posted on 01/27/2008 7:11:09 AM PST by jdm
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Eventually, state run systems fall back to the bread line model, as they did in the Soviet Union, and someone has to start making choices about who gets the bread.

Reminds me of stories that Soviet citizens would see a line and get in it, not even knowing what for, figuring it must be worth it.

2 posted on 01/27/2008 7:15:20 AM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Checkmate Cruiser")
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The “useless eaters” example comes to mind.


3 posted on 01/27/2008 7:16:04 AM PST by Ron in Acreage (Romney/Watts 2008)
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I want to see the look on an American’s face when they are told, as they are in Canada or ENgland:

“I’m sorry Ma’am, but you missed your appointment. The next opening we have is Dec 14th 2008 at 3 pm. Should I put you down?”


4 posted on 01/27/2008 7:19:15 AM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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...Britain's National Health Service show that a significant percentage of providers want government to cut off benefits to the elderly, the obese, smokers, and others

...After all, the taxpayer has to foot the bill for these procedures and these patients. Why should some taxpayers have to subsidize bad behavior?

There you have it. Under the single-payer system, Aging falls under the category of Bad Behavior.

6 posted on 01/27/2008 8:00:49 AM PST by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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when someone advocates government run health care, i suggest bto them that they go look at a government run housing projects or the DMV, and then get back to me.


7 posted on 01/27/2008 8:01:45 AM PST by wny
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Nanny Ping


8 posted on 01/27/2008 8:23:05 AM PST by libertarian27 (Land of the Fee, Home of the Shamed)
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"Why should some taxpayers have to subsidize bad behavior?"

Because some diseases are PC (like AIDS from homosexual sex) and some are not (like lung cancer from smoking.) The gov't will tell us which diseases liberals approve and are willing to spend $ on, and which ones will get no care and therefore, die.

10 posted on 01/27/2008 8:37:23 AM PST by penowa
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To: jdm; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; Mears; ...

Nanny State Ping.........

They act as if the elderly, smokers, and obese are NOT taxpayers.............


11 posted on 01/27/2008 8:45:00 AM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: jdm

Makes you wonder about the one presidential candidate who implemented socialized healthcare in his own state.


13 posted on 01/27/2008 9:02:49 AM PST by Doohickey (Giuliani: Brokeback Republican)
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A couple of excellent blogs by doctors working in England’s National Health Service.

http://www.drrant.net/

http://nhsblogdoc.blogspot.com/

NHS’s mortatlity rates for treatable conditions exceed those for most of Europe, and, interestingly enough, the systems for most of Europe are less socialistic.


15 posted on 01/27/2008 9:45:01 AM PST by ArmstedFragg
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He writes this piece but has endorsed Mitt Romney...pfft..What he rails against he supports.

U.S. Army Retired


17 posted on 01/27/2008 9:50:25 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (REAGAN: "..party..must represent certain fundamental beliefs [not] compromised..[for] expediency")
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no body of facts will be unanswered by the left, which has never been accountable to facts.

the only argument against government run healthcare is that it is not the function of government to do for people what they can and should do for themselves.

22 posted on 01/27/2008 11:43:55 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (what would the founders do?)
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We’re going to deal with the same issue here. Even group insurance will figure out ways to not treat “unacceptables,” or charge them more.


23 posted on 01/27/2008 3:47:31 PM PST by valkyrieanne
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Bump


25 posted on 01/27/2008 3:54:46 PM PST by Purdue Pete
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Pat Buchanan covered some of this stuff in his book “Death of the West.”

Government controlled health care is a nightmare.


26 posted on 01/27/2008 3:55:56 PM PST by Radix (If your outgo exceeds your income, your upkeep will be your downfall.)
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; Lynne; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; ...
Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.


33 posted on 01/28/2008 6:06:35 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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