Skip to comments.Smith & Wesson Receives Order from Colorado State Patrol
Posted on 01/29/2008 9:01:28 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation , parent company of Smith & Wesson Corp., the legendary 156-year old company in the global business of safety, security, protection and sport, announced today that it has received an order from the Colorado State Patrol for 850 of the company's Military & Police (M&P) Series of advanced-design polymer pistols. The Smith & Wesson M&P40, chambered in .40 S&W, will be issued to each officer of the Colorado State Patrol to replace early-model Smith & Wesson pistols that have served as the primary duty firearms for the department.
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OK, I have some of the offending ammunition at hand, now.
It’s in a black box, with a picture of a wolf on it. Labeled “Wolf Performance Ammunition”, 15gr FMJ.
The cases are metallic grey in appearance, smooth but do not feel “slick” the way brass or nickel-plated cases do (to me). If there’s any lacquer, it’s very thin. Seems to be some sort of coating, though.
I purchased it within the last two years.
They are really nice young ladies. And in many cases they learn to shoot well quickly. They have less ego and do it like you tell them to. Of course, the general rule is that these college kids are sharp. I mean very. They pick it up quick and we make sure to give them a solid grasp of the fundamentals. Natural point of aim, BRASS all that stuff. This just isn’t play time at the range. We are careful to have plenty of members up to give them one on one attention in the early stages to stay safe. It also turns out that an 18 year olds eyesight beats the bejezus out of that of us older guys. Oh well.
Yep, sounds like the newer polymer coated ammo.
Just to add, I’ve shot better than 10,000 rounds of the Wolf 230gr. Poly ammo through my 45’s and maybe half that of the 115gr. through my 9mm’s without issue.
I have a friend whose nine year old son shoots a Spingfield XD 9mm in competition. And he doesn’t place last either!
Apropos of nothing in particular, why is everyone jumping all over 9mm Parabellum when an American chambering, .38 Super, was an IPSC fave for years, performs about the same as 9mm or a little better (closer to .40 S&W), and "should" be suitable for your wife and you both?
I'm no expert, I'm just asking. And yes, I understand Glock doesn't offer the .38 Super chambering.
There certainly seem to be a lot of offerings and re-configurations of the basic .38 lead ball, from .380/9mm "Kurz" to 9mm Largo and .357 Sig. Why all this historical fine-tuning of the same basic round?
Is this true for .380 also?
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Yes, but keep in mind this is only true for the exact same type of cartridge.
Different bullet weights and styles will have slightly different seating depths and OAL (overall length), so you can't draw any conclusions comparing (hypothetically) 125gr Federal JHP to 130gr Remington FMJ, for instance.
Actually the mag disconnect makes it possible to render the weapon useless with a button touch if you are struggling for it with a thug. Something to consider when you have backup weapons and said thugs doesn't.
The mag disconnect is an option. You can order these guns without them.
Their eyesight would probably beat mine too, I haven’t been to an optometrist in over a year.
But that’s my reason.
Where do you work at a range?
Santa Barbara, PRK
Darn, I’m on the east coast.
You need a vacation to the coast. Including trigger time with coeds. Heh.
Sounds like something I should consider.
I've logged over a hundred thousand in my old 69Cxxxx Browning, mostly Winchester 115-grain ball from a semitrailer load during a training contract for *special embassy personnel*, with largish quantities of Shelbyville Super-Vel 90 grain JHPs, 123 grain Lapua ball and Canadian C1 DA60 and IVI loads also noted. As well as British RG-Z loads, Israeli Tzz, and FN *Oxyless*
My observations about Blazer and Wolf cases are about the same as yours, though the extractor would sometimes tear through the rim of some early Blazer aluminum cases, and the problem with the Wolf laquered steel cases is that they scuff the cases of each other inside the mag and bind in a Browning GPs single-row feed magazine, just as they do in some open-bolt firing SMGs.
I mostly carry a .45 for anything serious, but my old Browning GP has been a good and faithful companion for almost 40 years now, and gets a good exercise every now and again. It'll feed empty cases or most any profile of bullet, reliably fires anything with a working primer stuffed into it, and fits my hand like Mssrs Browning and Saive designed it just for me. Good old shooter.