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The Death of the GOP and the Birth of a New Political Party
RMS941 ^ | 1/29/08 | AJ Madison

Posted on 01/29/2008 9:52:21 PM PST by pissant

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To: VegasBaby

Frankly, I do NOT want the “squishy independent vote.”

I want conservatives to vote for conservatives.

Alas...there are no conservatives for whom to vote...not for President.

I think we should concentrate on the House.
Lord knows we need to own something to stop the tsunami that’s about to come.


141 posted on 01/30/2008 1:06:33 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: NRA2BFree

The SC judges likely to retire during a Democrat’s tenure would be liberals anyway. McCain’s going to sign an amnesty bill just like Hillary or Obama would, so in my mind, why have the baggage placed on a Republican president’s shoulders? Plus, why reward McCain for years and years of screwing over the Republican party? We’d just be telling the GOP that we’re fine with how things are going.


142 posted on 01/30/2008 1:06:56 AM PST by VegasBaby (No way to McStain)
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To: dixiechick2000

The ‘06 Republican defeat was the fault of the fringe voters who stayed home and allowed the dims to win just as some here are suggesting will be done with this year’s election. The Republican leadership is smart enough to not allow that to happen again. New voters must be brought into the party to replace the extremists on the right that would see this country devastated by a Clinton presidency.


143 posted on 01/30/2008 1:10:05 AM PST by End Times Crusader (The Comeback Candidate: John McCain - Leadership for America)
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To: End Times Crusader
"The ‘06 Republican defeat was the fault of the fringe voters who stayed home and allowed the dims to win just as some here are suggesting will be done with this year’s election."


That was part of it, but not the sum total.
Folks were fed up with out of control spending, and scandals such as the Mark Foley thing.
Plus, the 'Rats ran on earmarks...they said they would get rid of them.

Don't you remember the "Culture of Corruption"?


" The Republican leadership is smart enough to not allow that to happen again."


I wish I had your confidence.


"New voters must be brought into the party to replace the extremists on the right that would see this country devastated by a Clinton presidency."


So...who are these "extremists" of whom you speak?

144 posted on 01/30/2008 1:18:09 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: pissant

The name is too unweildy - I’d go with something like “Founders Party” or something....but beyond that, I think that the best play might be to have a “summit” of all the at least somewhat acceptable “third” parties and lay out an overarching Reaganite Platform and invite those who can accept it whole to merge into what would effectively be “The Party of Reagan”...maybe they would all be consumed with being big fish in their own small pound, but I’d at least ask.


145 posted on 01/30/2008 1:19:14 AM PST by WillRain ("Might have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one.")
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To: VegasBaby
The SC judges likely to retire during a Democrat's tenure would be liberals anyway. McCain's going to sign an amnesty bill just like Hillary or Obama would, so in my mind, why have the baggage placed on a Republican president's shoulders? Plus, why reward McCain for years and years of screwing over the Republican party? We'd just be telling the GOP that we're fine with how things are going.

I think one of the Judges is conservative, which would hurt our cause bad. We've got to hope that we can keep a conservative edge over the RATS. I know what your saying about McCain, but would you rather have Hillary or Obama?

146 posted on 01/30/2008 1:24:51 AM PST by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: NRA2BFree

I don’t think so. The oldest members on the Court are both very liberal—Stevens and Ginsburg. New next oldest are Scalia and Kennedy. I doubt Scalia’s going anywhere. I don’t know about Kennedy, but he’s a moderate at best.

I’m willing to take my chances and endure for four years if it means a chance to have a better option on the Republican side. I think McCain would be a disaster.


147 posted on 01/30/2008 1:32:16 AM PST by VegasBaby (No way to McStain)
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To: Vigilantcitizen

John McCain has the momentum going in to Super Tuesday. His nomination is assured.


148 posted on 01/30/2008 1:33:50 AM PST by End Times Crusader (The Comeback Candidate: John McCain - Leadership for America)
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To: dixiechick2000
The extremists are those who would not vote Republican thus allowing Hillary Obama to become president.
150 posted on 01/30/2008 2:08:42 AM PST by End Times Crusader (The Comeback Candidate: John McCain - Leadership for America)
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To: mkjessup

A response worthy of a low-life.


151 posted on 01/30/2008 2:13:07 AM PST by End Times Crusader (The Comeback Candidate: John McCain - Leadership for America)
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To: End Times Crusader

Anyone who votes for some idiot who called John F’in Kerry his “dear friend” is a fool at best, a degenerate at the worst.

Now go check the mirror, fool.

I’m in a generous mood this morning.

“End Times Crusader”, wotta joke.


152 posted on 01/30/2008 2:16:02 AM PST by mkjessup (GOP + FOX + National Review = The NEW "Axis of RINOs")
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To: pissant

Maybe in 2010 a new wave will appear. I have no idea why the GOP has tumbled so fast. But the voters have spoken.
I drew the line with McCain and Ill stand by it. He will probablly be the nom and I’ll stay home. RIP GOP.


153 posted on 01/30/2008 2:22:47 AM PST by rrrod
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To: End Times Crusader

Sorry, but there is no way I could force myself to vote for an @$$#%!& like McCain. He has stuck far to many daggers into my back.


154 posted on 01/30/2008 2:30:12 AM PST by David Isaac (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: mkjessup
...who called John F’in Kerry his “dear friend”...

I think this is another problem we all have with McCain, Lott, etc........this idiotic cordialiality between members of the opposing parties.

Think back, since 1994, the House was fairly conservative, passing decent legislation. The stumbling block was in the Senate, home of the RINOs, where everything fell apart.

Conservatives are sick of our Senators (even RINOs) being nice to the Dems while they stick knives in our back and call our President names.

155 posted on 01/30/2008 2:33:43 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: pissant

This is an example of over reaching.

“The death of the GOP” doesn’t equate with the beginning of a third party.

The GOP will hang on for longer than this guy thinks. It’s just that it won’t be much like what it used to be.

Will that possibly lead to its death somewhere down the line? Possibly, but I don’t bet the ranch on it. But for sure it’s death doesn’t line up in the here and now, or in the near future, with this guy starting a third party.


156 posted on 01/30/2008 2:35:41 AM PST by txrangerette (Anyone, ANYONE but McCain/Huckabee)
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To: pissant

Where is Ross Perot when we need him?


157 posted on 01/30/2008 3:58:40 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The Democratic Party is only a front for the political establishment in America - Big Journalism.)
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To: pissant

It’s past time!

The birth of ‘Conservative Party’ is essential to the survival of our country!


158 posted on 01/30/2008 4:25:03 AM PST by airborne (The Founding Fathers would be deeply saddened.)
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To: pissant

A new party would not be a third party. The GOP has moved so far to the socialist left over the years that it has and is incrementally adopting the political ideology to the socialist Democrats. They are essentially one party. Another party will restore the two party system.


159 posted on 01/30/2008 4:29:53 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: End Times Crusader
Not voting Republican = Voting Democrat Clear enough?

So, you would have me vote for a Democrat who registered as a Republican? A wolf in sheeps clothing?

160 posted on 01/30/2008 4:30:00 AM PST by airborne (The Founding Fathers would be deeply saddened.)
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