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HOW RUDY TOPPLED FROM POLITICAL PEAK (mountains of negative stories)
NY POST ^ | January 30, 2008 | MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 01/30/2008 8:03:49 AM PST by Liz


HE HAD HIGH HOPES: Giuliani, with third wife Judith Nathan, signs autographs in NH a year ago. He lost NH to John McCain.

Rudy Giuliani sailed into a political perfect storm. After nearly a full year of leading in the polls and dodging early fumbles, his image of electability sank as his poll numbers tumbled. He faced mountains of negative stories about disgraced ally Bernie Kerik, and spent two weeks punching at shadows over reports alleging that, while mayor, he deliberately hid security expenses related to his then-mistress. His campaign never got its arms around the story, and it took a visible toll on Giuliani - who then wasted another week dodging questions about a health scare aboard his campaign plane. When voter concerns shifted from the war to the faltering economy, Giuliani's rationale faded. His bogeyman, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, lost her aura of inevitability. His team badly misread the depth of his support. Giuliani telegraphed concern about his own strategy of using Florida as a "firewall" to blunt early losses before Feb. 5 by saying in November that he could win New Hampshire. But he soon retreated - after spending north of $3 million on direct mail and TV ads, only to see his polls numbers dive.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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Must be a record in American politics---Rudy spent $50 million and got one delegate for his trouble.

One blogger posted: "Rudi Julie Annie is finally accepting the fact that no one likes him or wants him to be the next President, it figures that this grotesque, cross-dressing, Nosferatu look alike is going to support John McCain... McCain and Hillary... No difference."

1 posted on 01/30/2008 8:03:54 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
One blogger posted: "Rudi Julie Annie is finally accepting the fact that no one likes him or wants him to be the next President, it figures that this grotesque, cross-dressing, Nosferatu look alike is going to support John McCain... McCain and Hillary... No difference."

BTTT

2 posted on 01/30/2008 8:06:54 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Liz

I think there are people that do like Rudy, but he didn’t do, for whatever reason, what it took to keep his candidacy alive. I’m disappointed that he has decided to endorse McCain. I think he should have stayed neutral.


3 posted on 01/30/2008 8:09:11 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: Liz

He was just too liberal. Why can’t you guys in the press understand that?


4 posted on 01/30/2008 8:10:58 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired of all the politics in politics.)
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To: Liz

“Rudy Giuliani sailed into a political perfect storm.”

ooops


5 posted on 01/30/2008 8:14:33 AM PST by jedward
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To: beaversmom
I think there are people that do like Rudy, but he didn’t do, for whatever reason, what it took to keep his candidacy alive.

Exactly. Staying out of the early caucii and all the free press and limelight associated with them was a dumb move.

6 posted on 01/30/2008 8:14:40 AM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Liz

I think Republicans can stomach some socially liberal positions, but not all positions.

McCain is probably bit just as liberal, but can pretend to be otherwise better. His POW status helps.


7 posted on 01/30/2008 8:15:10 AM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: Liz
Well, there were all the things mentioned in the article, but there was also the fact that the candidate’s positions were anathema to mainstream Republican and conservative values.

Giuliani was a radical pro-abort, and maintained his position with an “in your face” attitude every time it was brought up.
He supported gun control and other attacks on the 2nd Amendment, which conservatives rightly hold dear.
He was a vocal champion of gay “rights” and civil unions.

He got the miserable showing he deserved. He should have run as a Democrat, he would have done better.

8 posted on 01/30/2008 8:21:49 AM PST by Deo volente
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To: Liz

Once McCain clinches majority of delgates there will be buckets of mud coming from the usual suspects.


9 posted on 01/30/2008 8:23:38 AM PST by AU72
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To: Liz

Say what you will about the guy, but the liberal establishment really, really, really hates his guts.
That says something for him, I’m not sure what, but it says something.


10 posted on 01/30/2008 8:23:50 AM PST by threeleftsmakearight
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To: Liz

Rudy ran like he was a entitled liberal, which he is. He was too good to get in the trenches and fight it out, no he just figured it was his and he had “earned” and was entitled to the nomination. I still can’t see what people saw in him.


11 posted on 01/30/2008 8:25:01 AM PST by engrpat
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To: Liz
"He faced mountains of negative stories about disgraced ally Bernie Kerik, and spent two weeks punching at shadows over reports alleging that, while mayor, he deliberately hid security expenses related to his then-mistress. His campaign never got its arms around the story, and it took a visible toll on Giuliani - who then wasted another week dodging questions about a health scare aboard his campaign plane."

Lame excuses, IMHO.

It's your LIBERALISM Rudy.

12 posted on 01/30/2008 8:25:16 AM PST by sweet_diane (213 days to kickoff! Roll Tide ROLL !)
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To: Liz

Will the truth file fade from FR? And the banned souls drift back? Who knooows....


13 posted on 01/30/2008 8:26:57 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Just - my - humble - opinion.)
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To: Liz
How Rudy toppled from political peak

I don't know about anybody else, but the prospect of seeing this picture until election day was more than I could handle:

14 posted on 01/30/2008 8:27:48 AM PST by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Liz; PhilDragoo

People like you and Phil Dragoo on the internet exposed Rudy’s realities.


15 posted on 01/30/2008 8:35:39 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: Liz

Negative stories my patootie. His absurd strategy of not campaigning in the early primaries was what did him in. If being liberal on a lot of things had done him in, then McCain wouldn’t be the frontrunner.


16 posted on 01/30/2008 8:40:00 AM PST by squidly
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To: Grampa Dave; Liz; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; MeekOneGOP

17 posted on 01/30/2008 8:40:01 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Liz

It’s amazing how his career went into a flat spin after bowing out of the Senate race with Hellary. Everything is falling right into place for a HELLary Presidency. Its almost as if the devil himself was working on her behalf.

Reminder: Defeating Hellary is the Prime Directive.


18 posted on 01/30/2008 8:49:13 AM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: AU72

Yep, they took down Giuliani and they will take down McCain the same way. If anything, he’s got more dirt in his background than Giuliani could ever hope to have.


19 posted on 01/30/2008 8:49:43 AM PST by LadyNavyVet (I don't vote for Democrats, and that includes John McCain.)
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To: Liz; Jim Robinson
Hey Liz!

While I am pleased and gratified to see Rudy-Tooty about to bow out, the idea that we're looking at a potential McInsane nomination is appalling, kind of like finishing up chemotherapy, being told that you have a clean bill of health, and then the next day you discover flesh-eating bacteria starting to gnaw on you.

But kudos to Jim Rob and FR and the famous 'Bug Zapper' thread that not only cleansed and purified this forum from the abominable RudyBots, I've no doubt that the organized resistance to Rudy on FR started reverberations that helped to undermine his campaign, and "that's a GOOD thing!".

Now we have to figure out how to throw a monkey wrench into the 'Straight-RINO Express', and insead draft retired General Peter Pace, USMC as the GOP nominee.

Pace can do for the GOP this year, what Ike did in '52.
20 posted on 01/30/2008 9:03:56 AM PST by mkjessup (GOP + FOX + National Review = The NEW "Axis of RINOs")
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Will the truth file fade from FR? And the banned souls drift back? Who knooows....

I wouldn't bet on it.
21 posted on 01/30/2008 9:06:58 AM PST by mkjessup (GOP + FOX + National Review = The NEW "Axis of RINOs")
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To: Liz

They just don’t want to touch on the fact that Rudy’s disdain for the 2nd amendment has anything to do with this.
It is just another attempt to marginalize us.


22 posted on 01/30/2008 9:29:12 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Liz

I like to think I helped him crash.


23 posted on 01/30/2008 9:58:32 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: beaversmom

I think the election is rigged from the start.

We had a whole bunch of liberals trotted out front by the RNC hacks in D.C. with their willing accomplices in the media, on Madison Avenue, and in the bowels of DNC hell.

The illegal immigrant proxy invasion and the economic proxy invasion of Chinese goods will eventually tear down the U.S. manufacturing base.

Now, the big Wall Street geniuses want their Keating Five bailout man to stick us with the bill for the subprime lending and mortgage failures.

Giuliani was just one of their leftist dupes people rejected.

It isn’t over yet...


24 posted on 01/30/2008 10:14:26 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Well said Dan!


25 posted on 01/30/2008 10:14:56 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Constitution does not give me the authority to run your life - Ron Paul)
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To: Liz

I think the election is rigged from the start.

We had a whole bunch of liberals trotted out front by the RNC hacks in D.C. with their willing accomplices in the media, on Madison Avenue, and in the bowels of DNC hell.

The illegal immigrant proxy invasion and the economic proxy invasion of Chinese goods will eventually tear down the U.S. manufacturing base.

Now, the big Wall Street geniuses want their Keating Five bailout man to stick us with the bill for the subprime lending and mortgage failures.

Giuliani was just one of their leftist dupes people rejected.

It isn’t over yet...


26 posted on 01/30/2008 10:16:26 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

"My girdle is killing me."

27 posted on 01/30/2008 11:01:08 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: PhilDragoo
Must be true love (gag).


28 posted on 01/30/2008 11:03:52 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz; rmlew; firebrand; Cacique

Rudy was toppled NOT by the media, but by himself. Between an incompetant campaign (DuHaime will be lucky to get a job running a school board election), a f—k you attitude towards the smaller states, and a tin ear when it came to meeting the movement conservatives even half-way, he effectively ceded his turf to McCain.


29 posted on 01/30/2008 11:05:28 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: threeleftsmakearight
Say what you will about the guy, but the liberal establishment really, really, really hates his guts.

Uh, who do you think elected him in the first place? It was LIBERAL DEMOCRATS who make up the majority of the NY electorate. Rudy won the Jewish vote, got 43% of the Latino vote and even got 20% of the black vote (the latter for his second term run against Messinger).

(True) Independents, Republicans and (dare I say it) white Christians are a small minority in NYC.

30 posted on 01/30/2008 11:11:02 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: engrpat

Nice deconstruction.


31 posted on 01/30/2008 12:03:25 PM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Clemenza
and a tin ear when it came to meeting the movement conservatives even half-way

That was the big mistake he made. His own arrogance did him in. Had he been willing to meet movement conservatives halfway, he could have easily had the nomination in the bag, although he would have lost the general. We were lucky he was so pig-headed...

the infowarrior

32 posted on 01/30/2008 4:26:51 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Now, the big Wall Street geniuses want their Keating Five bailout man to stick us with the bill for the subprime lending and mortgage failures.

We would be stuck with *that* particular bill, regardless, Sir Francis... One of the prime players being Citicorp, who just happens to be a substantial chunk of not only the US Federal Reserve, but the International Monetary Fund/World Bank absolutely precludes any other outcome. *WE* are going to be forced to pay the bill for their short-sighted greed, no matter who occupies 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue this time next year.

Is it fair? Hell no!! But, it's reality...

the infowarrior

33 posted on 01/30/2008 4:33:06 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: Liz
From my standpoint, this front page photo in the New York Post (dated almost exactly a year ago) was the beginning of the end of his political aspirations. This was the one thing that turned my dislike of Giuliani into complete revulsion.

As soon as I saw the depths to which this New York City tabloid rag would sink (i.e., splashing an airbrushed propaganda photo like that -- in which that hag wife of his was made to look young enough to be his daughter -- on the front page) in order to prop up his candidacy, I started to get very suspicious about what exactly this unrepentent leftist was really all about.

FWIW, this is what Giuliani's wife really looks like . . .


34 posted on 01/30/2008 8:34:23 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: PhilDragoo

Perfect!

Now pardon me while I puke if McLame gets the nod. :(


35 posted on 01/30/2008 9:45:12 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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