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Airliner crew restrain co-pilot ‘who wanted to talk to God’ (his name is still being withheld)
The Herald (U.K.) | Jan. 30, 2008 | by William Tinning

Posted on 01/30/2008 4:19:14 PM PST by jdm

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TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aircanada; copilot; lhr; pilots; psycho
Why won't they release his name?
1 posted on 01/30/2008 4:19:22 PM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

Probably because they are treating this as a medical issue, and are protecting his privacy.


2 posted on 01/30/2008 4:20:46 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: jdm
they'll be no talking to God on THIS plane!
3 posted on 01/30/2008 4:21:18 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (what would the founders do?)
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To: jdm

Did the name “Allah” come into play at all ???


4 posted on 01/30/2008 4:21:38 PM PST by cmsgop ( McCain , Do Not Want.....)
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To: jdm

Perhaps he is of swarthie descent.


5 posted on 01/30/2008 4:22:25 PM PST by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: jdm

I’m sure his name Joe Smith. Nothing to see here......


6 posted on 01/30/2008 4:22:55 PM PST by camerakid400
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To: jdm

Was there not another one of these guys that drove an airliner straight into the Atlantic ... while he was talking to his god?


7 posted on 01/30/2008 4:23:08 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: jdm

Talking is one thing (praying, perhaps?).

Wanting to crash that plane to kill the infidel for 72 hot perpetual virgins in paradise is quite the different matter.

Guess we’ll have to wait for more details.


8 posted on 01/30/2008 4:23:35 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: jdm
The UK has a different approach to things than we do when it comes to certain offenses.

For instance, in the US, we can easily learn the name of a man charged with rape but not the victim's name.
In the UK, you will learn the name of neither.

In this case, the principle may be the same.

Although, I could be wrong and the perp could be a stinking Muslim slime bag who wanted to meet with allah.

9 posted on 01/30/2008 4:25:08 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Bureaucracy is a parasite that preys on Free Thought and suffocates Free Spirit.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Egypt Air 990 in 1999(?).

In the cockpit transcript, he bullies a pilot out of his seat early, to which that pilot tells the other (while he was to come back momentarily) that he always got his way.

Then he gave the other pilot a pen and said “here, go return this to him”.

After the door closes. the throttles were closed and the engines apparently shut off. They also say the two yokes were being pushed/pulled in opposite directions when one of the pilots returns and screams “did you shut off the engines?”

All the while Batouty is saying “I trust in allah....” (they say “god” but I’d bet a muslim is saying “allah”)


10 posted on 01/30/2008 4:28:17 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: SlapHappyPappy

Medical condition or not, if you “act up” on a flight i am on I will take great pleasure in rendering you unable to continue. A few swift kicks or punches would have settled the co-pilot right down........


11 posted on 01/30/2008 4:29:27 PM PST by 9422WMR (When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.)
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To: jdm

I could be wrong, but I have a hunch that he is a pie-eyed proselyte of the Pirate Polygamist Pedophile “Prophet”.


12 posted on 01/30/2008 4:32:15 PM PST by Westbrook
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To: Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; Wright is right!; ..
Ping to Aeronaut's ping list!
Our errant co-pilot failed to remember the below poem, by a fellow Canuck:

High Flight

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long delirious, burning blue,
I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew -
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untresspassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand and touched the face of God.

Pilot Officer Gillespie Magee
No 412 squadron, RCAF
Killed 11 December 1941

13 posted on 01/30/2008 4:35:01 PM PST by IonImplantGuru (I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Nothing in the article suggested he was Muslim.

From the headline though, it looks like the writers enjoy capitalizing upon this pilots seeming mental/emotional distress, by portraying those whom have a desire to speak with God, as being lunatic. Since the pilot was acting lunatic otherwise.

14 posted on 01/30/2008 4:36:17 PM PST by BlueDragon (I talk to God almost all the time. He don't [audibly] answer much...)
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To: jdm
And when he said God did he use the word allah? Just wondering.....
15 posted on 01/30/2008 4:36:20 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; Wright is right!; ..
Ping to Aeronaut's ping list!
Our errant co-pilot failed to remember the below poem, by a fellow Canuck:

High Flight

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long delirious, burning blue,
I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew -
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untresspassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand and touched the face of God.

Pilot Officer Gillespie Magee
No 412 squadron, RCAF
Killed 11 December 1941

16 posted on 01/30/2008 4:37:08 PM PST by IonImplantGuru (I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!)
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To: jdm; Lijahsbubbe
He was swearing and asking for God and very distressed. He basically said he wanted to talk to God."

Poor guy. He had to complain about the food to someone.

(Was it really halal?)

17 posted on 01/30/2008 4:39:17 PM PST by Ezekiel
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To: 9422WMR

I agree with that, but it doesn’t mean the whole world needs to know his name.


18 posted on 01/30/2008 4:42:37 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: BlueDragon
Nothing in the article suggested he was Muslim.

I wasn't referring to the article. I was referring to the veiled hints here on this forum that he is probably Muslim becasue his name is being withheld.

19 posted on 01/30/2008 4:46:41 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Bureaucracy is a parasite that preys on Free Thought and suffocates Free Spirit.)
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To: IonImplantGuru

Didn’t they play this on TV at the end of the day when the channel was about to go off the air for the night? Back when channels went off the air at night.


20 posted on 01/30/2008 4:49:57 PM PST by jwalburg (The climate will change, weather we like it or not)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I think the guy is Canadian. The source is in the UK.


21 posted on 01/30/2008 4:58:47 PM PST by jdm (A Hunter Thompson ticket would be suicide.)
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To: jdm

The quote about “wanting to talk to God” was from a passenger on the flight who heard the pilot’s rant after he was removed from the flight deck. I doubt he would censor “Allah” and replace it with “God”.


22 posted on 01/30/2008 5:14:32 PM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: jdm

I wouldn’t mind my pilot wanting to talk to God.

Now, if he wanted to visit him while I’m still on the plane ....


23 posted on 01/30/2008 5:16:03 PM PST by RonF
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To: SlapHappyPappy

SlapHappyPappy wrote
“I agree with that, but it doesn’t mean the whole world needs to know his name.”
Ah come on...
A little ridicule and humiliation is a good thing in American society. This whiner mentality with protection of immunity needs to be done away with. You screw up in public, make it known to everyone who you are. Turn the light on and embarrass these people, no more excuses for bad behavior.....


24 posted on 01/30/2008 5:18:31 PM PST by 9422WMR (When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.)
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To: jdm
‘who wanted to talk to God’

NO one ever told him he could do that anytime?

25 posted on 01/30/2008 5:28:35 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: jdm
Why won't they release his name?

Because the small g god he wanted to talk to is called allah?

26 posted on 01/30/2008 5:29:58 PM PST by null and void (Conservatism. It's the new Black...)
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To: jwalburg
Didn’t they play this on TV at the end of the day when the channel was about to go off the air for the night? Back when channels went off the air at night.

Not sure, but Ronald Reagan quoted it in a speech 22 years ago last Monday.

27 posted on 01/30/2008 5:36:48 PM PST by mwyounce
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To: IonImplantGuru; fanfan

An airline pilot who forced a UK-bound jet to divert after suffering an apparent nervous breakdown is being comforted by his wife in a psychiatric ward in Ireland.

Air Canada is investigating the disturbance which forced the captain to land the Boeing 767 aircraft, en route from Toronto to London, at Shannon Airport.

The co-pilot, who was met by medical personnel, remains in psychiatric care after claims he had to be restrained on board by fellow crew members. The airline said a second pilot has accompanied the man’s wife to be by his side in a hospital in Ennis, Co Clare.

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/jet+diverted+as+pilot+has+breakdown/1444047


28 posted on 01/30/2008 5:56:23 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: jdm

Since we are talking about a pilot who by requirements of his job has to pass physical examinations quite frequently, I do not quite believe that he just got ill gradually and on his own. When a healthy man suddenly gets ill like that it is wise to check his blood on presence of psychotropic drugs. It’s not too difficult for a cafeteria worker to give a pilot a cup of coffee with a tiny pill inside. In right circumstances this can crash the airplane.


29 posted on 01/30/2008 5:57:36 PM PST by Greysard
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To: george76

“The airline said a second pilot has accompanied the man’s wife to be by his side in a hospital.”

Sounds like a mooselimb way for the wife to leave the home. With a male relative or trusted friend.


30 posted on 01/30/2008 6:24:29 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (All my bullets are dipped in PIG fat. How about yours?)
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To: US_MilitaryRules; BIGLOOK

The aircraft was less than an hour from London when the first officer began “acting in a peculiar manner and talking loudly to himself”, according to one source.

Sean Finucane, a passenger on the flight, said the co-pilot “just wanted to talk to God”, adding: “He was yelling loudly but didn’t sound intoxicated.

“When they tried to put his shoes on later, he swore and threatened people. He was very, very distressed.”

The 149 passengers were taken to nearby hotels as the airline arranged for a replacement crew to be flown to Shannon to take the aircraft on to Heathrow, where it landed at 4.15pm on Monday, eight hours behind schedule.

Airport spokesman Eugene Pratt said the pilot requested a “medical diversion” but did not declare an official emergency.


31 posted on 01/30/2008 6:35:09 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
My mistake, then. After reading some of those other comments, I sort of picked one to reply to at random. I didn’t pick up on the veiled sarcasm. It went right over my head. But thank you for the explanation!
32 posted on 01/30/2008 7:20:58 PM PST by BlueDragon (I talk to God almost all the time. He don't [audibly] answer much...)
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To: jdm; Cindy; JustPiper; Velveeta; nw_arizona_granny

ping.


33 posted on 01/30/2008 7:23:25 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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34 posted on 01/31/2008 5:01:31 AM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: F15Eagle
All the while Batouty is saying “I trust in allah....” (they say “god” but I’d bet a muslim is saying “allah”)

This is a common whitewash. Just once, I would like this baal "Allah" to be credited with this madness, instead of the MSM jiggering the translation so that MY God gets the blame.

35 posted on 01/31/2008 5:04:33 AM PST by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: mwyounce
Back when channels went off the air at night.

Back when you could mention God in a positive way on television...

36 posted on 01/31/2008 5:06:23 AM PST by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: cmsgop

That is what I want to know — any reference to ALLAH? That would make this make so much more sense. And of course, since the Muzzies ARE mentally unstable, and they want to talk to Allah before they do their dastardly deeds, it would make perfect sense.

Will wait and watch for these details ....


37 posted on 01/31/2008 7:21:36 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: george76

Wait a minute — he had his SHOES off? Isn’t that what Muzzies do when they pray?

These details are not in the news, but that’s not unusual. But it is a variable worth knowing, and it has not been spoken one way or the other. And until I KNOW, I won’t know.

Frankly, if he is a Canadian, there is a good chance he IS. And a good chance that the Brits will not mention it until months later.


38 posted on 01/31/2008 7:25:50 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Turbopilot
“The quote about “wanting to talk to God” was from a passenger on the flight who heard the pilot’s rant after he was removed from the flight deck. I doubt he would censor “Allah” and replace it with “God”.”

No, but thats exactly what a newspaper editor would do. One should never suppose an editor would be above bald faced lies, let alone changing a direct quote to suit himself.

39 posted on 01/31/2008 8:41:40 AM PST by monday
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To: 50sDad

Yep, they do a good job of trying to keep the reader, especially the American reader ignorant, so that they cannot tell the difference between “allah” and the God of Israel.


40 posted on 01/31/2008 10:30:37 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: bboop
And a good chance that the Brits will not mention it until months later.

Hard to see what this has to do with the British. The man was taken off the plane at Shannon, which is in the Republic of Ireland.

41 posted on 01/31/2008 12:26:29 PM PST by Winniesboy
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To: jdm
Some time last year the British media decided (under pressure) not to mention the "ethnic origins" of people in the news. Too prejudicial.

Note: The Brits call Middle Easterners, "Asian". Something to remember.

42 posted on 01/31/2008 12:31:13 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Winniesboy
The Irish are even more P.C. than the Brits.

Plus thousands died in the "potato famine"...potatoes being a side dish...because they were too drunk to fish. Why would you take their word.

43 posted on 01/31/2008 12:39:04 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Winniesboy

The British NEWSPAPER which ran this article, is what I was refering to.


44 posted on 01/31/2008 8:18:50 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: cgk

Thanks for the ping.


45 posted on 02/01/2008 10:47:30 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1886546/posts?page=4972#4972 45 Item Communist Manifesto)
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