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Horses suffer as U.S. economy sours
United Press International ^ | Jan. 31, 2008 | United Press International

Posted on 01/31/2008 2:23:17 PM PST by mdittmar

ZIMMERMAN, Minn., Jan. 31 (UPI) -- The operator of a horse-rescue organization in Minnesota said the number of neglected horses needing care has gone up dramatically as the economy slows.

Drew Fitzpatrick is now caring for 90 horses at the Minnesota Hooved Animal Rescue Foundation in Zimmerman. She told the St. Paul Pioneer-Press Thursday the economic downturn has been tough on horses bought when times were good.

Wade Hanson of the Humane Society said calls about neglected horses are running at 15 a month, while about 15 horses are dying needlessly a year. Both neglect cases and deaths have quadrupled, the report said. Hanson said many newly rich people bought spreads in the country and added horses without knowing much about them. "They thought they were going to be ranchers," he said.

"They are so clueless. I have talked to people who didn't think horses needed water in the wintertime, because they would just eat snow."

Some of the horse owners put stallions and mares in the same field, not realizing that would lead to more horses.


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Can't we all urge the Senate to pass this bill,lets do it for the horses;)
1 posted on 01/31/2008 2:23:18 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar
Horsemeat

Good eatin'.

2 posted on 01/31/2008 2:26:13 PM PST by fishtank (Fenced BORDERS, English LANGUAGE, Patriotic CULTURE: A good plan.)
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To: mdittmar

LMAO! Economy sours-women, children and horses hardest hit...


3 posted on 01/31/2008 2:26:41 PM PST by Texan5 (You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line...)
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To: mdittmar

I was told long ago, don’t have a hobby that has to eat.


4 posted on 01/31/2008 2:27:29 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: mdittmar

I like horses a lot (probably because I’ve never been bit or kicked). Can’t I care without seeing them as equals to people?


5 posted on 01/31/2008 2:28:56 PM PST by CCCnative (waiting for socialism to fail in Santa Cruz as it did in Soviet Russia)
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To: SF Republican

It’s not a hobby, it’s a tax farm.


6 posted on 01/31/2008 2:29:09 PM PST by RightWhale (oil--the world currency)
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To: mdittmar

And it’s a shame that Illinois is trying to shut down the last horse processing center in the U.S.


7 posted on 01/31/2008 2:29:37 PM PST by Tinman73 (Human nature requires We forget the terrible things We see. A truly intelligent person remembers it)
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To: mdittmar

Isn’t this good news for dog owners?


8 posted on 01/31/2008 2:30:54 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft
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To: SF Republican

Sounds like generally sage advice.


9 posted on 01/31/2008 2:32:54 PM PST by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: fishtank

Yikes!! What an awful picture.
Horsey


10 posted on 01/31/2008 2:34:14 PM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: mdittmar

They think horses suffer? Just wait and see what happens to marriages.

And the murder rate!


11 posted on 01/31/2008 2:38:33 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: mdittmar

Why does George Bush hate horses?


12 posted on 01/31/2008 2:39:17 PM PST by jbwbubba
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To: mdittmar
I've been watching the local craigslist farm and garden category, and people are dumping all kinds of livestock - horses, cows, goats, sheep, pigs, donkeys, mules, pigeons, chukar partridges...

I'd love to get this mustang, but where would I put it?

13 posted on 01/31/2008 2:39:30 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: mdittmar
Horses suffer as U.S. economy sours

"We aren't all suffering"

14 posted on 01/31/2008 2:40:41 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: mdittmar
Wade Hanson of the Humane Society said calls about neglected horses are running at 15 a month, while about 15 horses are dying needlessly a year. Both neglect cases and deaths have quadrupled, the report said. Hanson said many newly rich people bought spreads in the country and added horses without knowing much about them. "They thought they were going to be ranchers," he said.

Absolute tripe. I know a guy who runs a horse ranch. The reason that people are abandoning them is a direct result of a recently passed bill that prohibits the slaughter of horses for meat in the United States. Formerly when a horse outlived it's usefulness you could sell it for slaughter where the meat would be sent overseas or possibly used domestically. This meant that horse breeders could get a certain amount of income from selling their horses for slaughter when they had no other use.

The ranchers now have a little way to recoup the cost of upkeep for horses that aren't worth anything otherwise. That means they're either forced to keep pouring money into maintaining horses, ship them for slaughter to Canada or Mexico where it's legal but where shipping costs almost outweigh profit or abandon them.

These abandoned horses are a direct result of congressional action.

15 posted on 01/31/2008 2:42:31 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: mdittmar; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; Diplomat; ...

Female, gay and illegal horses hurt the worse!


16 posted on 01/31/2008 2:43:05 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Wish I was a little closer to your area. I’m particularly interested in the brush hogs that are for sale. The 13 footer must be a real dandy, mucho bacon for sure!


17 posted on 01/31/2008 2:46:09 PM PST by WinMod70
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To: mdittmar
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18 posted on 01/31/2008 2:48:13 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: mdittmar

Well, it’s like I tell most libs (which causes them to grit their teeth) Prosperity is the key to our problems.

Prosperous nations can afford to take care of animals, the environment, the disabled, the old folk. Whack away at prosperity, you end up actually wrecking your efforts to take care of the less fortunate.

I’m convinced the libs do it purposely. Wreck the economy by interfering and taxing “to help the children”, and suddenly everything is worse and everyone needs more help. Then the government gallops to the rescue.


19 posted on 01/31/2008 2:50:58 PM PST by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: mdittmar

Mares and foals hardest hit.


20 posted on 01/31/2008 2:52:07 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Tinman73

From what I understand, people are just shipping their nags to Mexico, subjecting them to more stress and shoddy slaughterhouse standards. The law of unintended consequences.


21 posted on 01/31/2008 2:52:07 PM PST by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: mdittmar

What bill?


22 posted on 01/31/2008 2:53:25 PM PST by johnbubba1055
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To: fishtank

It’s what’s for dinner


23 posted on 01/31/2008 2:55:41 PM PST by doctor noe
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To: Tinman73

Exactly.


24 posted on 01/31/2008 2:57:07 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Nice horse picture.


25 posted on 01/31/2008 3:00:17 PM PST by Amadeo
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To: fishtank
“Good eatin’.”

Nope. Feels like cannibalism. Despite having been nipped, and stepped on, more than once.

26 posted on 01/31/2008 3:01:25 PM PST by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: cinives
I have horses and I have a hard time keeping them from getting too fat but the guy behind me is starving his. I can’t stand to watch it, but I don’t want the government to get involved. I just have to keep it to myself in that regard. I have talked to him about it.
27 posted on 01/31/2008 3:04:11 PM PST by johnbubba1055
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To: mdittmar

This has nothing to do with the economy. It has to do with the elimination of the horse slaughtering plants in the US and no place to send horses when a person no longer wants it.


28 posted on 01/31/2008 3:04:16 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Tinman73

The Law of Unintended Consequences strikes again. And the hand-wringers who make these laws never for a moment take into account their responsibility for the increased suffering and misery they create.

The article fails to mention that hay and feed prices have benn driven up in large part by the rush to produce ethanol from corn. Those hay producers who haven’t gone over to corn production are charging far more per ton than they used to. Here in northern Idaho, we’re looking at an average of $200/ton for local grass hay. We can get a better deal by driving 100-150 miles or so to the Columbia Basin hay producers and by loading our own once we get there.

In another triumph of liberalism, the local Rathdrum Prairie hay producers have mostly given up and sold out owing to two things - the real estate boom and the onging campaign against field burning. People who farmed here for generations were ruthlessly assaulted by new move-ins who complained about the annual field-burning that rid the fields of noxious weeds and pests and prepared the soild for the next hay crop. So they pressed for and got burn bans passed and severe restrictions where they couldn’t get an outright ban.

The article does make a good point, though. New-rich city- bred morons are so clueless when it comes to country living, much less sound animal husbandry. Style over substance - so typicaly lib. And these poor animals suffer for it while their owners blame capitalism and George Bush.


29 posted on 01/31/2008 3:11:08 PM PST by Noumenon (The only thing that prevents liberals from loading us all into cattle cars is the power to do it)
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To: DouglasKC
This was as predicted if the anti-slaughter bill became law. As with similar do gooder laws passed by congress, they will never be rescinded even if it is shown all of the collateral damage they cause.
30 posted on 01/31/2008 3:12:17 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: mdittmar

Who lobbies for the horses, Mr. Ed?


31 posted on 01/31/2008 3:13:45 PM PST by twhitak
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To: RobRoy

Don’t forget all of we wives that are going to be beaten after the Super Bowl by our drunken, evil husbands!

(’NOW Hag False Statistic’ Alert!)


32 posted on 01/31/2008 3:16:30 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: DouglasKC

“These abandoned horses are a direct result of congressional action.”

And the skyrocketing costs of feed corn, due to the congressionally mandated biofuel requirement.


33 posted on 01/31/2008 3:17:17 PM PST by FreeInWV
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To: Tinman73

All horse processing facilities in the US are already closed. They have been since early summer 2007. Unfortunately this is causing severe overpopulation of herds and depressed horse prices. Here in Kentucky many horses at auction cant be sold because it cost more to feed them than they are now worth. If you are feeling charitable you can buy lots of horses for five and ten dollars each. Most people see beautiful horses running in well manicured fields of plush grasses. The type of scene you often see here in Kentucky. Those well intentioned folks equate this with the senseless slaughter of beautiful animals. Horses that are in good health and those that have been properly cared for are not sent to slaughter. The horses which are slaughtered in almost all cases are very old, or in very poor health, and near death. I do not wish to see any animal put down inhumanely but many do need to be put down. In the coalfields of Eastern Kentucky where mining lands have been reclaimed with lush grasses some horses are thriving. But a lot of these horses have just been dropped off here. Many are old and also in poor health. Making these areas into dying fields where animals die a slow and sometimes painful death. If horses are allowed to be put down humanely in a properly run slaughterhouse the carcasses can be disposed of properly. This is necessary to protect drinking water supplies and other livestock. And horse prices could return to normal levels making most horses too valuable for slaughter. Most people who put horses down don’t do it because they hate horses most do it because they hate to see them suffer.


34 posted on 01/31/2008 3:17:20 PM PST by cquiggy
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To: fishtank

N’importe qui qui mange de la viande de cheval est un âne.

N’importe qui les thats mangent un âne est fichu affamé.


35 posted on 01/31/2008 3:19:32 PM PST by Gator113 (McCain will lead our country....into the valley of darkness, with Hillary holding our hand.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Don’t make me have to come over there!!!


36 posted on 01/31/2008 3:35:31 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: mdittmar

I am in Michigan. I just got a load of good hay for $4/bale. It is going for $6/bale at the auctions.

Four dollars was a VERY good price. I was not expecting such a good price.

Round bales that cost us $25 last year, cost $35 this winter.


37 posted on 01/31/2008 3:43:21 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: vetvetdoug
This has nothing to do with the economy.

Last year was a very bad year for hay (at least in Michgan). We all knew that prices this year would be high and horses would be available cheap at the auctions.

People were predicting $7-$8 per bale. It is not that bad this year... yet.

38 posted on 01/31/2008 3:45:43 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside
I know nothing about horses or hay.

Do you have horses?

39 posted on 01/31/2008 3:53:02 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: mdittmar

Yeah. We have four.


40 posted on 01/31/2008 3:54:04 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: mdittmar

Here was a local story on the hay shortage.

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Hay shortage hurts horse owners

Posted by The Grand Rapids Press January 25, 2008 06:23AM

Categories: Breaking News, Business

A shortage of hay is causing problems for area horse owners.

One can buy a horse at auction in Michigan for $40, which is what it costs to buy two bales of Michigan-grown hay in Florida.

Hay that is available is selling for about $6 a bale, more than double the price of a year ago. Supplies need to stretch until at least May or June, said Jan Brinn, of the Michigan State University Extension Office in Allegan County.

“They need a constant flow all day long, and when they don’t have that flow, bad things start happening,” said James Connell, Allegan veterinarian and horse owner.

http://blog.mlive.com/grpress/2008/01/hay_shortage_hurts_horse_owner.html


41 posted on 01/31/2008 3:58:00 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

Are you waiting for the government to “save your horses”?


42 posted on 01/31/2008 3:59:02 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: mdittmar

Department of Health and Horse Services?


43 posted on 01/31/2008 4:01:47 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: RightWhale

It’s virtually impossible to get a deduction for having horses. That “loophole” was closed years ago, under Clinton, and resulted in the closing of many horse farms here in Florida (a big ranching and horse racing state).


44 posted on 01/31/2008 4:08:18 PM PST by livius
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To: johnbubba1055

I wonder if your fence could “fail” once in a while. I hope you can get the animal cops involved, that’s their job.


45 posted on 01/31/2008 4:09:22 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: cquiggy

That’s true. Horses live a long time, especially if they don’t have to work (like most modern horses), and they would often be better put down than allowed to get decrepit, arthritic - and turn into candidates for shipment to a Mexican slaughterhouse.


46 posted on 01/31/2008 4:12:02 PM PST by livius
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To: mdittmar

THE ECONOMY IS “SOURING” BECAUSE OF A STUPID MORTGAGE CREDIT BUBBLE!

Argh. Some people are not in the housing market and want to afford a house someday without getting a 100-year interest-only loan to pay for it. For people like me, a housing return to mean is excellent news. Increasing the price of a 100 year old house by 400% in five years does not add to the economy.


47 posted on 01/31/2008 4:12:08 PM PST by dan1123 (You are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. --Jesus)
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To: mdittmar

45 posts and unless I missed it everyone is overlooking a simple solution. Create a new department under US Agriculture to oversee the care and feeding of unwanted horses in all 50 states and territories. These noble and magnificent beasts deserve to be cared for and surely everyone here can spare a few bucks a year of their tax money to see to it there’s enough grass to eat and vet care.


48 posted on 01/31/2008 4:17:51 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: livius

There are a lot of houses around here with horses and it is rare to never to see anybody doing anything with their horses. Usually two horses and an acre or two. Most have had their horses for years, so maybe they are waiting for the farm deduction to come around again, horses having a lifetime greater than a Presidential term.


49 posted on 01/31/2008 4:19:28 PM PST by RightWhale (oil--the world currency)
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To: mdittmar

very sad


50 posted on 01/31/2008 5:44:09 PM PST by RDTF
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