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Obama Republicans?
Townhall.com ^ | February 3, 2008 | Salena Zito

Posted on 02/03/2008 5:13:20 AM PST by Kaslin

ST. LOUIS - Barack Obama speaks in a clear style that almost always leaves his audience with a sense that he stands for something – which explains those comparisons with the last “Great Communicator,” Ronald Reagan.

Some of the comparisons have been used in opposition research against Obama, though largely in vain. Nothing detrimental stuck because Reagan successfully bridged the divide between Republicans and Democrats by building a remarkable coalition known as Reagan Democrats.

If one great communicator -- the eloquent Ronald Reagan -- could build a coalition of disaffected Democrats that swung both of his presidential elections his way, can an almost-great communicator -- the fiery Barack Obama -- build a coalition of disaffected Republicans to swing the Democrat primary election his way?

It's possible, says Brian F. Schaffner, an assistant professor of political science at American University in Washington, D.C. "Obama definitely has the potential to win over some Republicans in the same way that Reagan won over some Democrats,” says Brian F. Schaffner, an assistant professor of political science at American University in Washington, D.C.

Even though Obama probably takes more liberal positions on many issues than does Hillary Clinton, Schaffner says the perception among Republicans is that he is more moderate.

“This is a matter of style over substance,” Schaffner notes. “Obama speaks so often of bringing the parties together and working with Republicans, he seems less polarizing to Republicans than Clinton, who has long been demonized by that party.”

The Pew Research Center corroborates Schaffner's inkling. It recently produced a report showing that Obama is perceived as more liberal than Clinton among Democrats, yet is seen as more moderate than Clinton among Republicans.

One Republican who isn't afraid of Obama's liberalism is John Martin, who directs the grassroots Web organization “Republicans for Obama.”

A Bronx, N.Y., native who was very active in the Young Republicans in college, Martin, 29, is in law school but serving on active duty in Afghanistan as a U.S. Navy reservist. E-mailing from Afghanistan, Martin said his group has more than 400 members since he last checked and that the Web site’s server received so many clicks the day Obama won Iowa that it crashed.

Lisa Kinzer, 30, is another rock-ribbed Republican who's gone Obama. The Norman, Okla., native has been a registered Republican for 12 years. She has nothing against President Bush. But she does have a problem with the GOP's 2008 candidates.

Their bickering over the morality of using torture while interrogating terrorist suspects in an early debate was her turning point, she says, so she went to shop on the Democrats' side and picked Obama -- who she believes stands the best chance of uniting the nation of bringing the country back together “of by "reminding us of what we all have in common, our love of this country and our hope for its future.”

Towson University science professor Antonio Campbell is a lifelong Republican -- he even ran as one in Maryland’s 7th Congressional District 10 years ago. Yet if Obama wins the Democrats' nomination, Campbell says he will become an “Obama Republican.”

“Obama’s message reads like Reagan’s playbook -- individual strength, faith and behaving in a fiscally competent way,” Campbell says.

Obama is the only Democrat he would vote for, Campbell adds. His second choice is John McCain.

“The opportunity does seem to be out there for Obama to build an 'Obama Republican' coalition,” says Cal Jillson, political science professor at Southern Methodist University in Dallas.

While Obama clearly will not replicate Reagan’s policies, Jillson says, he might replicate Reagan’s larger theme of America as a land of opportunity. He might even persuade some Republicans “that government can effectively help families meeting their most serious challenges, like steady jobs at good pay, health care and college tuition at affordable prices.

Obama won in the more conservative states of South Carolina and Iowa. Now, heading into Super Tuesday, he is knocking on doors in more-conservative, ruby-red states such as those he's knocking on here in Missouri and Kansas.

His tactics build on Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean’s 50-state strategy that, coupled with promising candidates, won Democrats the 2006 mid-term election.

“Reagan represented a fundamental shift in politics -- he created a majority coalition, and the voting population changed,” says Jillson, as the primaries head into Super Tuesday.

If Obama can do to Republicans what Reagan did to Democrats, then Obama really will be 2008’s “candidate of change.”


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1 posted on 02/03/2008 5:13:21 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

He has the potential to win over some RINOs, but not Republicans as I understand the definition.


2 posted on 02/03/2008 5:16:26 AM PST by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: Kaslin

What a collection of nitwits, from the author right on down to the interviewees.


3 posted on 02/03/2008 5:17:38 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine
Here's proof:

Obama is the only Democrat he would vote for, Campbell adds. His second choice is John McCain.

4 posted on 02/03/2008 5:18:57 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: Ronin

And those that are on his side are already RINOs


5 posted on 02/03/2008 5:18:59 AM PST by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Kaslin

they just referred to them as ‘Obamacans’ on Fox


6 posted on 02/03/2008 5:19:31 AM PST by RDTF
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To: Kaslin
There is no such thing. If they are for Obama or Hillary, they are not conservatives. They might CALL themselves republicans, but that would put them directly in the RINO category. Or, they are simply Marxist Dimocrats trying to tell us they are republicans. Any, ANY, ANY person that calls him or herself a conservative, that votes for Hillary or McCain or Miff, ARE NOT CONSERVATIVES.
7 posted on 02/03/2008 5:20:21 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America wants socialism. It wants it all for free. It wants the government to provide all.)
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To: Kaslin

“Lisa Kinzer, 30, is another rock-ribbed Republican who’s gone Obama.”

Sure.


8 posted on 02/03/2008 5:21:51 AM PST by toddlintown (Building More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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To: RetiredArmy

I think I called them by the correct name, up in post 3.


9 posted on 02/03/2008 5:22:16 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: Kaslin
Obamasama sounds more and more like Eisenhower. He has nearly the same vocal qualities to start with and it sounds like he's receiving voice lessons to improve on it.

This is exceptionally dangerous for the Hildabeast since Ike attracted millions of Democrats with little more than the soothing sound of his voice.

Remember, he was the Supreme Allied Commander.

Ike also attracted millions of Republicans.

10 posted on 02/03/2008 5:22:21 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: John Valentine
—yep—they remind me of the Perot “change” folks—

--(the last time I saw the most vociferous one of those that I had known, he was looking for the Lawrence County jail in Deadwood, SD so he could go serve time for his traffic offenses)—

11 posted on 02/03/2008 5:22:35 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: RetiredArmy

Actually, you can’t become a RINO unless you are elected. This guy isn’t elected. That means he has to be nothing more than a countryclubber, and cannot, definitionally speaking, be part of the party base.


12 posted on 02/03/2008 5:23:36 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

No, you can be a RINO and not be elected. There are plenty of RINOs running around, even here on FR, and they are not elected.


13 posted on 02/03/2008 5:25:37 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America wants socialism. It wants it all for free. It wants the government to provide all.)
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To: Kaslin
I can see a Republican voting for Obama, but only in an effort to thwart Hillary.

Otherwise, said voter is hardly a Republican. (On the other hand, many "Republicans" are voting for McCain, so it's hard to say what Republican means any more.)

14 posted on 02/03/2008 5:31:26 AM PST by Semper911 (Jimmy Carter gave us Ronald Reagan, so maybe Clinton 44 won't be such a bad thing.)
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To: Kaslin
says Brian F. Schaffner, an assistant professor of political science at American University in Washington, D.C. "Obama definitely has the potential to win over some Republicans in the same way that Reagan won over some Democrats,” says Brian F. Schaffner, an assistant professor of political science at American University in Washington, D.C.

I know Salena ias a Freeper, but her go-to guys are despicable leftists, at least in the last two cases I've checked. Schaffner's political contribution history on Newsmeat is short and exclusive : America Coming Together , about which Wikipedia says:

America Coming Together (ACT) was a liberal, political action, 527 group dedicated to get-out-the-vote activities. ACT did not specifically endorse any political party, but mostly worked on behalf of Democratic candidates. They were the largest 527 group in 2004 and were planning on being involved in races in the future. They were primarily funded by Peter Lewis, George Soros, and labor unions, especially the Service Employees International Union, and led by Steve Rosenthal, who is the former political director for the AFL-CIO.

so basically, what you have here is the Soros shaping of public opinion

15 posted on 02/03/2008 5:32:47 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Kaslin

How ANYONE can vote for this Muzzie I will never understand. I know a retired West Point graduate/career Army guy who is over the moon over him. He and his wife think he is the greatest thing since store bought bread and they are Christians!


16 posted on 02/03/2008 5:32:48 AM PST by proudofthesouth (Liberalism IS a mental illness.)
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To: Kaslin
"Barack Obama speaks in a clear style..."

O'Barnum's speaking style, which is to accent the end of each phrase is an old carny barker's trick.

17 posted on 02/03/2008 5:35:15 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Semper911
I can see a Republican voting for Obama, but only in an effort to thwart Hillary.

Yup, crossing over on Tuesday to stop Billary's assault on the Constitution. However, I must admit that part of my cross over decision was impacted by the fact I don't like any of the GOP candidates.

18 posted on 02/03/2008 5:35:18 AM PST by 11th Commandment
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To: Kaslin

A few Republicans will be wooed by Obamscam but not many.


19 posted on 02/03/2008 5:39:31 AM PST by ricks_place
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To: All
This is a joke, right? Reagan declared that the government was the problem...and most all of us have jumped that ship and are up to our necks in the water. We’d like to think that we hear Reagan when politicians speak — a Reagan throwing us a life preserver. But no politician in this era has ever been on the same ship as Reagan was so the life preservers that are thrown to us today are made entirely out of lead.
20 posted on 02/03/2008 5:42:35 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (Do class-warfare and disdain of laissez-faire have their places in today's GOP?)
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To: proudofthesouth
Wait until they taste real racism if that muzzie plant is elected. Those that take time to do research know how racist osama and his preacher-man really are.

LLS

21 posted on 02/03/2008 5:49:03 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote for?)
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To: Kaslin

I know more than a few of these folks...
you’ve heard of “self-hating Jews”,
the Obamacans I know are “self-hating Catholics”.


22 posted on 02/03/2008 5:49:25 AM PST by davidlachnicht ("IF WE'RE ALL TO BE TARGETS, THEN WE ALL MUST BE SOLDIERS.")
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To: RetiredArmy
Technically speaking that's never been the case ~ the term has been reserved for use with the elected version.

On the other hand the "countryclubbers" were always more interested in party operations and internal politics so you did have folks in the infrastructure who didn't share the ideological position of the rank and file, or "base" of the membership.

Every now and then one of the party professionals (who never get beyond positions within the party structure) will pipe up and tell us what they think and if it's obnoxious enough they are encouraged to get new jobs somewhere else. That doesn't mean they are RINOS.

23 posted on 02/03/2008 5:50:11 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: LowCountryJoe
Reagan declared that the government was the problem... no politician in this era has ever been on the same ship as Reagan was so the life preservers that are thrown to us today are made entirely out of lead.

All of them get a government check - EXCEPT Romney...

24 posted on 02/03/2008 5:50:52 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: RetiredArmy

It’s hard to imagine. I read an article on here just yesterday showing his voting record. He’s one of, if not the most liberal person in the Senate.


25 posted on 02/03/2008 5:52:38 AM PST by Rush4U (unnamed source)
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To: Kaslin

The money quote: “This is a matter of style over substance.”

Obama has no substance. He’s all just style.

FWIW, I absolutely *hate* his phony “uh” rhetorical style. It’s uh grating to hear his uh little affectations coming uh through all the uh time. Ugh.


26 posted on 02/03/2008 5:54:24 AM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: rellimpank

Perot had some good qualities - he fought for POWs, he loved this country, and he talked about NAFTA and the budget. I think he really is a good man, but deeply unPresidential. He should have realized Bush was a better man than Clinton. He ended up electing a damaged man, unfit for office.

The problem with Obama is he is a cypher - people just see what they want to see. If he really went all out and talked policy, things would change. He also has a thin skin, and is a bit foolish on foreign policy, among other things. When he talks of bringing the country together, if he was called on it, it would be to get Repubs to bend to liberalism. In some ways, he may be more bad for the country than Hillary. She’s less opaque.


27 posted on 02/03/2008 5:54:32 AM PST by PghBaldy
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To: 11th Commandment
the fact I don't like any of the GOP candidates

That's because you are a conservative. God help us. You may find a bit of comfort in my tagline.

28 posted on 02/03/2008 5:57:39 AM PST by Semper911 (Jimmy Carter gave us Ronald Reagan, so maybe Clinton 44 won't be such a bad thing.)
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To: Kaslin
He won't be winning over prolife Republicans...
29 posted on 02/03/2008 5:59:19 AM PST by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
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To: Kaslin
I don't think this story is entirely BS. I am hearing a lot of, "Despite the fact that I disagree with Obama on everything, I'm really starting to like the guy!"

Obama generates warm feelings among Republicans who enjoy watching the Clintons lose their grip on power and then lash out publicly in red-faced anger towards the one person who is standing in their way. Given the disgust so many Republicans are feeling towards their own candidates, some of pleasure in watching Obama giving Hillary her comeuppance might actually carry over to a "maybe he might not be a bad president" attitude.

I do feel that if the Democrats are smart enough to nominate Obama, they'll win in a landslide. The Clintons are bound and determined to not let this happen. They would rather destroy their party than lose power.

30 posted on 02/03/2008 6:05:26 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Theo

FWIW, I absolutely *hate* his phony “uh” rhetorical style. It’s uh grating to hear his uh little affectations coming uh through all the uh time. Ugh.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You know, I know, you know, just what you meant, you know, I hate, you know, hearing Hitlery say you know all the time, you know? If McCain is the Republican nominee I just may start researching other countries to move to and beat the rush that will happen after the general election regardless of which party wins.


31 posted on 02/03/2008 6:08:42 AM PST by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: Semper911
I can see a Republican voting for Obama, but only in an effort to thwart Hillary.

I heard a man who said he a republican state he switched parties to work for Obama as a way of keeping Hillary down.

I think the ground swell for Obama will continue to increase.
His perceived charm and charisma lends him a great deal of political cache.
More folks from both parties will see it as advantageous to get on his bandwagon.
Don't know if it will enough to overcome the established Clinton machine, though.

Wish I still had a candidate in this race.
I'd like to root for somebody.
32 posted on 02/03/2008 6:09:26 AM PST by MaryFromMichigan
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To: Semper911

You may find a bit of comfort in my tagline.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Nope, the part that comes after the comma is just too unbelievable!


33 posted on 02/03/2008 6:11:30 AM PST by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: Kaslin

Many Republican primary voters are as dense and uninformed as their Democrat neighbors. I would imagine that some could be won over on emotional grounds to back Oprah’s Obama.


34 posted on 02/03/2008 6:14:48 AM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: proudofthesouth

That is a good example of how uninformed so many Americans are these days despite their formal education and Christian background.


35 posted on 02/03/2008 6:17:10 AM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Drew68
I don't think this story is entirely BS. I am hearing a lot of, "Despite the fact that I disagree with Obama on everything, I'm really starting to like the guy!"

Obama generates warm feelings among Republicans who enjoy watching the Clintons lose their grip on power and then lash out publicly in red-faced anger towards the one person who is standing in their way. Given the disgust so many Republicans are feeling towards their own candidates, some of pleasure in watching Obama giving Hillary her comeuppance might actually carry over to a "maybe he might not be a bad president" attitude.

I do feel that if the Democrats are smart enough to nominate Obama, they'll win in a landslide. The Clintons are bound and determined to not let this happen. They would rather destroy their party than lose power.

Ditto to everything you said. (Which is why I felt the need to quote the entire post ;) Succinct, and dead on analysis.

36 posted on 02/03/2008 6:18:54 AM PST by MichiganMan (Look, if you wanna find poorly endowed guys, don't spam me, go hang out in a Hummer dealership.)
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To: RetiredArmy
I think that you and most of the other posters are missing something here.

I have two nephews who are just like this guy. They are both young (32/26), both well educated, both successful in corporate careers. They were raised as Evangelicals (the rest of us are Catholic). Suddenly, both are for Obama.

These guys have been voting Republican for as long as they've been of age. They never showed any indication of even the slightest drift toward the left. There is something in Obama that appeals to the under 35 crowd. And, they see McCain as the grumpy old man who yells at them instead of talks with them.

We can insult their intelligence or their honesty or their motives but that will do us no good. There is a reason why these young Republicans are turning. If we don't find a way to address it then we risk losing much of their generation.

37 posted on 02/03/2008 6:20:43 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: John Valentine

So well said! Thank you.
susie


38 posted on 02/03/2008 6:20:55 AM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Kaslin
The magic of Reagan wasn't just the way he said things, it was what he said. He built the coalition because he got democrats to believe what he was saying not just because he said it so well.

Any "republican" who would vote for Obama isn't a republican.

"Republicans for Obama" is like "gay men for T & A"

39 posted on 02/03/2008 6:21:15 AM PST by infidel29 (Santorum 2012..)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
All of them get a government check - EXCEPT Romney...

That's not criteria that I concern myself with. Many decent people with ideologies similar to mine get government checks. There are some solid Republicans who draw Social Security even though they may wish that the money was never confiscated from them in the first place, freeing them to invest the seized money privately. McCain himself, would be drawing a government check because of his 21 years of service in the Navy.

It's what your character is all about, not whether you draw a check from the government, which is important to me. But, maybe not to you. Tell me, when you are eligible for Social Security, will you refuse it?

40 posted on 02/03/2008 6:21:49 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (Do class-warfare and disdain of laissez-faire have their places in today's GOP?)
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To: Kaslin
I know I will get brickbats here, but I will probably vote for Obama over McCain. I would rather vote for an authentic liberal than a liberal dressing in drag as a conservative. To paraphrase Harry Truman, if my choices are a real Democrat or a fake one, why not vote for the real thing?

Obama will either turn out to be a great President or he will be a Jimmy Carter type disaster, and Mitt Romney will win in 2012. Either way we are finally rid of John McNasty. Mitch McConnell will hold down the fort in the Senate until 2012.

41 posted on 02/03/2008 6:21:58 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (Waiting for 2012 to vote for an actual Republican)
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To: wtc911

I’m 25 and still a Republican, for now anyway. Obama isn’t as bad as Hillary but he has no appeal to me.


42 posted on 02/03/2008 6:23:21 AM PST by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: proudofthesouth

Most Americans do very little research. They choose candidates based on looks, style, and HOW they sound, and of course what the MSM tells them to think.
They don’t deserve good candidates, but the rest of us are stuck with what these nitwits pick (thank you to John Valentine for the perfect term for them).

susie


43 posted on 02/03/2008 6:24:23 AM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: LowCountryJoe

It’s funny because last week he was the New Kennedy, and this week he’s the New Reagan?
susie


44 posted on 02/03/2008 6:25:26 AM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: wtc911
This move to Obama, is a move to be in on the “firsts.” The first real black prez (not Klinton’s BS); the first Muzzie elected prez; being in on change in America; going with the new pop culture of electing Obama. Obama is a rock star. He has no record to back him up. He has done nothing. A state representative a few years, a senator for 4. What experience does this guy have to run this country? What are his credentials? None. Everyone is jumping on the rock star band wagon. Wanting to be part of the “movement.” The NEW face of politics.
45 posted on 02/03/2008 6:25:53 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America wants socialism. It wants it all for free. It wants the government to provide all.)
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To: RipSawyer

Well, Mexico might be the place to go. It should soon be empty...
susie


46 posted on 02/03/2008 6:28:50 AM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
If Obama can sink Hillary and McCain we have a twofer.

Then hope for a Carter-like stupid one-term Presidency that buries the Democrats for another twenty years and _we_ are back in business.
47 posted on 02/03/2008 6:29:42 AM PST by cgbg ("A skilled commander seeks victory from..situation..does not demand it of..subordinates." Sun Tzu)
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To: RetiredArmy
You hit the nail on the head (meaning of course that we agree). I have been writing here for two weeks that the Obama campaign is not just that but a movement, and that is dangerous for many reasons.

IMO if we see McCain/Obama (a septagenarian, prototypical Angry White Male vs. a charismatic, YOUNG, 'new', blended, cool American) then we will see a series of debates that will make the 1960 JFK/RMN disaster look like a prom date.

48 posted on 02/03/2008 6:32:13 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: darkangel82

Stay strong and talk sense to your peers...


49 posted on 02/03/2008 6:32:52 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Kaslin
I’ll bet quite of few of these so-called rock-ribbed Pubbies have zero clue as to Obama’s hyper liberal record and that his nicey-nice sounding platitudes equal hyper liberal policies.
50 posted on 02/03/2008 6:34:52 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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