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Jennings Rides Again: Kristol Warns Conservatives Against 'Temper Tantrum'
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 02/04/2008 11:18:12 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

The voters had a temper tantrum last week . . . Parenting and governing don't have to be dirty words: the nation can't be run by an angry two-year-old. -- Peter Jennings, November 14, 2004, commenting on the Republican landslide.

[C]onservatives . . . can choose to stand aside from history while having a temper tantrum. But they should consider that the American people might then choose not to invite them back into a position of responsibility for quite a while to come. -- William Kristol, February 4, 2008, on conservative aversion to McCain.

It's one thing to be bawled out by the late Peter Jennings. But do conservatives have to have their knuckles rapped by one of their own, Bill Kristol? Apparently yes, as per the Weekly Standard editor's New York Times column of today, Dyspepsia on the Right.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billkristol; gopcoup; johnmccain; mittromney; peterjennings
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To: snarkybob
If mcamnesty is the nominee you will see 40 years of dim majority again. mcinsane is the culprit at this time... and it will ALL be HIS fault. He cannot and will not beat the dim... and the lying msm is spouting the opposite. Too many here are buying their soap powder and it is nothing but crushed peanut hulls.

LLS
101 posted on 02/04/2008 12:47:02 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote for?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
California's Republican Party "grew up" about ten years ago. How's it doing?

I believe that the California Republican Party decided to make the party more "competitive" (be more accepting of Democrat positions, less "divisive"). That happened when Democrat Gray Davis was elected governor in 1998.

There was much gnashing of teeth and mental suffering brought on by the lie that as Republicans they incurred great damage by supporting Prop 187 -- never mind that the last Republican governor not only won on that issue but I believe the Republicans made great gains in the legislature the same year (1994).

Since then there have been, I believe, exactly three Republicans elected to statewide offices including "star power" Arnold Schwarzenkennedy.

Now the National Republicans are saying grow up and be like the Californians.

I cannot prove it but I am certain that the California Republican Party is run by Democrat moles -- I wonder about the influence of Democrat moles on the National Republican Party.

102 posted on 02/04/2008 12:47:53 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: no dems

Don’t. Voting for Obama will just send the message that the electorate wants -more- liberal candidates. If you must protest vote, write in Fred Thompson or something, but sitting it out or voting for the Dem will only be interpreted in ways that help the liberals in both parties.

Qwinn


103 posted on 02/04/2008 12:49:01 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: Qwinn

True. Actually, I could never vote for a Democrat.


104 posted on 02/04/2008 12:54:45 PM PST by no dems (Politcal Correctness is Fascism)
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To: Liz

Liz, is there any rational explanation for what’s going with this party? I am at a total loss to explain this capitulation.


105 posted on 02/04/2008 12:55:49 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Miss Didi

Barnes was never a Conservative... he just played one on TV.

LLS


106 posted on 02/04/2008 12:59:22 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote for?)
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To: no dems

Me either...but in all honestly we are in this present situation for a reason. First...the media has been pimping McCain....and indys and dems have voted for him.....

But....

Brit Hume said something about all this that I thought was right on...he said that the Republicans (conservatives) piddled away their power by supporting people who could not win instead of backing the most conservative man who could win.

And now they have the most liberal guy of all in the lead.

ie . Fred, Huck, Hunter, Tancredo etc.....

He is right.

Romney would have won already if conservatives hadn’t been so damn stupid

I think conservatives did PIDDLE their power away...


107 posted on 02/04/2008 12:59:30 PM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi
"What was the need for Kristol's pre-emptive scolding strike?"

Conservatism without conservatives?

Maybe he was speaking esoterically?

108 posted on 02/04/2008 1:12:20 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Kristol was for McCain in 2000. I see that he still is.

I don't take kindly to his partisan scolding those of us who do not agree w/him, and I certainly do not take HIS advice about whom I should vote for.

109 posted on 02/04/2008 1:21:53 PM PST by Carolinamom
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To: bill1952
If they could win without us, not to mention treating us like dirt while doing so, then they would not be spending precious resources in damage control.

Zackly. They've got to be time-sharing a brain to think this will work.

110 posted on 02/04/2008 1:23:17 PM PST by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I do not need to be lectured to by the likes of William Kristol.


111 posted on 02/04/2008 1:32:36 PM PST by sauropod (I'd rather be waterboarded than vote for John McCain)
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To: DoughtyOne

I was a foot soldier.”

That pic is funny

LOL


112 posted on 02/04/2008 1:33:46 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The voters had a temper tantrum last week . . . Parenting and governing don't have to be dirty words: the nation can't be run by an angry two-year-old. -- Peter Jennings, November 14, 2004, commenting on the Republican landslide.

Uh.....wasn't that 1994?

113 posted on 02/04/2008 1:35:06 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Carolinamom
If it is down to taking orders from dorks from Harvard, things really are in bad shape.

Bring back Reagan!


114 posted on 02/04/2008 1:35:40 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
He's a New York Times conservative, which tells us all we need to know.
115 posted on 02/04/2008 1:37:24 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Thanks. That particular comment was from last week’s debate. John said that he led the way, but when he relized he had overstated his case, he backed off with the ‘food soldier’ comment.


116 posted on 02/04/2008 1:38:12 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McCain: RNC will adore him. Get ready for McCain day in photos & Prayer threads. Furrball isle 08.)
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To: tomnbeverly

All five of the issues that you list as dear to you are doomed if the Hispanic invasion isn’t halted. Check out California if you don’t believe me.


117 posted on 02/04/2008 1:40:16 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: DoughtyOne

Funny you should ask, since if McCain is nominated I intend to write in “Ronald Reagan”. I would encourage all true conservatives to do the same. If the total were large enough to be the difference between McCain winning and losing, it would send a clear message to the Republican Party while preventing the Democrat from getting a clear majority.

Better than “non of the above” since it clearly states where you are coming from.


118 posted on 02/04/2008 1:41:09 PM PST by CMAC51
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Bingo!


119 posted on 02/04/2008 1:42:42 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Exactly right.


120 posted on 02/04/2008 1:44:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McCain: RNC will adore him. Get ready for McCain day in photos & Prayer threads. Furrball isle 08.)
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To: CMAC51

While I like that, I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be better to write in a viable candidate like Hunter or Thompson.

Viable? Perhaps capable of governing would be more accurate.


121 posted on 02/04/2008 1:46:35 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McCain: RNC will adore him. Get ready for McCain day in photos & Prayer threads. Furrball isle 08.)
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To: Hattie
Why are all these guys so worried we may not fall into their line and so what they say?

Because they need us and we don't need them.

122 posted on 02/04/2008 1:48:56 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: SERKIT

Sorry about that — don’t know how it crept in. I had it right in the original at NewsBusters.


123 posted on 02/04/2008 1:58:03 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: Liz
The Kristol crowd are cheerleaders for the worst initiatives the current administration has pursued -- including the immigration amnesty atrocity.

That is an excellent point that should not be overlooked.

124 posted on 02/04/2008 2:36:09 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: mrsmel

“if McCain becomes the Republican candidate, Her Thighness couldn’t have gotten a more defeatable opponent if she’d picked him herself...”

The way the MSM has been slobbering over him since New Hampshire, I think she did.


125 posted on 02/04/2008 2:51:47 PM PST by LadyNavyVet (I don't vote for Democrats, and that includes John McCain.)
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To: America-The-Great-1967

I’ve been trying to tell people here for years that the military is not monolithically Republican. A lot of Freepers can’t seem to get it through their brains that the military is a cross section of America, and votes that way.

I knew military officers who supported Dukakis, although that was certainly not the norm. I also knew very few people in the military who were anywhere near as conservative as I was.


126 posted on 02/04/2008 3:00:05 PM PST by LadyNavyVet (I don't vote for Democrats, and that includes John McCain.)
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To: CMAC51

Great minds think alike. Hubby and I are both planning to write in Ronald Reagan if McCain’s the nominee.


127 posted on 02/04/2008 3:08:24 PM PST by LadyNavyVet (I don't vote for Democrats, and that includes John McCain.)
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To: Miss Didi
I think the reason Big Media wants McCain in there is because it would be cake to portray McCain as a crusty mean old white man v. Obama/Clinton. He'd be crushed as demos get out the vote. With Romney that strategy is off the table. And this morning Lanny Davis told the Friends on Fox that the Dems are sooooooooooooo scared of McCain.

heh, yep, that's the way they want it - they know Romney will kill them, so for the Dems they need McCain...
128 posted on 02/04/2008 3:48:11 PM PST by Republicus2001
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To: puroresu

Islamic Terrorism worries me quite a bit more than Illegal Mexicans that pick our fruit, cut our lawns et.al.


129 posted on 02/04/2008 4:07:37 PM PST by tomnbeverly (If Islamic Jihad is an existential threat then the candidate that should be POTUS is a no brainer.)
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To: tomnbeverly

Over 45,000 Americans have been killed by illegal aliens through a combination of murder and drunk driving since 9/11.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53103


130 posted on 02/04/2008 4:21:50 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: DoughtyOne
While I like that, I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be better to write in a viable candidate like Hunter or Thompson. Viable? Perhaps capable of governing would be more accurate.

There is no viable third party or write-in candidate. That would result in a broad dispersion of votes that would barely be reported if at all. If McCain is nominated you have limited option, hold your nose, vote Dem as a message, stay home as a message, or place a vote that sends a message. Writing in Ronald Reagan would send a clear unambiguous message if an effort could be organized.

Today I am just planting a seed. If McCain gets the nomination, I might start plowing the field.

131 posted on 02/04/2008 5:02:05 PM PST by CMAC51
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To: LadyNavyVet

Today, I am just planting a seed. If McCain gets the nomination, it may be time to start plowing the field. Would Rush, Hannity, Beck, Coulter and the others step up and lead a movement? If Ronald Reagan got enough votes to cause McCain’s defeat and keep the Democrat winner under 50% it would be a major victory for Conservatism. It would be better than “none of the above”, because the message it would send would be loud and clear.

Repeat the idea whenever you can. Keep planting seeds.


132 posted on 02/04/2008 5:07:39 PM PST by CMAC51
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

[C]onservatives . . . can choose to stand aside from history while having a temper tantrum. But they should consider that the American people might then choose not to invite them back into a position of responsibility for quite a while to come. — William Kristol, February 4, 2008, on conservative aversion to McCain.


Bill, Remember 2006? We were not joking then, we are not joking now.


133 posted on 02/04/2008 5:10:58 PM PST by Grunthor (Republicans for McAmnesty suffer from Battered Base Syndrome..."BUT HE LOVES ME!")
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To: tomnbeverly

“Islamic Terrorism worries me quite a bit more than Illegal Mexicans that pick our fruit, cut our lawns et.al.”

That’s because you have no long term perspective...and of course you are a McCainiac liberal.


134 posted on 02/04/2008 5:12:33 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If I could only reach into my TV and get a hold of this pansy’s throat.


135 posted on 02/04/2008 5:14:29 PM PST by Gator113 (McCain will lead our country....into the valley of darkness, with Hillary holding our hand.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Careful, Billie Kristol, you’re going to get a good spanking if you don’t behave yourself! (ooops, that might get some other RINOs a little too excited.....)


136 posted on 02/04/2008 5:17:04 PM PST by Enchante (Hillary Clinton: As a little girl near Chicago I always dreamed of the NY Giants in the SuperBowl!!)
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To: mrsmel

ding ding ding! I couldn’t agree more - this is simply the single greatest threat to our country and *should* be considered issue number one by all conservatives IMO. The influx of masses of people who do not want to assimilate or have no desire to work within our country’s system will cause our national identity to erode irreparably!

Once we lose our borders, language and culture, we will cease to exist as the greatest nation on the planet. I just can’t fathom how this OBVIOUS and simple truth eludes so many people...


137 posted on 02/04/2008 9:24:11 PM PST by jurroppi1
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