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Why Romney Failed
National Review ^ | February 8, 2008 | Byron York

Posted on 02/08/2008 4:02:17 AM PST by monkapotamus

Why Romney Failed
Where was he coming from? Voters never really knew.

By Byron York

Washington, D.C. — It’s telling that Mitt Romney formally began his presidential campaign in Michigan and ended it in Washington, D.C. The man who made Massachusetts his home, who has lived there for 35 years, was its governor, and put his campaign headquarters in Boston, could never reconcile his past as a successful Massachusetts politician — a moderate — with the style of true-blue conservatism that he believed he would have to embrace to win the Republican nomination.

Last week, I was talking with a prominent political figure in South Carolina, working on a post-mortem of the Rudy Giuliani campaign. We moved to Romney and his problems in the state. Romney had poured millions of dollars and lots of time into South Carolina, yet it hadn’t worked out; shortly before the voting, Romney decamped to Nevada in part to distract from his failure in South Carolina. I asked if the simple fact that Romney was from Massachusetts, where Republicans have to lean left to succeed, had anything to do with it. The political insider told me that South Carolinians can relate a lot more to a New Yorker like Giuliani — they visit New York City and like it — than to a Massachusetts candidate like Romney. How could he win there and still be the conservative he appeared to be in South Carolina? “Massachusetts is Ted Kennedy,” the pol told me. “I heard it all the time about Romney: You’re from Massachusetts?”

Massachusetts, the place, meant something not entirely favorable to some conservative voters in South Carolina. But for Republicans across the country, Massachusetts was a symbol — a symbol of the problem at the heart of Romney’s candidacy: he was from one place, ideologically, and he acted as if he were from someplace else.

When Romney tried to present himself as the most conservative of conservative candidates — remember when he said, playing on Paul Wellstone’s old line, that he represented “the Republican wing of the Republican party”? — a lot of conservatives in Iowa and South Carolina and beyond didn’t quite know what to think. When they saw video of him in the fall of 2002 — not that long ago, during a debate in his run for Massachusetts governor — vowing to “preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose” five times in a relatively brief period of time, they didn’t quite know what to think. When they saw video of him almost indignantly saying that “I wasn’t a Ronald Reagan conservative” and “Look, I was an independent during the time of Reagan/Bush; I am not trying to return to Reagan/Bush” — they didn’t quite know what to think. And when they read the letter he wrote saying he would “seek to establish full equality for America’s gay and lesbian citizens” even more than Ted Kennedy, they didn’t quite know what to think.

Romney’s run from his past left a lot of voters asking: Who is this guy? He says he believes certain things deeply now, but he believed other things deeply not that long ago. And each time, it seems, his deeply-held beliefs jibed with what was most advantageous politically.

And now that he has left the Republican race, the question remains. What was Romney thinking? No one outside a very, very tight circle knows. He is an extraordinarily disciplined man, and during the campaign he applied that discipline to making sure that he never said anything too revealing or that might be taken the wrong way. So if you were a reporter, or a supporter, or anyone other than his wife and perhaps his children, and you thought that Romney revealed something special and private to you, you were most likely wrong.

Given that, no one knew what meant the most to Romney. What were the core values that lay deep inside him, things that meant so much that he would give up everything for them? Voters want to know that about a president; they piece together an answer by watching a candidate over time. With Romney it was hard to tell, so they were left to guess. For what it’s worth, my guess is that at the core of Romney’s being is his church and his family; if Romney were asked to surrender all his worldly success for them, he would.

I can’t answer the question any more definitively about John McCain. But if I had to guess, I’d say the things at his core are the United States of America and the defense of its national interest.

Romney made a lot of mistakes that didn’t seem like mistakes at the time. Drawing on his enormous success as a business consultant, he put together an impressively well-organized and professional campaign. That was good. But he never fully understood that the voters were looking for some spark in a candidate that connects him to them. Instead, Romney placed his faith in his magnificent organization and his PowerPoint analyses.

He hired a lot of people, spent millions to build organizations in key states, and then spent millions more for television and radio advertisements. The day after the Iowa caucuses, I dropped by WHO radio in Des Moines, and a top station official told me that Romney had been WHO’s second-biggest advertiser in 2007. (First was Monsanto farm chemicals.) In all, Romney pumped $1 million into WHO’s bank account. In South Carolina recently, a local politico marveled at how much money Romney’s in-state consultants made from the campaign. “Those guys made a mint out of him,” the politico told me. “It’s sinful how much they made.”

As a result of all that spending, Romney ran a campaign on a deficit, deeply in debt. Of course, it was in debt to Romney himself, who put $35 million of his own money into the campaign as of December 31, and likely a lot more since. All that money freed Romney and his team from making some of the tough decisions that other campaigns had to make every day. You could argue either way whether that was good or bad.

Just before the Iowa caucuses, I was at a corporate headquarters outside Des Moines, asking a few questions of Eric Fehrnstrom, the press secretary who usually traveled with Romney. Fehrnstrom looked at Mike Huckabee’s campaign and saw a ragtag lot. “We’re going up against a loose confederation of fair taxers, and home schoolers, and Bible study members, and so this will be a test to see who can generate the most bodies on caucus day,” Fehrnstrom said.

I interrupted for a moment. “Not that there’s anything wrong with any of those groups?” I asked.

“Not that there’s anything wrong, but that’s just a fact,” Fehrnstrom continued. “That’s just where he has found his support. I have a theory about why Mike Huckabee holds public events in Iowa like getting a haircut or going jogging, or actually leaving Iowa and going to California to appear on the Jay Leno show. It’s because he doesn’t have the infrastructure to plan events for him. And when he does do events in Iowa, he goes to the Pizza Ranch, where you have a built-in crowd, so you don’t have to make calls to turn people out. We’re very proud of the organization we have built in Iowa.”

They had reason to be proud; it was a good organization. But in a bigger sense, they just didn’t understand what was going on. Fehrnstrom, like his boss, placed a lot of faith in Romney, Inc. How could a bunch of seat-of-the-pantsers like the Huckabee campaign possibly beat the Romney machine? Well, they could, in Iowa, and McCain could in New Hampshire and South Carolina, and then in Florida and on Super Tuesday. The race was never about the imposing infrastructure Romney had built. It was about that ineffable something that voters look for in candidates. With Huckabee, some of those voters saw an intriguing and refreshing figure. With McCain, a larger number saw someone who wanted, above all, to defend the United States. And with Romney — well, they didn’t quite know what to think.



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1 posted on 02/08/2008 4:02:24 AM PST by monkapotamus
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To: monkapotamus

IMO, Mitt lost because Conservatives did not realize just how this cycle was going to turn out, we sort of thought Fred could win, maybe...kind of...when Fred didn’t win in SC, we were taken aback, then McCain won FL and we got serious, but it was too late by then.

Mitt spent piles of his own money and showed alot more heart then I thought he had, but time caught him.

As well as Huck splitting the vote, we were facing a stacked deck this time around, Huck ran flack for McCain, and McCain has such name recognition that he started with a huge advantage.

Bottom line though, we were sleeping this time around.


2 posted on 02/08/2008 4:07:58 AM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: monkapotamus

Mike Huckabee described Romney succinctly: He looks like the guy that just laid you off, that blank, smiling, *sorry* guy who is already thinking of his three martini lunch as he shakes your hand and gives you ten minutes to clean out your desk. He looks as if his response to 9/11 would be to pick up a phone and dictate a memo to his *girl*.

Once I worked for a man like him. When our office was being evacuated due to a bomb threat on the floor below, my boss insisted that I remain at my desk and type his dictation, until the Managing Partner overruled him and hustled us both out of the building. Down on the ground my boss harassed the police with demands that his *girl* be alloweed back into the building to type his dictation until they threatened him with jail.

That is why I believe Romney lost: because his response in an emergency would be to force someone else to do research until the threat goes away.


3 posted on 02/08/2008 4:10:43 AM PST by Appleby
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To: All

So...we now have a candidate who works w Massachusetts Sen Ted Kennedy....instead of someone merely living in the same state as Kennedy...

The GOP is doomed


4 posted on 02/08/2008 4:11:44 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (A Vote For McCain Is A Vote For Hillary/Obama)
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To: padre35

I agree with your analysis. You would think that McCain’s name recognition would hurt him, seeing as how conservatives rarely mention it in good light, but alas, I’m left scratching my head at why Republicans believe what CNN feeds them.


5 posted on 02/08/2008 4:13:09 AM PST by IMissPresidentReagan ("When you can't make them see the light; make them feel the heat." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: monkapotamus
>>>But he never fully understood that the voters were looking for some spark in a candidate that connects him to them.

Apparently the "spark" this go round is being unabashedly liberal and stabbing conservatives in the back. Romney has the misfortune of converting to conservatism at the wrong time. Well, on a few issues he converted, the rest he was already conservative on, but the DNC and daily Boston Globe hit pieces were obviously effective) The conservatives went down one by one, Tancredo, Hunter, Thompson, and finally Romney. Even 75% of FR supported him the day before super Tuesday.

6 posted on 02/08/2008 4:13:19 AM PST by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Rameumptom

McCain Derangement Syndrome. Save us.


7 posted on 02/08/2008 4:14:33 AM PST by Appleby
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To: monkapotamus

A good rule for the GOP would be that if you are a politician from a state that has not voted Republican in at least two of the last four presidential elections, you are disqualified from running as a presidential candidate. If you can’t help deliver your own state, your chances of running well nationwide are too slim.


8 posted on 02/08/2008 4:16:35 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: monkapotamus

There’s another reason not to vote for McCain. He based his career on picking battles with conservatives knowing he’d get fawning press and the love of those who hate “bickering” in Washington.

A victory by him will send the message to other members of the party that the way to win is to backstab like McCain. It’ll show that enough conservatives will go along “for the good of the party” regardless of what you do to them.

If McCain wins expect to see his way of operating become the norm for Republicans because it will, in fact, be the path to victory.


9 posted on 02/08/2008 4:19:49 AM PST by trenton1776
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To: monkapotamus

Everyone was sitting on their hands waiting for Fred.

Fred never really showed up.

Here’s Obama’s theme song. It will take him straight to the White House.


‘Cult Of Personality’

Look into my eyes, what do you see?
Cult of personality
I know your anger, I know your dreams
Ive been everything you want to be
Im the cult of personality
Like mussolini and kennedy
Im the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights, a nobel prize
The mirror speaks, the reflection lies
You dont have to follow me
Only you can set me free
I sell the things you need to be
Im the smiling face on your t.v.
Im the cult of personality
I exploit you still you love me

I tell you one and one makes three
Im the cult of personality
Like joseph stalin and gandi
Im the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights a nobel prize
A leader speaks, that leader dies
You dont have to follow me
Only you can set you free

You gave me fortune
You gave me fame
You me power in your gods name
Im every person you need to be
Im the cult of personality
Look into my eyes, what do you see?
Cult of personality
I know your anger, I know your dreams
Ive been everything you want to be
Im the cult of personality
Like mussolini and kennedy
Im the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights, a nobel prize
The mirror speaks, the reflection lies
You dont have to follow me
Only you can set me free
I sell the things you need to be
Im the smiling face on your t.v.
Im the cult of personality
I exploit you still you love me

I tell you one and one makes three
Im the cult of personality
Like joseph stalin and gandi
Im the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights a nobel prize
A leader speaks, that leader dies
You dont have to follow me
Only you can set you free

You gave me fortune
You gave me fame
You me power in your gods name
Im every person you need to be
Im the cult of personality


10 posted on 02/08/2008 4:20:43 AM PST by airborne (I'm leaving the Republican Party! They do not represent me or my values!)
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To: Appleby
>>>He looks as if his response to 9/11 would be to pick up a phone and dictate a memo to his *girl*... That is why I believe Romney lost: because his response in an emergency would be to force someone else to do research until the threat goes away.

That's a shallow judge of his character based solely on his looks. Actually he's the CEO who when a co-workers teenage daughter went missing shut down his offices and flew the entire staff to NY to look for her. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/245/ He and his sons also rescued some drowning boaters at Lake Winnipesaki. That's when I knew he was trying to be a little too "Reagensque". If anything his fault is just that he tried too hard.

This go around apparently the qualifications for Pres. are being a back stabbing liberal. He went down because he doesn't meet those standards. The Dinosaur media and DNC hit machine hit him more than any other candidate. They feared him the most and were able to get some Pubbies to believe their lies about him.

11 posted on 02/08/2008 4:21:53 AM PST by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Appleby
That is why I believe Romney lost: because his response in an emergency would be to force someone else to do research until the threat goes away.

Words fail me. Your ignorance is astounding.

12 posted on 02/08/2008 4:24:24 AM PST by txlurker
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To: padre35
Indies and lib dims dominated the GOP primaries through Florida. Conservatives were divided just enough to allow dims and indies to dominate. In Florida, mcinsane won by 5% but 20% of his vote came from “independents”. This was a calculated plan to isolate and marginalize Conservatives. It worked short term but will cost the Party everything it has left. The Republicrat Party is bankrupt... both morally and ideologically.

LLS

13 posted on 02/08/2008 4:24:28 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("There is no conservative alternative in the race. It's just that simple." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: kittymyrib

A better rule would be to simply line up primaries in order of GOP support in the general election. So if a state goes Republican in the general election its primary is moved up to an earlier date, whereas a state (like MA or NY) that never elects a Republican president is moved down on the list. This would help insure that only Republicans are nominating the Republican candidate.


14 posted on 02/08/2008 4:25:03 AM PST by CharacterCounts
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To: monkapotamus
Many of us are Disenfranchised Primary Voters who have not even cast a vote yet!!!
15 posted on 02/08/2008 4:27:53 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
The GOP is doomed

Yep...and that is exactly what the MSM and dims were hoping for.

16 posted on 02/08/2008 4:28:25 AM PST by txlurker
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To: monkapotamus
"When Romney tried to present himself as the most conservative of conservative candidates — remember when he said, playing on Paul Wellstone’s old line, that he represented “the Republican wing of the Republican party”? — a lot of conservatives in Iowa and South Carolina and beyond didn’t quite know what to think. When they saw video of him in the fall of 2002 — not that long ago, during a debate in his run for Massachusetts governor — vowing to “preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose” five times in a relatively brief period of time, they didn’t quite know what to think. When they saw video of him almost indignantly saying that “I wasn’t a Ronald Reagan conservative” and “Look, I was an independent during the time of Reagan/Bush; I am not trying to return to Reagan/Bush” — they didn’t quite know what to think. And when they read the letter he wrote saying he would “seek to establish full equality for America’s gay and lesbian citizens” even more than Ted Kennedy, they didn’t quite know what to think."

A Massachusetts liberal with his record readily available on video can hardly pass himself off as a conservative. His candidacy was like Rudy's: DOA.

Of course, McCain's should be DOA too. Probably will be in the general.

17 posted on 02/08/2008 4:29:26 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: TexasCajun
Many of us are Disenfranchised Primary Voters who have not even cast a vote yet!!!

Depressing isn't it? Half of the country gets to decide for the other half. Isn't there a better way?

18 posted on 02/08/2008 4:29:39 AM PST by txlurker
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To: monkapotamus

Mitt’s failure can be seen as follows
1. A MSM success
2. A GOP/ Conservative leadership failure


19 posted on 02/08/2008 4:30:38 AM PST by IrishMike (I am not a Republican first. I am a conservative.)
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To: monkapotamus

Here’s why Romney lost:

Christian Conservatives don’t vote for Mormons. The Christian Conservative vote went to The Huckster.


20 posted on 02/08/2008 4:30:53 AM PST by bigcat32
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To: monkapotamus
It was about that ineffable something that voters look for in candidates.

Authenticity?

21 posted on 02/08/2008 4:32:15 AM PST by glorgau
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To: Appleby
Mitt is a CEO. He is an executive. He embodies the attributes, talents and demeanor that every successful CEO must have. They are the same attributes and talents that we need in our Presidents.

It is ironic that those same qualities that make CEOs successful make them appear inapproachable and emotionally detached. Mitt, the prototypical CEO never connected viscerally.

It is, imo, more ironic that the most popular candidate on the national stage, Obama, is the polar opposite of Romney...all personality, no executive talent. America's most important election has more in common with American Idol than Lincoln/Douglas.

22 posted on 02/08/2008 4:32:19 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: IMissPresidentReagan
but alas, I’m left scratching my head at why Republicans believe what CNN feeds them.

That's because Republicans are more concerned about the survival of their party rather than the assault on conservatism itself.

And so, out of fear, they rush to one whom they think will "win" for them.

I believe it's time for conservatives in the GOP to stop referring to ourselves as "Republicans" but rather conservatives by bailing out as fast as we can.

If not, then the "R" will consume us.

23 posted on 02/08/2008 4:32:43 AM PST by A2J (Love Jesus...hate "church.")
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To: glorgau
It was about that ineffable something that voters look for in candidates.

Authenticity?

And McCain is just oozing with it right? He is an authentic RINO.

24 posted on 02/08/2008 4:36:34 AM PST by txlurker
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To: monkapotamus

“Why Romney Failed”

Simple. RINO.


25 posted on 02/08/2008 4:37:49 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: monkapotamus

‘Nough said...


26 posted on 02/08/2008 4:39:12 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Appleby
Mike Huckabee described Romney succinctly: He looks like the guy that just laid you off...

Perhaps you and Mike can send out the memo as to who has the right "look" to be president now?

Obama?

27 posted on 02/08/2008 4:39:36 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: A2J

I agree. Conservatives need to stand up and show the GOP that we too are a “force” to be reckoned with. Yesterday I changed my registration from Republican to Independent and will remain as such until either the Republican party stops pandering to moderates who vote for Democrats, or another party comes along that best represents conservatives. I owe no allegiance to any party, only to my ideas.


28 posted on 02/08/2008 4:40:36 AM PST by IMissPresidentReagan ("When you can't make them see the light; make them feel the heat." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Rameumptom; monkapotamus
Romney placed his faith in his magnificent organization and his PowerPoint analyses.

BINGO!

He came across as a soulless, yet competent, CEO. The kind who focuses on the balance sheet but will throw you to the PC wolves just to get along.

Don't get me wrong, Mitt can be likable and would make a better prez than the rest of the field. However, saying he had to lean left in Mass is not enough.

He was still leaning left 3 months into the end of his term when he knew he was leaving office and headed for the national election. (I guess he figured: gain Mass votes, no one will know outside Mass).

He saddled Mass with a lousy "universal health care" for one reason only: to run on it nationally vs the Dems.

On gay marriage and illegals, he became "tough" his last 3 days in office. Talk about insulting my intelligence.

Sorry Mitt, but as smart as you are are, can't switch to "conservative" overnight.

29 posted on 02/08/2008 4:40:44 AM PST by beckaz
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To: monkapotamus
When Romney tried to present himself as the most conservative of conservative candidates — remember when he said, playing on Paul Wellstone’s old line, that he represented “the Republican wing of the Republican party”? — a lot of conservatives in Iowa and South Carolina and beyond didn’t quite know what to think. When they saw video of him in the fall of 2002 — not that long ago, during a debate in his run for Massachusetts governor — vowing to “preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose” five times in a relatively brief period of time, they didn’t quite know what to think. When they saw video of him almost indignantly saying that “I wasn’t a Ronald Reagan conservative” and “Look, I was an independent during the time of Reagan/Bush; I am not trying to return to Reagan/Bush” — they didn’t quite know what to think. And when they read the letter he wrote saying he would “seek to establish full equality for America’s gay and lesbian citizens” even more than Ted Kennedy, they didn’t quite know what to think.

and at what point will Freepers realize this is why those of us from New England knew the emperor had no clothes?

30 posted on 02/08/2008 4:42:49 AM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: padre35
IMO, Mitt lost because Conservatives did not realize just how this cycle was going to turn out,

True... he was Satan Incarnate and then he "magically" morphed into a "better of the evils" Jesus by the same people who swear they will never vote that way.

31 posted on 02/08/2008 4:43:22 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Appleby
That is why I believe Romney lost: because his response in an emergency would be to force someone else to do research until the threat goes away.

That's an interesting bit of analysis. /s

32 posted on 02/08/2008 4:43:36 AM PST by TankerKC (I tried to find more Nixon.)
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To: padre35

A Massachusetts liberal should never have been in the race. Same for a New York liberal. And there’s no way in hell either of them should ever had obtained front runner status. Same goes for the turncoat insane shamnesty dude from Arizona. The Republican poll responders and supporters that elevated these guys are nuts! They should have been disqualified and rejected immediately per their public records. Nothing but an expensive exercise in futility. Unfortunately, no lessons will have been learned.


33 posted on 02/08/2008 4:43:45 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Appleby
The MRDS, has been going around in the media and spread by Huckabee for few months now. Too bad many of us were not immune to it. May be next time around we will not be so easily struck down by it?
34 posted on 02/08/2008 4:45:00 AM PST by Chgogal (When you vote Democrat, you vote Al Qaeda! Ari Emanuel, Rahm's brother was agent to Moore's F9/11.)
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To: Appleby
McCain Derangement Syndrome. Save us.

Call it what you like, noob, but to dismiss the disgust for John McCain felt by many here is real-- as real as the growing realization that George Bush is not the man many of us voted for.

As for "saving" you, this morning it appears that you McCain apologists have done amazingly well in flooding FR, so I don't think you need saving. Or was that just a cute little dismissive? Sort of like, "whatever."

I'm actually amazed at the number of people who are willing to swallow a whole lot of fluids and vote for your man "for the good of the country." I'll give your crazy old Machievellian bastard credit: he correctly underestimated "conservatives" that I had incorrectly overestimated. I won't make the same mistake. For example: I always figured that a fair chunk of the "pry my gun from my cold, dead hands" crowd would be meekly turning in their shootin' irons when the day came, but this morning, I will revise my projection; most of them will walk their pieces to the smelter personally if the Gutless Old Party says it is good for the War on Terror.

I do expect a lower percentage of Paulians would just "lie back and think of America" when it happens. I may be stingy with the compliments today, but I'll give 'em their due.

Mr. niteowl77

35 posted on 02/08/2008 4:45:34 AM PST by niteowl77
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To: monkapotamus

Romney failed b/c he came across as a newly minted conservative. His public persona also is one of a cross between Max Headroom and Joe Isuzu.

No thanks.


36 posted on 02/08/2008 4:45:51 AM PST by sauropod (I'd rather be waterboarded than vote for John McCain)
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To: RaceBannon

Agreed, see my post 29.

Also, he often seemed robotic (though articulate).

Button # 1: Immigration line

Button # 2: Ronald Reagan line

Button # 3: Iraq and terror

etc.

Finally, saw emotion from the guy the day he bowed out.

the last two days


37 posted on 02/08/2008 4:47:03 AM PST by beckaz
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To: Appleby

Welcome to FR.


38 posted on 02/08/2008 4:47:22 AM PST by sauropod (I'd rather be waterboarded than vote for John McCain)
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To: trenton1776
Too bad you might be speaking the truth.

Wouldn't it be ironic if the MSM created McCain (they did) and now they've done such a good job that he takes out their real darling--Hitlery?

39 posted on 02/08/2008 4:48:23 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Appleby
“Mike Huckabee described Romney succinctly: He looks like the guy that just laid you off”

So what. Huckabee looks like a hillbilly. He has no gravitas whatsoever. I wasn't a Mitt supporter, but he looked and acted a whole lot more presidential that Huckabee.

40 posted on 02/08/2008 4:50:07 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Appleby
, Mike Huckabee described Romney succinctly: He looks like the guy that just laid you off, that blank, smiling, *sorry* guy who is already thinking of his three martini lunch as he shakes your hand and gives you ten minutes to clean out your desk.

This is a good example of why I never liked Huckabee. What a crummy little comment.

41 posted on 02/08/2008 4:56:25 AM PST by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: monkapotamus
Why Romney failed.

It's difficult to understand since his conservative credentials go all the way back to August!

42 posted on 02/08/2008 5:02:21 AM PST by CharacterCounts
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To: P-Marlowe; wagglebee

Excellent read about romney ....I recommend it.


43 posted on 02/08/2008 5:03:02 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: CharacterCounts

“It’s difficult to understand since his conservative credentials go all the way back to August!”

LOL! Good one!


44 posted on 02/08/2008 5:03:14 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Appleby

The man shut down an entire company, and chartered planes to fly his entire group of managers and staff to NYC to help find the lost 13 year old daughter of one of his company’s employees.

Your assessment of Romney couldn’t be further from the truth.


45 posted on 02/08/2008 5:04:59 AM PST by bw17
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To: monkapotamus

He was a former Governor of the most liberal state in the union. A state which has produced more politicians distrusted by conservatives that any state that I can think of . Because of that Romney had a lot of explaining to do, and he had to spend too much time on defensive. Jorge Bush, the son of a wealthy politically wired family just like Romney came out of the state of Texas, which has been a very red state lately. Romney was probably a better candidate than Bush, but in politics geography is sometimes everything. Bush’s geography allowed him to burst on the scene with a positive and offensive message and he rarely had to play defense. With Romney, more times than not he was on the defense. In many ways, Romney is an attractive candidate and for my money “looked” as Presidential as anyone in the race. McCain gets to play the conservative in great part because he is from Arizona. Does anyone believe that McCain could not get elected in Massachusetts? If so they are probably the same people who would deny that McCain was not playing footsies with the Democrats and Puff Daschle. The reason McCain is not a Democrat today is not because of his principles or his loyalty but simply because Jeffords trumped him by acting first.


46 posted on 02/08/2008 5:05:56 AM PST by Biblebelter (I will NEVER EVER vote for McCain or any other current Senator.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

The GOP is in dire need of a “cleansing.” I don’t see it getting one unless McCain goes down in flames.

But, I have some hope. I remember conservatives rising from the failed campaign of Ford.


47 posted on 02/08/2008 5:14:07 AM PST by MBB1984
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe

Romney advanced a far left liberal agenda (including the foundation of socialized medicine with state-funded abortion AND homosexual marriage) to an extent that Massachusetts liberal ‘Rats NEVER dreamed possible.


48 posted on 02/08/2008 5:14:38 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Appleby
Mike Huckabee described Romney succinctly: He looks like the guy that just laid you off

And Mike Huckabee looks like the sympathetic/angry pastor who shows up the work site as you are departing and says, “vote for me, vote for me.” He doesn’t have a job to offer, or even an idea. But if you want, you can be a free volunteer for his campaign.
49 posted on 02/08/2008 5:19:06 AM PST by ChessExpert (Conservatism first. I may be a maverick Republican come November.)
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To: bigcat32

Not just CC’s. There is a lot of people who will never vote for a Mormon - on the other hand they will never admit to anyone. I predicted this months ago.


50 posted on 02/08/2008 5:22:10 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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