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Was Dwight D. Eisenhower a liberal
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Posted on 02/08/2008 7:15:11 AM PST by meandog
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Ike appointed Earl Warren to the Supreme Court. He had the highest tax rates ever on capital gains and earned income. He integrated the schools. He proposed the largest public works project since the CCC (interstate highway system). He believed in welfare. He opposed the "military industrial complex." Yet, he is also remembered for being a pretty good president...I am posting this because Ike reminds me a lot of John McCain
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:15:29 AM PST
by
meandog
To: meandog
Harry Truman was probably more conservative than Ike.
To: meandog
On the scheme of things, McCain is much more of a small government conservative than either Bush. McCain has serious issues on global warming and immigration, but McCain will be vastly better than either Democrat on 80% of the issues. I am disappointed that McCain is the nominee, but we could have done worse.
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:19:20 AM PST
by
Always Right
(Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
To: meandog
A little unfair to Ike. Supply side theory hadn’t been developed at that point. There was a huge debt from World War II and an ongoing war in Korea. Not a great time to lower taxes if you don’t understand supply side theory . . . which they didn’t in those days. That said, the writer is right in that we conservatives know a lot more than we did then and it doesn’t take a genius (which Ike just might have been actually) to see that a 90% tax rate is too darn high.
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:21:47 AM PST
by
Greg F
(A vote for Huckabee is now a pure vote for a contested convention. Think about it.)
To: traderrob6
JFK was more conservative than Ike. By today’s definitions, JFK is a neocon.
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:22:41 AM PST
by
Always Right
(Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
To: meandog
He was a Keynsian (growth is bad) and could have just as easily ran as a Democrat.
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:23:40 AM PST
by
NeoCaveman
(other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the theater)
To: Always Right
I am disappointed that McCain is the nominee, but we could have done worse.
A lot of people are upset and disappointed. However, the real question is not that we could have done worse, could we have not done better????
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:23:49 AM PST
by
The Forgotten Man
(He works, he votes, generally he prays--but he always pays....)
To: meandog
Ike appointed Earl Warren because he thought he was a conservative. He was very disappointed with Warren’s turn to the left. He integrated the schools because he did not want to defy the Supreme Court. He warned about the military industrial complex, yes... But that sounds like Ron Paul, not John McCain.
“During Ike’s administration, the highest tax bracket was 92% in 1953, and 91% thereafter”
That’s misleading because there were a whole lot more deductions even for the rich in those days. No one paid 92% of their income in taxes. The tax burden is much higher today than it was then, particularly when you consider the state and local taxes. Today, the government eats a much bigger share of our incomes, and it still runs a huge deficit. Eisenhower would be aghast.
I hope you’re not telling us that John McCain is going to resurrect the old welfare system.
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:24:09 AM PST
by
Brilliant
To: meandog
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:25:16 AM PST
by
meandog
(Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 327 and counting! Stay home and get Hillary!)
To: Always Right
"JFK is a neocon" (psst! where is he hiding?) :)
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:25:22 AM PST
by
robomatik
(......uh since fred and duncan are out, i think i need a new tagline. =()
To: meandog
When was the last time you heard of even a Democrat suggesting an expansion of socialized medicine? Ohhh, I dunno. How about every time Monica's ex-boyfriend's wife opens her mouth?
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:26:37 AM PST
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: meandog
So, your rationale is that because Ike was a liberal in office and McCain is alot like Ike, that we conservatives should suck it up and wear our "I like McCain" campaign buttons?
LOL!!!
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:26:41 AM PST
by
TADSLOS
(Estoy Juan McCain y apruebo este mensaje!)
To: NeoCaveman
To: meandog He was a Keynsian (growth is bad) and could have just as easily ran as a Democrat He nearly did...he was courted by both political parties and was swinging towards the Dems. He probably chose the GOP because of Truman's unpopularity at the time and because Doug McArthur, his old boss who he despised, was a dedicated Republican and entertaining a run himself from Wisconsin--Ike would have loved nothing better than to bested him in his own party.
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:29:05 AM PST
by
meandog
(Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 327 and counting! Stay home and get Hillary!)
To: meandog
My grandfather called Ike a great man to serve under but a pretty mediocre president.
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:29:48 AM PST
by
cripplecreek
(Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
To: meandog
That was then this is now.
I can prove anything I want using numbers and incomplete quotes.
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:31:42 AM PST
by
svcw
(The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
To: TADSLOS
So, your rationale is that because Ike was a liberal in office and McCain is alot like Ike, that we conservatives should suck it up and wear our "I like McCain" campaign buttons?Nope! The country enjoyed its greatest economic expansion (post WW-II had a lot to do with it) after Ike and, despite three recessions, most people who remember the time will tell you that they had it pretty good under Ike...of course, the culture was vastly different.
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:31:55 AM PST
by
meandog
(Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 327 and counting! Stay home and get Hillary!)
To: The Forgotten Man
A lot of people are upset and disappointed. However, the real question is not that we could have done worse, could we have not done better???? If McCain wins, perhaps the answer is no. I think McCain can beat Hillary, not so sure about Obama. Even though Hunter/Thompson/Romney campaigned as more conservative candidates, I am not sure any of them had what it takes to win. Elections are won by keeping the base and winning the middle. McCain has the best chance of doing that.
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:32:45 AM PST
by
Always Right
(Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
To: meandog
Average folks gets most of their income from their jobs, and thus the tax rate on earned income is most important to them. Rich people get most of their income from the appreciation of assets, and thus the tax rate on capital gains is more important to them. There's a point in some articles where the author is so wrong that you quit reading. This is it.
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:34:21 AM PST
by
TankerKC
(I tried to find more Nixon.)
To: robomatik
"JFK is a neocon" (psst! where is he hiding?) :) Last time I checked, right here
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:34:36 AM PST
by
Always Right
(Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
To: robomatik
"JFK is a neocon" (psst! where is he hiding?) :) Last time I checked, right here
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posted on
02/08/2008 7:35:15 AM PST
by
Always Right
(Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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