Skip to comments.Right wants Romney as standard-bearer
Posted on 02/09/2008 1:36:43 PM PST by loreldan
Some 50 stalwarts of the political right privately met with Mitt Romney minutes after he dropped out of the Republican nominating race to discuss the former Massachusetts governor becoming the face of conservatism, as Ronald Reagan became en route to his 1980 election win.
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1976 is to 2008
as 1980 is to 2012
“I have a good feeling about this guy.”
Key word here *FEELING*. Oh, yeah, if it FEELS right, then it must be right—right? Wrong.
Romney has the ability to get a large portion of conservatives excited and enthusiastic about conservatism, and about making America MORE free and MORE prosperous.
McCain has the ability to put everyone, even his supporters, to sleep.
We need new blood in Washington,DC.
That was one of the reasons so many smart and influential conservatives like Limbaugh, Ingraham, Weyrich, Dobson, Santorum, DeMint, Tancredo, Sekulow, Jones III, Beck, etc etc were willing to support Romney.
Unfortunately, Romney's downfall was due to his efforts in 1994 to convince Massachusetts voters that he was not this intolerant, intractable, uber-white Judeo-Christian type of patriarch who ONLY accepts other uber-white male Judeo-Christians....
In other words, he verbally pandered to the homo crowd, and the feminist-abortion crowd by claiming (during that debate with Ted Kennedy) he would respect their views and uphold the law.
Once in office in 2002, he governed quite conservatively, and ended up getting good marks from the national ProLife organizations, and from the NRA, and from fiscal tax-watchdog groups.
Those old YouTube clips were what did him in, helped along by the rabid Romney haters with the American Family Association (?) and by Romney haters here on FR.
I am convinced that Romney is a straight-laced conservative in his private and family life, and would be that way as President of the USA.
This Romney bashing is as bad as the Dems Bush bashing.
These people are way off the reservation.
He's keeping his delegates - that's the difference between suspending his campaign and dropping out.
“This Romney bashing is as bad as the Dems Bush bashing.”
Do you *hate* conservatives? (*taking a line from the mittbots*)
We love Flip, we just hate the sin (liberalism). ;^)
I voted for the guy, but he’s not much of a standard-bearer for those of us on the right.
Do the conservative ‘leaders’ see a problem here:
Super Tuesday voter turnout:
I should hope not; Goldwater wasn't a conservative at all; he was an ex-military warhawk, with numerous deep social flaws. Most notably, his support of the death culture/abortuary industry.
"Goldwater would not have promised Michigan billions to bail them out"
I think that he would have. Any decent president would do all he could to strengthen our auto industry, and stem the flow of flimsy tin death-traps coming in from asia.
Don't fool yourself, a closed mind is a dead mind. Had you looked at the character of the man you would find that his conversion to Constitutional conservative was foremost in his mind. You were stuck on his past and never took the time to realize that any flip-flop he explained when he was wrong. That is the same way Regan was. Look where you and your kind have put us now. This great man was stuck in a State the was far left, and any compromise he made was for the good of the public even if it was not perfect. Closed minds are dangerous. If you had told the whole truth I would have respected you more, but snippets don't get it.
Yeah, so they can break out the “I will defend Roe v. Wade and Gay Rights to the last drop of my blood.” You Tube videos again.
Approval Rating for Congress = 22%.
An experienced corporate executive, former governor and self made multi-millionaire like Romney isn't good enough for the republican party to run as their candidate for president.
Let's get some more incompetent, whining RINO Senators to run instead.
Pissant, you've got no room to talk about being fooled.
You got bamboozled by Hunter, just like I did. That BS artist came away with $1200 of my money, but never will he get another penny. It's time to admit that Hunter and Thompson were the biggest phonies of the campaign. Did you get his Hunter 52 email yesterday? Backed out but still begging for money; whatta guy!
Romney, on the other hand, has been very honest with us, even when it wasn't going to make him look good. He is the only candidate in this campaign besides Ron Paul, with the moral character needed from a president. All the others failed; even Tancredo.
not funny, true. I heard Laura Ingraham talk about this. She says he is “the conservative’s conservative”, AND SHE IS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Coulter, Limbaugh, Weyrich, Hannity, Dobson, Tancredo, and all the other rock-solid conservatives who were impressed with Romney were not simply having hallucinations.
Romney IS a very conservative, straight-laced morals-based man.... especially in his private family life and business dealings.
His troubles in 2008 were due to his verbal efforts in 1994 (and a little in 2002) to convince Massachusetts voters that he was not this intolerant white-males-only type of person that many associate with Mormons.
In other words, he made a few pandering statements during a campaign debate (vs Kennedy) in hopes of convincing women voters that he didn't want to keep them 'barefoot and pregnant' .......
He also tried to tell voters that he didn't want to make homosexuality illegal ....and that he was a nice tolerant man.
In 2008, some conservatives are so adamant in their opposition to homosexuality and abortion that they would never in a zillion years consider making such pandering statements.
Romney is a more cerebral type of conservative.... and feels the need to express the fact that he does not hate those who are different.
THAT is why some conservatives hate Romney so bad now.
As for myself, I agree wholeheartedly with Ann Coulter who proclaimed Romney to be a solid conservative... even though she also admitted he made some dumb statements in the past.
But that's just what they were, Coulter said --- 'statements.'
When you analyze his entire record of governance, Coulter added, Romney was quite conservative.
First, I don't believe that. There certainly is no other candidate, or potential candidate that comes close to his cognitive ability.
Second, those that didn't run probably didn't because of the skeletons in their closets (and this was likely Thompson's problem too)
ROMNEY doesn’t represent ME (as a true) Reagan-Goldwater Conservative!!
Flunked Geometry, huh?
Yea, they're your next door neighbors.
Mitt Romney’s isn’t a conservative. He just plays one in his TV commercials. He was a flaming LIBERAL as governor of Massachusetts. That is his record. Everything else is just rhetoric and campaign talk.
His pandering is what sealed the deal for me. He promised billions to bailout Detroit while campaigning in Michigan. At least McCain was honest and took the unpopular path and told them that many jobs would NEVER return. Then he promised to provide federal hurricane insurance to all Floridians. At least he only promised $20 billion or so to Detroit. If Florida had another year, like say 2004, the costs to cover the entire state to the federal government could be hundreds of billions or even a trillion dollars. Again, McCain said he was opposed and took the unpopular position.
I hate politicians who will say anything to anybody in order to curry favor. It’s what Democrats do.
The whole truth is that he is pandering lib. Mitt “say anything”. It wasn’t like his governorship was 20 years ago. It ended in 05. He also lied through his teeth, constantly.
I can identify with that. I actually at one time had him ranked below Huckabee, which seems laughable now, but that was when I was a Fred-head and hadn't looked much at their records and qualifications. Turns out Huckabee is the phony and Mitt has a lot going for him. I would love to see him get the VP slot.
“Romney, I truly believe, made pandering statements during that 1994 debate just to convince the Massachusetts voters that he wasn’t this uber-white male who only accepts other uber-white Judeo-Christian males.”
What was he like before that debate? Well he switched his registration to Republican a few months before the debate and he voted for Paul Tsongas in 92.
Here is the kicker, this is where his political donations were going before that debate where you said that he was only pandering.
Willard Mitt Romney donated $250 in 1992 to then-U.S. Rep. Dick Swetts (D New Hampshire) successful re-election campaign. The one-term congressman served another term before losing to Republican Charles Bass in 1994. Two years later, Swett ran unsuccessfully against Republican Bob Smith for one of the Granite States U.S. Senate seats.
In 1992, the former Massachusetts governor and current Republican presidential contender , also donated $250 to Rep. John J. La Falce (D New York) and $1,000 to Douglas Delano Anderson, an unsuccessful Democratic primary candidate for the U.S. Senate seat held by Utah Republican Jake Garn, who retired that year.
So, between July 1989 and October 1993, Romney exclusively financed these three Democrats.
Bullsh*t. Hunter never made one false claim, never had any flip flops, never pandered.
Hunter’s biggest lie was that he was running for president. Yesterday’s email proves that.
Conservatives work hard to convert people to the conservative view.
Then, when someone converts or becomes a stronger conservative other conservatives castigate them, call them names and refuse to accept them.
Is ideological purity at birth an absolute requirement?
Romney says he has become a more solid conservative over the years and is booed.
McCain says he left most of his leftist ways behind and became a better conservative after Super Tuesday when he realized he needed our votes and some conservatives are converted to McCainites after one speech.
Haley Barbour. Bobby Jindal. Rick Santorum. Jeff Sessions. We have a long way to go before we have to settle for liberal Mitt.
Romney would have gone NOWHERE without his money. Absolutely nowhere. He outspent everybody combined on the GOP side and still couldn’t win. He was not a heavyweight candidate. He benefited from the weak GOP field as much as McCain or Huckabee. None of them are top-tier candidates, in my opinion.
I thought Jeb Bush should have run in 2008. Too bad his brother messed things up so badly as to make it almost impossible for that to happen. The idea of Fred Thompson sounded better than the actual thing. I still respect the record that Fred put together in the Senate, though. He just didn’t catch fire at all. Frist was taken out long ago. There really aren’t any other heavyweights that I could think of as possibilities.
Your opinions sound like “sharing time” in the second grade.
Jeb Bush is a real pandering globalist liberal. He scuttled his chances at the presidency when his spine melted during the Terri Schiavo murder.
"Could be Reagan" connotes a "down the road possibility". It is not the same as "calling him Reagan".
I think it's important to put him on people's radar screen so that they can begin to size him up early. Many people have never even heard of him. I suggest that you take the time to read the interview at my link in post #22.
Terri Schiavo? Gimme a break. That’s all you have?
Romney is a terrible candidate and I’m glad he lost. His supporters are pathetic. They can’t even see the hypocrisy.
“Second, those that didn’t run probably didn’t because of the skeletons in their closets (and this was likely Thompson’s problem too)”
I think that a lot of people looked at Romney’s treasure chest and didn’t see a way to challenge it, as it was, his spending 40 to 50 million dollars of his own money did buy up a lot of real estate, it couldn’t purchase him the gold medal but it did buy him the bronze.
Try to imagine how his campaign would have looked without his ability to pay his way out of the dead spots during the campaign.
I still think Romney is a phony conservative of convenience. And I don’t trust him on Second Amendment issues.
This would be a good deal easier to believe, were it not for the unpleasant fact that the present day GOP contender is a man slavering to forcibly cram another 30,000,000+ illegal aliens down our collective gullets, simply so that his lawn maintenance crew and his pool boy will have someone to chat with on the weekends. ;)
“When you analyze his entire record of governance, Coulter added, Romney was quite conservative.”
I think the conservative purists played a big part in smearing Romney, who was/is the best Republican candidate for president since Reagan. Sure he hedged some statements while running for office in the nation’s most liberal state - and he won the election for governor. Many candidates for statewide office (Reagan, Clinton, Gore, Romney and others) hedged some positions, then clarified those positions when running for president nationally. It’s a fact of political life, whether the purists like or not.
I hope Romney will stay in the public eye and become the voice of conservatism until 2012, and maybe by then all the conservative purists and narrow minds will have learned Romney is a true conservative, and also our best candidate since RWR. Take a look at how he’s lived his life, and that will be a good place to start. Then listen to what he says about how he would govern as president.
I have a good feeling about this guy. Cant wait till he runs again!
“So do I. A Thompson/Romney ticket or Romney/Thompson ticket would have been just fine with me!”
I agree. They would both be excellent choices.
So conservatives now support socialized medicine,
gay marriage, and the removal of voting from citizens (all
Romney’s ‘treasure chest’ is nothing compared to what Soros directed into McSlime’s coffers in December and January.
He won’t be there for the general election though; he’s a Hillery fan now.
“What was he like before that debate? Well he switched his registration to Republican a few months before the debate and he voted for Paul Tsongas in 92.”
And for someone living in Massachusetts, that took real courage. Much easier to just run as Democrat there, and much better chance of winning. But he changed to Republican and still won the governorship, then governed as conservatively as he could in uber-liberal Mass.
This is from the Onion, right ?
It’s even funnier with all them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!’s tacked on the end.
(Yeah, I'm sure there's a mask available somewhere)
If you can figure some way to get them into the process, I agree.
What does the source of the money have to do with anything? He could have spent voters money instead although I don't see that the source should matter.
Nevertheless, when Romney stepped aside he had more wins and more delegates than anyone except McCain.
In fact, he had more than Huckabee and all the other candidates added together.
As for Jeb Bush..... He is just as big a pandering RINO and open border advovcate as his brother and John McCain - maybe bigger.
You know, when he told Katie Couric 3 months ago that a "parent" of an otherwise adoptable surplus frozen embryo (in fact he used the word "adoption") could be "donated to research" and concluded that was perfectly "acceptable," then it shows he's still got quite a ways to go...ESPECIALLY since he said the embryonic stem cell issue was THE VERY ISSUE that "converted" him to the pro-life side.
You can't get more "pro-choice" then a politician saying that a "parent" can acceptably "donate" their offspring to be "dissected" to death.
The fact that this doesn't bother many pro-Mitt FReepers tells me a lot about their own priorities about life in the womb.
Romney ignored the Mass Constitution.
Perhaps he should have the opportunity to destroy
the US Constitution, too. NOT.
“I thought Jeb Bush should have run in 2008. “
The last person I’d want to see as a candidate. Both his father and his brother managed to fritter away Republican strength and momentum build up by others who came before them. After GHWB, we got Slick Willy, a virtually unknown from Arkansas defeating a sitting president.
Now, who knows who we’ll get after Jorge and Rove have managed to fritter away the most heavily Republican Congress since Eisenhower, and all the patriotism and support that followed 9/11, and also managed to split the party by pushing for years their half-witted, Tex-Mex illusions and amnesty for illegals, and the illusion of all the Republican voters they thought it would bring to the party.
As Peggy Noonan said, the Bushes are wastrels, who throw away political capital as if they earned it (they didn’t).
Stay out ‘da Bushes.
What, you gonna sue us for using your material here?
Actually, the day he suspended his campaign he had the Silver. He was second in delegates and in popular votes. In fact, Romney’s popular votes were only a few percentage points behind McCain. Problem was that McCain took had the majority of winner take all states.