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Zogby: Hillary Loses to McCain
NewsMax ^ | Feb. 13, 2008 | Staff

Posted on 02/13/2008 7:37:26 PM PST by jdm

Barack Obama has gained strength in prospective general election match-ups against Republicans John McCain and Mike Huckabee, while Hillary Clinton does not fare as well, a new nationwide Zogby Interactive poll shows.

The online survey shows that Obama would defeat both McCain and Huckabee, while Clinton would lose to McCain and only defeat Huckabee by a small margin.

Clinton struggles among political independents, trailing McCain by a wide margin and Huckabee by a slim margin in that demographic, the survey shows. Against both men, she wins less than 80% of her own party. However, she does better among Democrats than either McCain or Huckabee does among Republicans. Huckabee wins just 70% support in a match-up against Clinton, while McCain wins 72% of the GOP support against her.

Obama has much stronger Democratic Party support, winning 87% backing of the Democrats when pitted against Huckabee, and 84% of the Democratic support against McCain. Among independents, Obama leads McCain by a 46% to 33% edge and Huckabee by a 48% to 31% advantage.

Among men, Obama narrowly loses to McCain but narrowly leads Huckabee. Among women, he leads both Republicans by margins that are wider than the advantage Clinton enjoys over McCain and Huckabee. However, Clinton loses to both McCain and Huckabee among men.

Obama held wides leads over the GOPers among younger voters. Among older voters, Obama held a narrow lead over Huckabee, but trailed McCain. Clinton led Huckabee and McCain among younger voters, but trailed them both among voters age 65 and older.

The online survey included 7,468 likely voters nationwide. It was conducted Feb. 8-11, 2008, and carries a margin of error of +/- 1.2 percentage points.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; mccain; zogby
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1 posted on 02/13/2008 7:37:29 PM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

We know how meaningful polls taken eight months in advance have a tendency of being!


2 posted on 02/13/2008 7:38:54 PM PST by eclecticEel (oh well, Hunter 2012 anyone?)
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To: jdm

Why should this surprise anyone?


3 posted on 02/13/2008 7:38:57 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: jdm

As far as I’m concerned, the only bright spot in this entire fetid steaming pile is the downfall of HRC. It ain’t enough, but it’s something.


4 posted on 02/13/2008 7:40:52 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (We've checked, and all your zeroes are OK. We're still working on your ones.)
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To: jdm

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

This is baloney. There is a lot of water that has to flow under the bridge before we start fantasizing to this level.


5 posted on 02/13/2008 7:41:20 PM PST by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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To: jdm

First, no offense jdm, but Zogby was double-digits off on Super Tuesday on a few democrat races. And an “on line” poll? Maybe, but he needs to show some “good calls” before Zogby regains his former lustre as a pollster.


6 posted on 02/13/2008 7:41:32 PM PST by bajabaja
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To: jdm

We are being manipulated, folks. Ignore these things. Keep your own ear to the ground.


7 posted on 02/13/2008 7:41:58 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: jdm

Thi sis very bizarre in that it does not tell us what the actual numbers are as to how much McCain loses to Obama by.


8 posted on 02/13/2008 7:42:40 PM PST by bilhosty (JINDAL IN '12)
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To: jdm

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1970022/posts


9 posted on 02/13/2008 7:43:33 PM PST by gitmogrunt (........................McCain for President!!!!!.....(of Albania))
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To: jdm

STFU Zogby.


10 posted on 02/13/2008 7:44:38 PM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: jdm

It’s a long way to November!...Stick the pole where the sun don’t shine!


11 posted on 02/13/2008 7:46:58 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: jdm

at this point, she could probably lose to Ron Paul


12 posted on 02/13/2008 7:47:48 PM PST by television is just wrong
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
And there's that typical conservative "glass is half full" kind of attitude we're known for.

Thanks for the post. If we never see a Clinton visiting the White House again, we'll have salvaged a big plus out of this otherwise pitiful election!

13 posted on 02/13/2008 7:48:38 PM PST by willgolfforfood
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To: jdm

Zogby’s track racord has been dismal this election cycle. He is usually way off the mark. With the defections of Conservatives, McCain doesn’t stand the slightest chance in November.


14 posted on 02/13/2008 7:48:59 PM PST by balls
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To: bajabaja
When was the last time Zogby was right on any of his predictions polls?
15 posted on 02/13/2008 7:50:20 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: bajabaja
When was the last time Zogby was right on any of his predictions polls?
16 posted on 02/13/2008 7:51:16 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: jdm
The online survey...

Say no more.

17 posted on 02/13/2008 7:54:07 PM PST by zeebee
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To: jdm

hasn’t zogby blown a lot of the primaries?


18 posted on 02/13/2008 7:54:33 PM PST by Duke Nukum (I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards.)
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To: jdm
ZOGBY: ROMNEY, OBAMA TAKE LEAD IN CALIFORNIA (2-5-08)

Barack Obama has taken the lead over Hillary Clinton in California in a new poll, and Mitt Romney is ahead of John McCain there.

The poll showed Obama held a comfortable lead over Clinton, with a 49 percent support to Clinton’s 36 percent, a major turnaround in a matter of days in a state that holds more than one fifth of the delegates candidates are seeking to win the nomination.

The Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll released Tuesday showed GOP presidential hopeful Mitt Romney with a 7 percentage point advantage over Arizona Sen. McCain even as McCain held strong leads in New York in New Jersey.

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/02/05/poll-obama-ahead-of-clinton-in-california-romney-over-mccain/

19 posted on 02/13/2008 7:56:22 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: jdm

Zog hasn’t gotten a poll right for close to 10 years.


20 posted on 02/13/2008 7:57:56 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: jdm

The Arab pollster likes Obama and gives him the lead, months before the election!! What a shocker!


21 posted on 02/13/2008 7:59:11 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: jdm
Big deal. Assuming for arguments sake this poll is accurate it only means one Socialist will defeat another.
22 posted on 02/13/2008 7:59:35 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: jdm
LOL - IMO, Even Clinton, with her off the charts negatives will wipe the floor with McCain.

If you doubt this I offer the post-election news segments of last evening. The first was of Obama at a rally acknowledging his victories and the mood was energized, populated with voters of every stripe and, of course, the speech was well articulated and rousing.

This was followed by McCain who was acknowledging his wins. It had all of the excitement of a funeral, without the fun. He was surrounded by a bunch of Rep dinosaurs and he delivered a completely uninspired speech that was poorly read from the prompter.

It was disheartening and, frankly, creepy in the contrast. It made me want to turn it off but, like the train wreck it was, I couldn't tear myself away from such a disastrous presentation.

IMO This is yet another one of these self-serving Polls designed to affect the outcomes and direct peoples thinking as opposed to being an accurate gauge of reality. This election cycle is full of these and there are way too many and way to frequent. I just cannot see how McCain can win in November unless both Dems just quit and go away.

23 posted on 02/13/2008 8:00:25 PM PST by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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To: jdm

The beauty of the Democrat battle is the end will result in a great deal of bitter feelings among the party loyalists. If Obama gets the nod the Latinos won’t vote for him. If Hillary gets the nod, black Americans won’t kick down the doors to vote for her.
Whoever wins the election, the nation loses because both parties are offering the same thing, liberal insanity.
The final words of a man on his death bed, to his son, says it best. “They’re all in it together.”


24 posted on 02/13/2008 8:00:43 PM PST by em2vn
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To: jdm

The White House is moving left.

The only question is “how far?”


25 posted on 02/13/2008 8:01:34 PM PST by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be Exorcised.)
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To: jdm

The next POTUS will be Obama. He will take at least 40 states. McAmnesty will be our Mondale.


26 posted on 02/13/2008 8:02:36 PM PST by Grunthor (Unlike the Republican Party, this conservatives' principles MEAN SOMETHING!)
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To: Duke Nukum
And all this time I thought Zogby told us Tooty Frooty Roody was supposed to be the only wimmer.

yitbos

27 posted on 02/13/2008 8:05:38 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. - Ayn Rand")
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To: Grunthor

Only if Republicans fail to unite behind them. If they don’t, expect Al Sharpton as a member of the Supreme Court.


28 posted on 02/13/2008 8:06:34 PM PST by Bushwacker777
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To: jdm
John McCain: The Early Years
29 posted on 02/13/2008 8:08:21 PM PST by feedback doctor ("I have met Ronald Reagan, and you Mike Huckabee . . .are Jimmy Carter.")
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To: Grunthor
"The next POTUS will be Obama. He will take at least 40 states."

yitbos

30 posted on 02/13/2008 8:10:48 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. - Ayn Rand")
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To: Bushwacker777

“Only if Republicans fail to unite behind them.”

Too many of us look at the mans’ behavior over the past several years and see no reason to reward him for it.


31 posted on 02/13/2008 8:25:28 PM PST by Grunthor (Unlike the Republican Party, this conservatives' principles MEAN SOMETHING!)
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To: jdm
NO offense does anymore believe “landslide Zogby “ anymore !
32 posted on 02/13/2008 8:45:11 PM PST by ncalburt
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To: bruinbirdman

Ugh, is that his wife?


33 posted on 02/13/2008 8:45:33 PM PST by Grunthor (Mccain praised pro-illegal protests saying that they could force the laws to be liberalized)
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To: jdm
...Against both men, she wins less than 80% of her own party...Obama has much stronger Democratic Party support...84% of the Democratic support against McCain...5 percentage points or so is "much stronger"? - if you say so, Z......
34 posted on 02/13/2008 8:46:15 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: jdm

In Virginia, Hillary whipped McCain like Obama whipped her.


35 posted on 02/13/2008 8:49:13 PM PST by Darnright
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To: jdm

Zogby is smoking Hash again..


36 posted on 02/13/2008 8:50:11 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: jdm

an ONLINE poll with a ONE POINT TWO margin of error!???! Gimme a fat EFFING break here! Online polls, as everything on the internet, are always underrepresented females, older folks, poorer peeps, blacks etc.
With online polls, you CAN NOT say anything valid about the general pop. just about those who are connected. Last i checked, still 40 percent is not internet savvy. also, they could be canadians or other foreigners.
And what about those of us who just plain work too much to participate in online polling?

McCain can’t actually lose the white house. because around 3 in ten democrats say they’ll vote mccain if their nominee loses. Add the racist and sexist Dems to that, and President McCainer is a nobrainer.


37 posted on 02/13/2008 8:50:26 PM PST by QillDaRepsAndCons (Qill means love in Swahili)
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To: Grunthor
"Ugh, is that his wife?"

One of his "COMMUNEity organizers". Hussein breaks out the big smiles for communist Che worshipers who make phone calls for his campaign.

yitbos

38 posted on 02/13/2008 8:58:45 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. - Ayn Rand")
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To: jdm
Just because you may lead by a few pts. on the national level, does not mean that you win the election. It is a state by state race. And me thinks, once the nation actually hears Obama articulate and actual plan, MANY mods are going to think he is nuts and MANY conservatives (and yes even the ones here) are going to think he is down right scary.

Lord, you are in control!!! How about we ALL do a lot of praying between now and Nov.

39 posted on 02/13/2008 9:01:41 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (Lest anyone forgot, WE ARE AT WAR!!!!! NOW IS NOT THE TIME IN HISTORY TO TEACH THE PARTY A LESSON!!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

If we have to have one of them, I’d rather have osamabama - she’s been in the White House already and knows the ropes...


40 posted on 02/13/2008 9:04:36 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Even my tagline is sad....I can't stand ANY of the candidates!)
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To: balls
"With the defections of Conservatives, McCain doesn’t stand the slightest chance in November."

Bears repeating.

41 posted on 02/13/2008 9:05:05 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: balls

And then there’s Newt’s recent comment re the 13 million who turned out to vote in the dem primaries vs. the 8 million who turned out for the republican primaries. I think he called this “ominous.” I would agree.


42 posted on 02/13/2008 9:19:37 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Grunthor

A brilliant observation


43 posted on 02/13/2008 9:20:02 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: Bonaparte

I turned out for the Democrat primary, myself. The GOP didn’t have any meaningful choices left by the time this got to Virginia, so the opportunity to help Hillary lose was too tempting to pass up.

I think one thing we are seeing with Obama’s popularity is a lot of people who normally turn out GOP voting for him to put an end to the Clinton era for good.

As far as McCain goes... if he wants a Republican to be President in 2009, he’ll step aside and support someone who can credibly earn the respect of all factions of the party. And if he doesn’t want a Republican to win, I don’t see why I should either.


44 posted on 02/13/2008 9:58:58 PM PST by FR Class of 1998 (Government vending: Insert Paycheck and Press '4' for English)
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To: Bonaparte

“”And then there’s Newt’s recent comment re the 13 million who turned out to vote in the dem primaries vs. the 8 million who turned out for the republican primaries. I think he called this “ominous.” “”
Dude, nothing ominous about it. Despite the fact that many Reps see that Obama is the better candidate, they will not vote for him, I hope coz he’s a Dem, but I think coz he’s black, too.
Reps like Obama way more than Mccain, no doubt. Doesn’t mean squat. All this “VOTER TURNOUT” bull crap is a very, very nice distraction for Dems to focus on. Come November, reps are gonna be at the voting boots in droves. 52 mill voted for bush, they’re not all gonna stay home.
We’re all gonna scream It’s a Miracle when mccain wins but it’s a nobrainer. america CANNOT go from bush to obama, however moderate he might be.
Check out a REAL pollster

http://www.gallup.com/poll/104290/McCain-Holds-Own-Against-Obama-Clinton.aspx


45 posted on 02/13/2008 10:03:23 PM PST by QillDaRepsAndCons (Qill means love in Swahili)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
"As far as I’m concerned, the only bright spot in this entire fetid steaming pile is the downfall of HRC. It ain’t enough, but it’s something."

God is that ever the truth. Earlier today while reading a McCain thread I thought about a 10cc song from the early 70's called "I Want To Be A Boss"

46 posted on 02/13/2008 10:19:31 PM PST by VR-21
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To: jdm

I think Obama as President would be good for the country in the long run.

he will suspend all surveillance of terrorists, but then he’d have to restart it after a few cities are lost to a nuke attack.

He’ll let the Bush tax cuts expire, bringing on a recession, and hatred for himself. (Most of the people voting for Obama are only vaguely aware of the Bush tax cuts, and totally unaware that they are going to expire.)

He’ll pull out of Iraq, but the loss of a few cities to a nuke will make that move unpopular in short order.

He’ll bring on inflation, gigantic new entitlements, and throw open the borders.

He’ll be more leftist than Carter, and more unsuccessful. He’ll bring on a conservative reaction unlike any that’s been seen before.

Right now, a real reform of the Republican Party is impossible, because the leadership have been in Washington too long, and are corrupt.


47 posted on 02/13/2008 11:00:26 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: jdm

I am miles away from being a political analyst but even I can give you a long list of why this poll is meaningless and probably ass backwards.


48 posted on 02/14/2008 3:16:49 AM PST by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: Grunthor

Ronald Reagan would vote for McCain, just like he sucked it up and supported Gerry Ford, something that Michael Reagan pointed out a few days ago. He didn’t like Ford or his kind of “conservatism,” but he knew it was the right thing to do to try to keep the dems out of power.

Everybody throws Reagan’s name around like it’s sacred, but nobody wants to follow his lead.


49 posted on 02/14/2008 3:19:42 AM PST by toddlintown (Ronald Reagan would vote for McCain, just like he sucked it up and supported Gerry Ford.)
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To: lightman

The White House is moving left.

The only question is “how far?”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

If left means West it will wind up on Santa Catalina island.


50 posted on 02/14/2008 3:20:17 AM PST by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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