Don't know but it might make them...
with worry at what's coming next.
Posted on 02/17/2008 5:05:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Dogubayazit (Turkey’s Iran-Armenian Border) • For the first time in the seven decade-long history of the search for the legendary Noah’s Ark, a Turkish-Hong Kong exploration team on Tuesday came out with “material evidence”, to prove that the Ark was nestled on Mount Ararat, Turkey’s highest mountain peak bordering Iran and Armenia.
A panel of experts, comprising Turkish authorities, veteran mountaineers, archaeologists, geologists and members of Hong Kong-based Noah’s Ark Ministries International, also displayed an almost one-metre-long peice of petrified wood before the media and specially invited international experts.
The experts claimed it to be a part of a long structure they had unearthed during their February-August 2007 exploration. “It is for the first time in the history of the Ark search that an exploration team is getting a material evidence and graphic documentation. This makes it not only a the significant breakthrough in the Ark-search, but one that is supported with the most substantial evidence in recent history,” the panel said.
The revelation is expected to open up a fresh chapter in the ongoing debates in the scientific community on the search for Noah’s Ark.
Narrating the genesis of their exploration on Mount Ararat, the mount which has a direct reference in Holy Quran (Mount Judi) and Bible, the panel said the search team had made several foiled attempts before unearthing the evidence at an altitude of 4,500-metres of the estimated 5,165 metre volcanic mountain.
“The structure was discovered in the interiors of an unusual cave. The 11.5m wide and 2.6m high white wooden texture was revealed after removing thick layers of volcanic ash on the cave wall,” panel members said at a press conference.
One of the underlying issues in the search for the Ark is the proper identification of its wood fragments. A petrographic examination carried out by the Applied Geoscience Centre of the Department of Earth Sciences, University of Hong Kong, identified the object as a petrified wooden structure, the panel said.
“Some of the big holes found on the structure indicate the locations where branches used to grow on tree. In places, original holes are partly or completely replaced by individual minerals and crystalline materials that can be found in rock materials,” said Dr Ahmet Ozbek, a panel member, who is also a faculty of Geology Engineering Kahramanmara Suctcu Imam University.
Dismissing the possibilities of the structure being wood that could appear naturally around the discovery site, Professor Oktay Belli, director, Eurasian Archaeology Institute, University of Istanbul, said researches have proved that there was no vegetation on Mount Ararat ever since 2000BC, because of the asperities of Ararat’s climate.
Talking to The Peninsula, Cemalettin Demircioglu, Dogubayazit City Governor, under whose jurisdiction the mount is located, said the civic body will invite more international experts to conduct further scientific studies on Mount Ararat.
“History has more than one times corroborated the legendary evidence that the ark was nestled on Mount Ararat. We will introduce the latest findings to the world and continue the scientific study. All interested scientists and NGOs can join our missions” he said. However, he said, those who are involved in the project must ensure the findings are not used politically, religiously, or for any vested interest.
Located in the Far Eastern Turkey, Ararat is great prize for mountain collectors. Ark sighting has often been reported from this mountain. The observation of Vessel-shaped features in aerial photograph of Ararat had caused a stir in the late 1950’s. However, this is the first time an exploration team is coming out with “material evidence”.
TV show about this a few years ago.
I thought this has been materially proven some years back. I saw a TV segment which had photos, etc.
AJNTSA
...again?
I suppose it *can* be true, although I hesitate to say it is. It’s amazing that, in the 21st Century, a place could be so remote that it’s resistant to archaeological study.
On the other hand, that thrill-seeking pilot Mr. Fossett was just declared dead after being lost (presumably) in a small plane crash in the United States. Just shows it’s a big planet where it can be hard to find stuff.
Wow, another one...who would have guessed Noah commanded a fleet????
We knew this a long time ago... oh, and the Bible said so.
It’s going to take some dinosaur bones to begin to impress science. Finding a piece of petrified wood on Mount Ararat is hardly proof of the existence of the supernatural.
14Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.
15And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.
16A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.
-Genesis 6
Well, I wonder if they can analyize the petrified wood sample and tell whether or not it is gopher wood?
On the other hand, that thrill-seeking pilot Mr. Fossett was just declared dead after being lost (presumably) in a small plane crash in the United States. Just shows it’s a big planet where it can be hard to find stuff.
Fossett was lost somewhere near my hometown, and I can understand why. Very remote and sparley populated here. There are many parts of the world that, though mapped by geographers and satellite have never been explored.
“Can this be true? And if so, will it make some atheists heads explode?”
Nope, the Eastern Barbarians have made sure no atheist heads will explode. They have RULES!
“However, he said, those who are involved in the project must ensure the findings are not used politically, religiously, or for any vested interest.”
Ah, how many millions of years does it take to petrify wood?
Let me be the first to call bullsh*t.
If this proves to be the real thing, it’s one amazing development. Could the real ark have lasted this long without decomposing?
Yes, I saw your posts on the Fossett thread. I think that it’s good, in a way, that things happen that show us that we have very limited knowledge of the earth, and even more limited knowledge of the rest of Everything.
Mt. ARARAT—in exile
Don't know but it might make them...
How many cubits is that?
LOL no scientific questions allowed!
It would be very difficult for me to believe that it could.
So how do we exactly do a gopher wood test?
about 2
Around 2.2 cubits. One cubit is about 18 inches. A meter is 39.37 inches.
Depends how frequently Janet Reno, Hillary Clinton, or Helen Thomas had been in proximity.
Surely any and every ancient piece of wood must be the Ark.. nevermind that a wooden boat of the size of the Ark has never been documented anywhere besides the Bible, much less been found.
Someone smack me!
They didn't just list the Koran first!
I am pretty sure they don’t know what gopher wood was.
susie
This is news? I mean everybody knows that.
Was it covered with lead based paint?
Thanks, I agree. The area where Fossett disapeared is as remote as the N.C. frontier was in the 1750s when my ancestors lived there.
I would think people having searching for more than 70 years.
A little late. I believe the ark has already been found.
Pictures and story of the excavation at:
anchorstone.com
A cubit is about 43 to 56 centimeters.
susie
Actually it’s not the enviroment that’s preventing an archelogical study, but the Turkish goevernment.
They didn't just list the Koran first!"
They're Muslims, so what would you expect?
I recall reading something similar about 20 - 30 years ago in an archaeological review (scientific - not religious) journal.
There were several problems. The govt of Turkey would NOT permit at that time any one to go poking around up there .. no international teams, no scientific research. Period. Glad to see they did do a joint venture
and The pix I can recall were fairly interesting.. aerials with an image in ice. various views. The problem was that this area really never thawed & so all was encased in ice year round ..........just in “summer” less ice..
The warm season MIGHT permit opportunities to investigate if the proper permits could be secured (less Ice but apparently still encased). At that time I found it fascinating & frankly did not follow it anymore & just had my memory jarred when I saw this article.
If I am recalling correctly at the time there was a LOT of tension as air space was violated to get the pix. Now with satellite it would not be a problem
Would Steve Fossett fly off in a small airplane and disappear on purpose? Might he be holed up someplace watching all this on TV and laughing his butt off for some twisted reason?
The truth is often stranger than fiction, they say.
There was a series on tv “In Search of” hosted by Leonard Nimoy that publicized the possible location of the ark. The episode aired in 1979 called “Noah’s Flood”.
And what exactly is 'gopher wood'?
How could you tell the difference between it, and lets say, 'beaver wood'?
Actually, “Gopher Wood” is a misnomer due to translation.
The word is signified by the consonants KPR, which which would just as easily identify a kind of bituminous cement or pitch.
“Well, I wonder if they can analyize the petrified wood sample and tell whether or not it is gopher wood?”
And can they find any evidence that it once was covered with pitch?
That’s interesting, I didn’t know that. I wish I could read Hebrew.
susie
According to that site they also found the Ark of The Covenant containing the Ten Commandments which happened to be right under where Jesus was crucified and they found that His blood had seeped into the ground and landed on the Ark. Im sure thats all true too... /s
Look, I’m pretty religious, but we hear these “they found Noahs’ ark!” things about twice a year now.
"God? What's a 'cubit'?"
-- bill cosby
>>came out with “material evidence”, to prove that the Ark was nestled on Mount Ararat, Turkey’s highest mountain peak bordering Iran and Armenia<<
I wonder how they would prove its “the ark?”
Even if there is a boat there thats the right size, it would take a good bit more to show it was the original and not a copy and that it was used to transport all those different animal.
I would think they should find the DNA of hundreds of species of animals who live no where near the are on “the Ark.”
Now, I don’t doubt there was a local flood that was referenced in the Bible but even the base of what is called Mt Ararat today is 5000 feet above sea level and to be even a few thousand feet above that as part of a world wide flood would have left observable evidence.
Oooh a one meter long piece of petrified wood.
This story is posted here anually. Yawn...stretch...
wake me up when you really find something.
Uh, hello!!! The Nazis found the ark more than half a century ago. Thankfully, an American archeologist was able to rescue it. It’s currently been studied by “Top Men” at a facility in Washington with the usually title “Warehouse 23”.
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