Massive Demonstrations in Serbia: Mussolini and Hitler's Project Has Finally Been Accomplished

Byzantine Sacred Art ^ | February 18, 2008 | Svetlana Novko

[tpanther]

They’re there anyway, rather it’s an independent country or not.

And we don’t have to bomb churches into oblivion, just the terrorists.

[isrul]

I don’t think our leaders would resist the secession. They might very well help facilitate it. It would surely establish closer ties to our southern neighbors by moving the border further north and then finally eliminate it altogether.

[joan]

The Croats were allied with the Muslims and a major pipeline to sending them weapons. The Croat clergy were the leaders of the WWII genocide on Serbs and "baptized" Bosnian Serb children by slitting their throats.

The Croats at war were more akin to Satanic behavior than Christian. Meanwhile, Croats in Serbia and Catholic churches weren't harmed.

There was never any destruction of Catholic churches or killing of Serbian Croats in Serbia.

The killing fields in the Balkans all had non-Serb militants and separatist armies operating there. The Serbs were greatly outnumbered in Croatia and Bosnian by the Croat and Bosnian infantry respectively.

[isrul]

I see that as the primary objective.

[Bokababe]

http://www.redstate.com/blogs/demophilus/2007/may/03/us_and_nato_forces_are_used_to_protect_the_osama_bin_laden_mosque_in_kosovo

[GAB-1955]

No, someone who was watching in the 1990s and isn’t going to swallow a line differing from what I saw happened.

I thought the Serbians, finally, were offering something reasonable, but the Kosovans were stupid and didn’t take it. However, that doesn’t change what happened back then, no matter how much you want it to be different.

[Yardstick]

I'd like to read a non-biased account. (good luck). Because frankly I could go either way in opinion, or just go neither way and somehow not really care.

That's about where I am on this one. It's hard to clearly identify who the good guys are. I guess at the end of the day I learn toward the Serbs though.

[GAB-1955]

And would they have been allied with the Bosnians if the Serbs weren’t the dominant force in the old Yugoslavia? No.

[isrul]

60 billion buys a lot of mosquito nets.

[L,TOWM]

Oh that ain’t the WORST case scenario...

The worst case scenario has a really bad European War breaking out with the Russians on one side and those trying to create a terrorist narcoi state in the balkans on the other.

And yes, we are so on the wrong side of this...
Another proud remnent of the ‘toon’s legacy.

[Bokababe]

"No, someone who was watching in the 1990s and isn’t going to swallow a line differing from what I saw happened."

And that's what you saw and were meant to see, to rally for the political position that they wanted. .Here's what you didn't see.

[Traianus]

Vukovar massacre: What happened

By Gabriel Partos
BBC south east Europe analyst

Vukovar was a modestly prosperous, sleepy, provincial town in eastern Croatia, near the border with Serbia, noted for its picturesque baroque architecture. That was before the war for Croatia's independence erupted in July 1991.

By the end of its three-month siege at the hands of Serb forces in November 1991, Vukovar had become utterly devastated.

Vukovar suffered a three-month siege by Serb forces

It was, perhaps, the most comprehensively destroyed town of any size in either Bosnia-Herzegovina or Croatia during the wars of the first half of the 1990s.

Capture of the town was an important strategic objective for the Serb-dominated Yugoslav army. It was designed to consolidate Serb control over the region of Croatia known as eastern Slavonia.

That objective was achieved, even though there was little left, apart from than ruins, following the siege.

It was also accompanied by the ethnic cleansing of Croats, who prior to the war were present in Vukovar municipality in roughly the same numbers as Serbs.

Croat defenders of Vukovar later claimed that the town could have been saved from capture by Serb forces if the nationalist President Franjo Tudjman had been willing to send reinforcements.

Mr Tudjman was accused of deliberately sacrificing Vukovar - dubbed the Croatian Stalingrad because of its devastation - so as to reinforce his portrayal of Croatia as the victim of Serb aggression.

Grim events

Whatever the late President Tudjman's intentions, Vukovar has since become a symbol of destruction - and atrocities.

When the Serb forces took control of Vukovar on 19 November 1991, several hundred people took refuge in the town's hospital in the hope that they would be evacuated in the presence of neutral observers.

A deal to that effect had earlier been agreed in negotiations between the Yugoslav army and the Croatian government.

But instead of the hoped-for evacuation, about 400 individuals - including wounded patients, soldiers, hospital staff and Croatian political activists - were removed from the hospital by Yugoslav army and Serb paramilitary forces.

According to The Hague Tribunal's indictment, which was originally issued in 1995, three Yugoslav army officers, Colonel Mile Mrksic, Major Veselin Sljivancanin and Captain Miroslav Radic, oversaw the removal of some 300 men to Ovcara farm, four kilometres outside Vukovar.

The detainees were beaten up. Some died of their injuries and approximately 260 of them were executed and then buried in a mass grave.

Details of the Vukovar massacre soon began to emerge as survivors reported on the events, and doubts began to appear about the large number of missing detainees.

But it took several years of exhumations and painstaking investigations to gather the evidence that formed the basis of the Tribunal's indictment.

Trail of guilt

Subsequently, the Tribunal also issued the first of its sealed, secret indictments; against the wartime Serb mayor of Vukovar, Slavko Dokmanovic.

With the three army officers out of the Tribunal's reach in President Slobodan Milosevic's Yugoslavia, and with the danger that Mr Dokmanovic might escape from eastern Slavonia across the border to Yugoslavia if he were to be publicly indicted, his arrest by UN forces was swiftly accomplished in 1996.

Two years later Mr Dokmanovic hanged himself in prison while awaiting the verdict at the end of his trial in The Hague.

Miroslav Radic: Accused of role in Vukovar massacre

Most wanted: The Vukovar three

Mr Mrksic and Mr Radic surrendered to the Tribunal after Belgrade began to enact laws on the extradition of indicted war crimes suspects last year.

Mr Sljivancanin's arrest will now make it possible to go ahead with the trial of all members of the group known as the "Vukovar Three".

Vukovar, as part of eastern Slavonia, was the only region of Croatia's rebel Serb-held areas to escape capture by the Croatian army in 1995.

Because it was spared a military campaign in that year with the subsequent refugee exodus, it has also remained the only region with a substantial ethnic Serb community.

After the Dayton peace treaty for Bosnia and the Erdut agreement for Croatia brought the wars in the region to an end, eastern Slavonia was placed under UN administration for two years.

It was finally reintegrated with Croatia in 1998. Since then the painful process of reconstruction has been underway.

[joan]

The Croats and the Slovenes had an over representation of top leadership positions in Yugoslavia.

This "Serb domination" is a bunch of propaganda. The most powerful after the Croat-Slovene Tito were Edvard Kardelj and Stane Dolanc, both Slovenians. They made sure most of the investment and development went into Slovenia and Croatia - which were both quite poor when they joined Yugoslavia, but became fairly prosperous in the decades to follow.

Serb areas of Croatia (Krajina) were purposely kept less developed and Serbs had a special tax applied to send money down to Kosovo, ending up in the hands of Albanians plotting their long-held separatist dreams.

Industries started in Serbia were taken apart brick by brick and moved to Slovenia and Croatia. Other heavy and military industry was moved to Bosnia on the excuse of "in case of an attack by the Soviet Union to the East".

Most of the top airforce positions were taken by the Slovenes and the commander of the Navy accused of shelling Dubrovnik (which was only minimally damaged in contrast to the propaganda - none of its famous walls surrounding it was damaged) was a Slovene.

No, the Croats alignment with the Bosnian Muslims was their same behavior in WWI and WWII as puppets of a western power (in those cases it was Germany). The Croats simply hated Serbs and were groomed to hate them by Austria and Germany. They wanted a more pure Croatia and wanted to annex parts of Bosnia to be a greater Croatia. The wanted the Muslims to aid them so started propaganda flattery that the Muslims were "the flowers of the Croats".

However in the '90s war they turned against each other - partly due to the Mujahadeen, greed over land and no real like between them except as partners in crime against the Serbs.

[joan]

Your article fails to mention Tomislav Mercep as the initiator of the violence. Tomislav Mercep and the Croatian police started arresting Serbs, then torturing and killing them.

Tomislav Mercep was smuggled out of Vukovar before the fall and set up shop in Gospic where just one of his men admitted to personally with his own hands killing scores of Serbs.

Tomislav Mercep's deaths squads killed thousands of civilian Serbs and he started in Vukovar.

The Croats wanted to start trouble because there existed a Serb population in Vukovar - there was no parallel with Croat villages in Serbia. They weren't burned down and people were taken away, murdered and thrown in rivers.

Additionally the Croat forces were murdering civilian Serbs hiding in their basements as they retreated from Vukovar during the fall.

Fails to mention that there were about a dozen cease fires during the so-called siege and that Croats were the ones to break them.

[yorkie01]

Russia is included with the Slavic nations which greatly outnumber the Kosovars and Albanian thieves. The Ottoman’s really pushed the muslim numbers. The people of that area are definitely more European than arabic and were force-fed the muslim bs.

[Kolokotronis]

“Another proud remnent of the ‘toon’s legacy.”

Don’t kid yourself. This misshapen little Mohammedan monster is 100% George Bush’s baby.

[LjubivojeRadosavljevic]

Trainaus: Just to let you know, and bring you up to date, Miroslav Radic was acquitted on all counts.

[kronos77]

Or... Croates sided with Muslims against Serbs?

[MCH]

So, what’s the possibility that Kosovo may be voluntarily annexed by Albania sometime in the future? Any?

[oilfieldtrash]

I am waiting to see what happens in North Mitrovica. Will NATO be dumb enough to let the Ships overrun Mitrovica and cleanse the Serbs out. I hope not.

The NGO's cant wait to get their hooks on Trepca and Gazivoda. If they put pressure on the Serbs in the North all h___ is gonna break loose.