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Some 11th-Hour Advice to the Harvard Power Couple (Victor Davis Hanson on the Obamas)
The Corner at NRO ^ | 19 February 2008 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 02/19/2008 6:54:45 PM PST by SE Mom

Re: Michelle Obama's astounding admission that she hitherto had no reason to feel pride in the U.S., and Obama's supposed Biden-like lifting of a campaign refrain from someone else.

The problem is deeper than occasional slips. For most of the last 25 years the Obamas' contacts have been largely confined to universities (Occidental, Columbia, Princeton, Harvard, Chicago) as both students and employees, or to government-sponsored social agencies, or to the incestuous world of Chicago minority politics. These landscapes have proven liberal, sympathetic, and non-confrontational. I doubt very seriously in those environments that the Obamas have had any of their sometimes bewildering statements seriously cross-examined or questioned.

Michelle Obama, true, recites a litany of slights and grievances, but more likely she encountered highly educated white liberal audiences that were not about to cross her or challenge her assertions-a world away from steelworkers in Ohio, the Nascar crowd, the Mexican Americans in LA, the hungry wolves of the D.C. press corps for whom controversy trumps even shared liberal ideology — or Clinton, Inc. for whom power, status, and adulation outweigh everything, including liberal head-nodding, white guilt, and identity politics.

The result is that finally out on the campaign trail both are beginning to enter an arena where most of America does not faint at an Obama rally, but resents deeply a candidate's spouse suggesting that she previously had no pride in her own country, and would think that generous college admission practices, scholarships, and loans were cause more for gratitude rather than resentment.

Some old cynical campaign veteran, cigar in mouth-a Tip O'Neill-type, with the more scars the better-should sit the two kids down, explain the no-holds-barred rules of the arena outside the university and liberal government agency, remind them that African Americans and elite white liberals probably make up about at most a fourth of the electorate, and emphasize to them that by the public's own standard of living, the Obamas have been very privileged and done quite well-and that Michelle and Barack should start to say something uplifting other than the current mantra that the U.S. is a depressing and unfair place and has only one chance of 'hope" and "change" and "redemption" by allowing Barack and Michelle to lead us out of our collective ignorance.

02/19 08:59 PM


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barackhusseinobama; chebama; nobama; obama; vdh
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To: originalbuckeye

An awful lot of people, maybe a majority, think that the government creates wealth by printing dollars and that the government can pay for anything by printing more of them. Many of these same people also believe that the government has to raise taxes some or how else are they going to pay for everything? Liberals and public school grads seem quite capable of believing several mutually contradictory things simultaneously.


51 posted on 02/19/2008 7:39:04 PM PST by arthurus
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To: SE Mom

His shtick is nothing more than banality surounding an array of whiny complaint.. Methinks he’s a gonna get slaughtered.


52 posted on 02/19/2008 7:39:07 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: SE Mom

Excellent thread SE Mom.
McNasty and his people are definitely poised to sock it to Obama.
I can already see the attack: Obama is a weak wannabe FDR that lacks the moral foundation most of this nation shares.


53 posted on 02/19/2008 7:39:47 PM PST by Fox_Mulder77
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To: SE Mom
"I keep thinking I’m wrong- no one running for president in our country could be THIS radical."

I know what you mean. Last year when I first started seeing Obama '08 signs I laughed and thought the people who supported him were a small fringe of the nut-job left. Now it seems that there are a large amount of people enthralled with this madman. Like Hitler, Obama is an eloquent speaker and makes a good first impression. Still, it absolutely amazes me that he could have so much support since so many of his positions are so anti-American. These are strange times.

Another thing that really bugs me is the amount of money that both Obama & Hillary have been able to raise. Where is this all coming from?:

Buying the Presidency?

54 posted on 02/19/2008 7:40:10 PM PST by Left2Right ("Democracy isn't perfect, but other governments are so much worse (especially Iran's)")
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To: SE Mom

Both Obamabots are unbelievably priveleged, pampered, and comfortable in comparison to nearly all the world and nearly everyone in this country. For Michelle Obama to have felt so little (or no) pride in our nation before now, for her to be so filled with pathetic and dishonest grievance politics, is simply pitiful.


55 posted on 02/19/2008 7:40:48 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: we'll send Pelosi and Brezinski to Damascus, that's our foreign policy!!)
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To: ottbmare
Well put. I heard someone on the radio suggest that if Obama were elected President it would heal our country’s deepest wound, that being slavery. I repeated this to a black co-worker and the look on her face told me that wouldn’t be the case. Will that wound ever heal? How many years of affirmative action will we need? Forever? What would it take for all Americans to be on an equal footing? I’m white, too, and I suspect you are right.
56 posted on 02/19/2008 7:41:25 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Nonstatist

But he is connecting.


57 posted on 02/19/2008 7:41:27 PM PST by Dog
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To: WHBates

McCaìn will get us about 4 years more time. Then the millions of new Democrats that he will ordain by Amnesty will usher in the New Democrat Era with the Republicans washed right out of national politics.


58 posted on 02/19/2008 7:42:52 PM PST by arthurus
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To: aruanan

Yep- they have- as Hanson points out- led an insulated life. His activism in the streets of Chicago is what he uses for cred. And they are buying it hook, line and sinker..


59 posted on 02/19/2008 7:42:55 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Melinda

Massachusetts already has a Royal Family. There is not room for two.


60 posted on 02/19/2008 7:44:15 PM PST by arthurus
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To: arthurus

Look this has been a civil discussion lets not ruin it...you want to bash McCain take it elsewhere...please.


61 posted on 02/19/2008 7:44:41 PM PST by Dog
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To: arthurus

The party of the Democrats has veered a long way from ‘ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country’. I’d love for someone to repeat that to Obama and ask him how he reconciles Kennedy’s vision with his own. Caroline herself said Obama reminded her of her father. Sounds like she didn’t know her father very well as he died when she was quite young. She must have just meant young and charismatic.


62 posted on 02/19/2008 7:45:35 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Dog
Germany in the 30’s got caught up in their version of this.

And Germany got its Messiah, too.

63 posted on 02/19/2008 7:46:12 PM PST by arthurus
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To: Dog
But he is connecting.

Not forever.

64 posted on 02/19/2008 7:47:23 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: SE Mom
Slick, smug Socialists.

Every other word that flows out of both of their mouths just drips with arrogant narcissism and conceited, egotistical... smarminess.

God help us when those two Fabian Socialists get control of the Presidency.


65 posted on 02/19/2008 7:49:01 PM PST by The_Macallan
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To: Nonstatist

I don’t know about that.


66 posted on 02/19/2008 7:49:07 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog

John Kerry had a “PLAN” in 04. Obama is going for “CHANGE” in 08. Both times we have no idea what the PLAN was or the CHANGE is. When is someone going to ASK. With O we can assume what the CHANGE will be but why won’t he come out with it point blank. See how many people will faint then!!!


67 posted on 02/19/2008 7:49:37 PM PST by MarineMom613 (My Son is My Hero!!!)
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To: Nonstatist

From your lips to God’s ears...

WE think he should get slaughtered...but let’s look at a demographic we’re not thinking about here.

For YEARS “we” have talked about the youth vote, the college kids, if “we” (Dems and Reps) could just get them to come out and vote...but- after each cycle..we sit back and say- maybe next time. They simply do not show up on election day (in significant numbers)...let alone for primaries.

Obama has mobilized thousands upon thousands of YOUNG, first-time voters to actually register and get out on primary day.


68 posted on 02/19/2008 7:49:56 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: MarineMom613

If we had an honest media someone might get around to asking....but we don’t have one.


69 posted on 02/19/2008 7:51:25 PM PST by Dog
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To: SE Mom

Great VDH article bump.


70 posted on 02/19/2008 7:51:30 PM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: SE Mom
I absolutely adore VDH; even so, this is one of the classiest and most tasteful things he has ever written.

Cheers!

71 posted on 02/19/2008 7:51:49 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Left2Right

Still, it absolutely amazes me that he could have so much support since so many of his positions are so anti-American. These are strange times.

A quote I keep thinking of lately:

In every age the men who want us under their thumb, if they have any sense, will put forward the particular pretension which the hopes and fears of that age render most potent...

C.S. Lewis


72 posted on 02/19/2008 7:52:09 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: originalbuckeye

That wound cannot be “healed” so long as it is useful for political and material gain, so long as non-blacks have any assets at all.


73 posted on 02/19/2008 7:55:03 PM PST by arthurus
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To: SE Mom

I was watching BHO in Texas and I thought he said that he wanted to repeal the Bush tax cuts (no surprise) and give tax relief to families making less than $75K and for families making less than $50K they would not pay any taxes. So, there’s a lot of people making less than $50K if they would just get their lazy arses to the polls who would vote for him just for the “free” education and medical proposals alone. That is scary.


74 posted on 02/19/2008 7:56:01 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Dog; SE Mom
Look this has been a civil discussion lets not ruin it...you want to bash McCain take it elsewhere...please.

Plenty of people around here who seem to live for no other purpose than to bash McCain. Obama is dangerous, even more so than Hillary and that's saying a lot. He must be stopped in the general election. Some will piss away their votes to show their displeasure with McCain, I don't care much for the man either but he's a damn sight better that either of the communist America haters on the democrat side.

Anyone may stay at home on election day or vote third party or write in, as for me, I am voting for McCain and against 4-8 years of communist rule.

75 posted on 02/19/2008 7:57:44 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: originalbuckeye

White Americans won’t be let off the hook for slavery for a very long time, if ever. Obama’s only connection, other than through his marriage, with American slavery is to be descended through his mother from some white slaveowners.


76 posted on 02/19/2008 7:58:01 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Graybeard58

See? This is what I’m looking at too. Hillary is small fry compared to this man...


77 posted on 02/19/2008 8:00:24 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Comparative Advantage

Yep- you heard right- I wrote it down...though my hands told my brain it was a lie!


78 posted on 02/19/2008 8:01:33 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Needless to say, families making even $150K are far from rich. But, at least, he’s out front with who he considers “rich”, families making more than $75K. That should be a wakeup call for a lot of independents.


79 posted on 02/19/2008 8:04:26 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: arthurus
If you bothered to listen to Obama's speech tonight you would have heard what he intends in that regard. I wasn't for McCain and didn't vote for him in the primary but while I don't like him, I do trust him to do what he says he will do and it isn't that.

I don't trust Obama at all but I do believe he will try to do what he says and that scares me because he is likely to have both the house and senate to make it happen.

80 posted on 02/19/2008 8:06:00 PM PST by WHBates
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To: SE Mom
For YEARS “we” have talked about the youth vote, the college kids,

When 18 year olds became eligible to vote, I was with a lot of young people in a university setting. They were almost all liberal, as such people tend to be. Nixon was running for his second term. The young people hated him. They made signs, held protests and marches, etc.

After Nixon won, I asked as many of them as I could how they voted and almost none of them voted. They "knew" that he would lose because they didn't know anybody who liked him.

In elections that have followed, they don't vote.

All their rhetoric about the current contest notwithstanding, I suspect their behavior will run true to form and they go to the party or something and forget to vote.

Again.

81 posted on 02/19/2008 8:09:43 PM PST by Octar
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To: WHBates

I don’t care for McCain frankly, but I will hold my nose and vote for him in Nov. I fully appreciate and understand why there are many who want to stay home, but these two Dem candidates make George McGovern almost seem moderate. I’ve decided that 2/3 of the pie is better than none. the stakes are too high for me and my family’s future.


82 posted on 02/19/2008 8:10:30 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: Octar

I look forward (not using the word hope at the present time!) to you being correct in November. I also keep in mind that much can happen between now and November.

I’d simply be more at ease if we were going against Hillary..


83 posted on 02/19/2008 8:13:47 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: ASOC
Baltimore MD - F!#$ ‘em and the horse they came in on ...
84 posted on 02/19/2008 8:15:04 PM PST by Seajay (Ordem e Progresso)
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To: SE Mom
I’d simply be more at ease if we were going against Hillary..

I fully expect Hillary to do everything possible to screw Obama out of the nomination.

Oh, please let that happen.

With the combination of pissed off Obama supporters coupled with the vast army of Hillary haters, she will get her ass handed to her in the general.

The young people will still be too busy to vote.

Just sayin'.

85 posted on 02/19/2008 8:25:10 PM PST by Octar
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To: WHBates

McCain has said nothing to alter his previously ardent promotion of Amnesty. He has more recently said he will build the fence. He can’t build the fence. He will have a very Democrat House and probably a Democrat Senate. The congress we have now defunded the fence that was already enacted. There will be no additional fence. Once he does get Amnesty, the flood will rapidly swell.


86 posted on 02/19/2008 8:27:00 PM PST by arthurus
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To: SE Mom

Michele Obama is beginning to remind me of Geraldine.


87 posted on 02/19/2008 8:30:21 PM PST by jimmer49
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To: The_Macallan

Best bumper sticker of the year (with or without the Alinsky ref)


88 posted on 02/19/2008 8:31:06 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Dog
I don’t know about that.

Hes only running 5 pts or so ahead of McCain and hes had almost no bad press .. What youre witnessing is a media lovefest which hasnt been countered by a Republican counterattack. Yet.

89 posted on 02/19/2008 8:45:08 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: arthurus
Well we obviously don't agree about his position, actually he didn't say he would build a fence anyway, maybe you should read up on it.

You should have have a broader view of what is a stake in this election. There is a lot more issues and on everyone of those issues Obama is 180 degrees away from me.

Maybe he is close to you on all of your other issues and that is your right to feel that way.

90 posted on 02/19/2008 8:45:47 PM PST by WHBates
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To: originalbuckeye
I heard someone on the radio suggest that if Obama were elected President it would heal our country’s deepest wound, that being slavery. I repeated this to a black co-worker and the look on her face told me that wouldn’t be the case. Will that wound ever heal? How many years of affirmative action will we need? Forever? What would it take for all Americans to be on an equal footing? I’m white, too, and I suspect you are right.

Today I was listening to Washington's WMAL 630-AM radio, the local conservative station, and there was a discussion of Michelle Obama's ingratitude. The host asked a black caller if he would concede that if Obama was elected president, racism would effectively be over in America and no further complaints of racism would be merited. The caller said that No, Obama's election would not mean the end of complaints.

If Obama is not elected president, I fear there will be riots.

91 posted on 02/19/2008 8:46:59 PM PST by ottbmare
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To: SE Mom

Obama should keep Michelle under wraps during the rest of his campaign.

She comes across as a shrew and an old bat, who will dictate national policy to him when they live in the White House.

She reminds me of Aunt Esther on “Sanford and Son”. A very domineering woman.


92 posted on 02/19/2008 8:52:12 PM PST by Palladin (Hillary plagiarized her fingerpointing and air-stabbing from Bubba.)
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To: SE Mom
Obama has mobilized thousands upon thousands of YOUNG, first-time voters to actually register and get out on primary day.

You must have been born yesterday. We're watchiing LIBERALS competing against LIBERALS , brokered by a LIBERAL Press. LIBERALS are a minority in this country.

People are sick of Bush but they have not assimilated what it would mean to elect the MOST Liberal Senator in the Congress, more liberal than Kennedy, Clinton, Dodd, anybody. He's not going to slip in without this being trumpetted by conservative interest groups. His favorables are going to drop like a rock, wait and see.

93 posted on 02/19/2008 8:52:42 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: SE Mom
...the Obamas have been very privileged and done quite well...she attended Princeton and then Harvard, but has stated: "you wouldn't believe it if you had seen my test scores" - maybe an affirmative action baby grown up.......
94 posted on 02/19/2008 8:55:29 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Palladin
Obama should keep Michelle under wraps during the rest of his campaign.

He should keep her under wraps because she is dumb.

Affirmative action, don'cha know.

95 posted on 02/19/2008 8:58:19 PM PST by Octar
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To: ottbmare; jan in Colorado; USF; george76; Candor7; Just A Nobody
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8583.html

On Sunday, Doug Wilder, the mayor of Richmond and a former governor of Virginia, went even further, predicting riots in the streets if the Clinton campaign were to overturn an Obama lead through the use of superdelegates.

“There will be chaos at the convention,” Wilder told Bob Schieffer on “Face the Nation.”

“If you think 1968 was bad, you watch: In 2008, it will be worse.”

Richmond Mayor L. Douglas Wilder predicted riots in the streets if the Clinton campaign were to overturn an Obama lead through the use of superdelegates. Photo: AP

CHANGE!

CHANGE! OBAMA-ODINGA-KENYA-USA

THE OBAMA FILE. Compiled by FReeper Beckwith: LINK.

96 posted on 02/19/2008 9:03:52 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Richmond Mayor L. Douglas Wilder predicted riots in the streets if the Clinton campaign were to overturn an Obama lead through the use of superdelegates.

I can't wait.

97 posted on 02/19/2008 9:09:58 PM PST by Octar
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To: SE Mom
Obama is holding the trump card...
Spouting change and not having to answer "change what"..
Because ALL know what he means "Change Presidents"...

YET, implying other changes but not directly offering them..
American women have been dumbed down that much..
Oprah is not stupid, but she is politically dumb..
Most democrats are women but Oprah draws many RINOs also..

Obama is trumping Hillary, and McLaim...
The question, "DO YOU WANT CHANGE?"... Who could say NO..
Even at FR oh! Yes WE want change too.. Its a killer sound bite..

Besides that the democrats are galvaized but the republicans are disappointed and depressed..
Worse that will not CHANGE this cycle..

98 posted on 02/19/2008 9:16:56 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Nonstatist

No. I was not born yesterday.

I’m looking at the opposition we face.


99 posted on 02/19/2008 9:21:19 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: ottbmare
"... If Obama is not elected president, I fear there will be riots."

I hope it's televised. There won't be any riots here.

100 posted on 02/19/2008 9:23:38 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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