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George Washington for President in 2008
Breed's Hill Institute ^ | 02-22-2008 | Breed's Hill

Posted on 02/22/2008 7:02:20 AM PST by stand_your_ground

WHY ARE YOU SUPPORTING GEORGE WASHINGTON FOR PRESIDENT?

ANSWER: People are always complaining that there are no great leaders today. The truth is that the only reason we don't have great leaders is because we don't demand them. By supporting George Washington....

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; georgewashington; presidents; taxes; war; washington
Great site with some important truths on the birthday of a great American...
1 posted on 02/22/2008 7:02:25 AM PST by stand_your_ground
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To: stand_your_ground

He couldn’t win.

Not today.


2 posted on 02/22/2008 7:09:32 AM PST by NoLibZone (If the Clinton years were so great, why is Osama doing so well?)
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To: stand_your_ground

Can’t have a gun nut in the White House ...


3 posted on 02/22/2008 7:11:57 AM PST by JmyBryan
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To: stand_your_ground
I'm convinced we have a diluted view of most historical characters. George Washington was probably as bit of an opportunist as anyone else. When I was in college, I became aware of a book named George Washington's Expense Account. Here is a snippet of the editor's review of that book--judge for yourself.

Was George Washington first in war; first in peace; and first in discovering the joys of an unlimited expense account? Hint: Generals earned $166 per month. At the end of 8 years of war George Washington presented an expense account of $499,261.51. That was when a dollar was a continental. Washington included interest for money he loaned himself and depreciation. He later offered to work only for expenses as president and got a salary in stead.
4 posted on 02/22/2008 7:17:01 AM PST by Ptaz (Take Personal Responsibility--it's not fun, but it's the right thing to do.)
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To: Ptaz

Washington won his war.

I’ll take his expense account over LBJ’s, Nixon’s, Carter’s, the Bush Family, Bill Clinton’s...


5 posted on 02/22/2008 7:19:32 AM PST by stand_your_ground
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To: Ptaz
George Washington was probably as bit of an opportunist as anyone else.

George Washington, had he lost, would of been the first person hanging from the end of a rope by the hand of George III. Please....

6 posted on 02/22/2008 7:30:32 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: frogjerk
George Washington, had he lost, would of been the first person hanging from the end of a rope by the hand of George III. Please....

The words "snot-nosed" unavoidably come to mind when I read comments like those of Ptaz.
7 posted on 02/22/2008 7:35:53 AM PST by stand_your_ground
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To: Ptaz
I'm convinced we have a diluted view of most historical characters. George Washington was probably as bit of an opportunist as anyone else.

George Washington deserved much more than what he received in payment. If there was a way I could repay him monetarily now, I would do it without any question

Give the man the credit he is due! He was such an opportunist that he stepped down, when his term was up, from leading the country after they wanted to anoint him King.

Also, while you are at it, why don't you bust your butt for years before winning one battle and then gamble on the whole shebang on leading a raid against mercenaries in one of the most ungodly winters on record...with a rag-tag group of men that haven't been paid in years?

8 posted on 02/22/2008 7:45:42 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: frogjerk

I’m not going to argue with you. You’re not hearing me. He was a man—and I didn’t say he was a bad man. He was just human. Don’t make him a saint.


9 posted on 02/22/2008 7:52:08 AM PST by Ptaz (Take Personal Responsibility--it's not fun, but it's the right thing to do.)
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To: NoLibZone
He couldn’t win.

Neither could John F. Kennedy.

47 years and one month ago, Kennedy made the following statements near the end of his address.

"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country.

My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man."

Did you hear either RAT candidate ask Americans to do anything for their country last night? No, it was give away, give away, give away, give away, give away, give away, and more give away.

10 posted on 02/22/2008 7:58:10 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 ("It may take another Jimmy Carter to get another Ronald Reagan". Rush Limbaugh Jan. 14, 2008)
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To: JmyBryan
Can’t have a gun nut in the White House ...

Not to mention a slave owner...

11 posted on 02/22/2008 7:58:54 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (New and Improved! Now with 4 less lbs.)
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To: stand_your_ground

The NY Times would be running stories about his wooden teeth 24-7.


12 posted on 02/22/2008 7:59:50 AM PST by Antoninus (Tell us how you came to Barack?)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Not to mention a slave owner...

I was under the impression that if I don't 30-50% of my income to the Federal slave master, they take me away in irons. What's the difference?

I've also thought it highly ironic, and sad, that African Americans tend to vote, in huge numbers, for the party of abortion. It seems particulary heartless to be freed from one evil only to impose a greater evil.
13 posted on 02/22/2008 8:02:01 AM PST by stand_your_ground
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To: stand_your_ground; Pharmboy

Will the general carry the Garden State? He lived here for many of his glory years.


14 posted on 02/22/2008 8:03:16 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: Ptaz

GW also owned the largest distillery outside of Europe. Can’t argue with success!


15 posted on 02/22/2008 8:03:59 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: Ptaz
I’m not going to argue with you. You’re not hearing me. He was a man—and I didn’t say he was a bad man. He was just human. Don’t make him a saint.

The last fifty years of public school education have made sure no one sees him, even remotely, as a "saint," but it's the hackneyed nay-saying of the academy set that doesn't recognize him as what he was--a hero.

Carping at Washington is the tell-tale sign of someone who attended a communty college somewhere.
16 posted on 02/22/2008 8:04:19 AM PST by stand_your_ground
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To: stand_your_ground

Agreed.

I was just referencing the effort to change the names of schools named in honor of Washington because, after all, he was a slave owner.


17 posted on 02/22/2008 8:05:23 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (New and Improved! Now with 4 less lbs.)
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To: Ptaz
I’m not going to argue with you. You’re not hearing me. He was a man—and I didn’t say he was a bad man. He was just human. Don’t make him a saint.

No, I heard you. Obviously he was just human but give the man his due. George Washington, a man known throughout the whole world for his integrity, loyalty, courage, and selflessness. You are trying to point out that the first of all Americans was greedy and I'm not buying it.

18 posted on 02/22/2008 8:13:59 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: Ptaz
Some kind of conflict here in accounts.

Revolutionary War Expense Account, 1775 - 1783

George Washington refused to accept a salary as commander in chief, instead offering to claim only his expenses. Congress readily accepted this offer in 1775. At the end of the war, Washington compiled his own general accounts from the record books in this Revolutionary War section of Series 5. He calculated that £ was equivalent to $26, which was generous on his part because at times the dollar depreciated to hundreds of dollars to a single British pound sterling. Washington's total expenses of $160,074 included not only his personal accounts but expenses for his headquarters (which he referred to as his "military family"), secret intelligence (spy services), and traveling expenses for his headquarters and guards, commanded by Captain Caleb Gibbs. After a careful examination of these accounts and their supporting documentation, James Milligan, Comptroller General of the United States Treasury, found that Washington was due an additional eighty-nine nintieths of one dollar.

Source: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gwhtml/gwseries5.html


19 posted on 02/22/2008 8:25:32 AM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: stand_your_ground

there’s no need to be insulting.

In never once insulted you.


20 posted on 02/22/2008 8:49:18 AM PST by Ptaz (Take Personal Responsibility--it's not fun, but it's the right thing to do.)
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To: Ptaz

I don’t care if you insult me, but insulting George Washington seems a tad ungrateful on his birthday, don’t you think? I think it’s also fair to point out that virtually EVERYONE in the academy makes it their business to “demythologize” the founders every day. (They wouldn’t want modern secularist college students having any heroes, now would they?) It’s that kind of thinking I find insulting and spoiled.


21 posted on 02/22/2008 9:09:56 AM PST by stand_your_ground
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To: Ptaz
I'm convinced we have a diluted view of most historical characters. George Washington was probably as bit of an opportunist as anyone else. When I was in college, I became aware of a book named George Washington's Expense Account.

But Washington didn't "run for President." He didn't put himself forward for the office.

Or for top commander. Or for chairman of the Constitutional Convention. His peers demanded that Washington serve.

So in that very important way he was probably less of an opportunist than other politicians or maybe even the rest of us.

22 posted on 02/22/2008 9:21:06 AM PST by x
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To: Ptaz

Below is from George Washington’s Farewell Address!

Warns against the party system.
“It serves to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration....
agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one....
against another....
it opens the door to foreign influence and corruption...
thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.”

Stresses the importance of religion and morality.
“Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths,
which are the instruments of investigation in Courts of Justice?”

On stable public credit.
“...cherish public credit.
One method of preserving it is to use it as sparingly as possible...
avoiding likewise the accumulation of debt....
it is essential that you...bear in mind, that towards the payments of debts there must be Revenue,
that to have Revenue there must be taxes;
that no taxes can be devised, which are not...inconvenient and unpleasant...”

Warns against permanent foreign alliances.
“It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world...”


23 posted on 02/22/2008 9:44:34 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: Ptaz

I also did a report on “Washington’s Expense Account” in college...fascinating subject! It was amazing how he offered his services for free and that all he requested was that his expenses were paid for. How generous of him!
In fact this turned out to be the beginning of excessive government spending.

You know the old saying, “George Washington slept here...”
The real reason he slept in so many inns during the revolutionary war instead of in troop housing (tents etc) was that the tab was being picked up by the new taxpayers.

I also marvelled at the entries regarding his misplacement of his pistol.


24 posted on 02/22/2008 10:05:52 AM PST by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: Mrs. B.S. Roberts
You know the old saying, “George Washington slept here...” The real reason he slept in so many inns during the revolutionary war instead of in troop housing (tents etc) was that the tab was being picked up by the new taxpayers.

It was not at all clear that the new "taxpayers" would be prevailed upon to pay anything at all. Many of the Pennsylvania farmers were in fact selling produce to the British for English gold, as opposed to our troops for Continental credit. You obviously haven't spent much time in 18th century day books, because tavern expenses were very common for Continental officers. Washington was paying for these expenses out of his own pocket, with the very dim hope that someday, a free republic would pay him back. Many of the colonial gentry, considerably less comfortable than Washington in civilian life, were hedging their bets and not participating in the struggle that gave you, among others, a free nation. Your commentary is the prattling of an ingrate.
25 posted on 02/22/2008 10:33:07 AM PST by stand_your_ground
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To: stand_your_ground

It’s good someone remembered that Feb. 22 is George Washington’s birthday (New Style, anyway). (He was born before the calendar reform of 1752, and I read somewhere that he continued to think of Feb. 11 as his birthday).


26 posted on 02/22/2008 10:47:48 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: stand_your_ground

I never insulted you and I never insulted George Washington. I was just stating a quirk of history that I found interesting and you took it in an insulting manner and started all this. I know some people on FR enjoy fighting but I’m not one of them. I have felt a little insulted by your responses and I guess you enjoy that.


27 posted on 02/22/2008 11:39:14 AM PST by Ptaz (Take Personal Responsibility--it's not fun, but it's the right thing to do.)
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To: Mrs. B.S. Roberts

Yep, he’s a wonderful man, but he’s human too. If more people could find the human side of history, we probably wouldn’t see so many distortious or re-writing of history today.


28 posted on 02/22/2008 11:40:52 AM PST by Ptaz (Take Personal Responsibility--it's not fun, but it's the right thing to do.)
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To: Ptaz

You called the father of our country “an opportunist,” and you don’t expect to get your nonsensical, junior-college evaluation fired back at you? You shouldn’t be in the kitchen if you don’t like the heat.


29 posted on 02/22/2008 2:25:35 PM PST by stand_your_ground
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To: NoLibZone

Yes, for some on FR, he wouldn’t be conservative enough!


30 posted on 02/23/2008 9:26:20 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Ptaz
I’m not going to argue with you. You’re not hearing me. He was a man—and I didn’t say he was a bad man. He was just human. Don’t make him a saint.

He was a great man.

31 posted on 02/23/2008 9:27:26 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Antoninus
The NY Times would be running stories about his wooden teeth 24-7.

LOL!

32 posted on 02/23/2008 9:28:04 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Ptaz

“When I was in college, I became aware of a book named George Washington’s Expense Account. Here is a snippet of the editor’s review of that book—judge for yourself.”

Ok I am not starting a flam war, but I have heard that even though that book was de bunked the leftys keep using it as another reason to insult Washington.


33 posted on 02/23/2008 9:29:40 AM PST by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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I am the campaign director for Washington 08 and I am very pleased to see so many citizens debating the General’s record. I encourage you all to go to the “You” page on our campaign website at GeorgeWashington08.org and send your questions directly to the General. Answers will be posted as he is able to give time to them.
I’m sure that there will be positions that you both agree with and disagree with in our campaign but Washington is the only candidate that has first hand knowledge of the Constitution’s intentions when written. It’s our Constitution not the Government’s.

Success to Liberty and Victory to Washington,
D.H.T. Shippey
Campaign Manager
Washington 08

34 posted on 02/23/2008 12:30:17 PM PST by Washington in 08 (GeorgeWashington08.org Real Revolutionary Leadership)
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