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How John McCain may still lose the nomination (Huckabee's delegate math)
The Forerunner Forum (FL) ^ | February 14, 2008 | Jay Rogers

Posted on 02/22/2008 11:27:13 PM PST by Kurt Evans

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To: Kurt Evans

Give it up. For all of McCain’s flaws, he is the nominee. And compared to Obama he is George Washington. Huckabee is a man that I did greatly respect, but he is just embarrassing himself at this point, and he only is in the race for his own inflated ego.


21 posted on 02/23/2008 12:43:57 AM PST by John Robie
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To: DoughtyOne
I'm not a big fan (of Huckabee), but he is a lot more than I thought a couple of months ago, here is a picture of Duncan. ============================================================ Image and video hosting by TinyPic
22 posted on 02/23/2008 12:47:16 AM PST by ansel12 (post-apocalyptic drifter uttered three words, polygamous zombie vampires!)
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To: ansel12

I had a hard time spotting him at first. Looks like a lot of meat there.

Thanks for the photo.


23 posted on 02/23/2008 12:55:14 AM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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To: Kurt Evans

One thing that is important in this analysis is states that are winner take all - if Huckabee wins those he gets all the delegates. But the rest of the states even if Huck wins McCain still gets significant delegates.

The analysis I saw on Fox said that even Huck won every remaining state with 60% of the vote that McCain still locks up the nomination before the convention.


24 posted on 02/23/2008 1:04:11 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: taxesareforever
Huckster has till March 10th to make a decision about running for the Senate. If he doesn’t pull out of this thing by then I believe he is in it for the long haul.

Yes...quit a Presidential bid to run for a Senate seat would prove he is a man of conviction...not.

25 posted on 02/23/2008 1:06:05 AM PST by torchthemummy ("The law of unintended consequences has not been repealed." - Fransam)
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To: Kurt Evans

Huckabee Math - doesn’t include Romney’s delegates. You know, the ones he asked to be transferred to McCain the same day this article was written...8 days ago.


26 posted on 02/23/2008 1:09:42 AM PST by torchthemummy ("The law of unintended consequences has not been repealed." - Fransam)
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To: gondramB

“The analysis I saw on Fox said that even Huck won every remaining state with 60% of the vote that McCain still locks up the nomination before the convention.”

The analysis probably included unbound delegates in McCain’s current total. That’s basically just a poll. Any number of circumstances could cause those delegates to change their minds by September.


27 posted on 02/23/2008 1:17:34 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: torchthemummy

“Huckabee Math - doesn’t include Romney’s delegates.”

Once Romney’s delegates are released, they become officially unbound. Any number of circumstances could cause those delegates—and maybe even Romney himself—to change their minds by September.


28 posted on 02/23/2008 1:19:52 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans
Once Romney’s delegates are released, they become officially unbound. Any number of circumstances could cause those delegates—and maybe even Romney himself—to change their minds by September.

That's why I said, "...asked to be transferred..."

29 posted on 02/23/2008 1:25:05 AM PST by torchthemummy ("The law of unintended consequences has not been repealed." - Fransam)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
If Huckabee held a press conference this weekend, and stated for all to hear, that Duncan Hunter would be his running mate.

That just might change things...

In fact, it would change this poster’s mind immediately.

Duncan Hunter should be the Republican nominee!

That would get my vote. My first choice was Duncan Hunter.

30 posted on 02/23/2008 1:25:27 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: Kurt Evans

ABM


31 posted on 02/23/2008 1:35:36 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye

“ABM”

Are you asking for their webpage?

http://bfmed.org/


32 posted on 02/23/2008 1:46:02 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans

No. It means Anybody But McCain. Jim Robinson coined the phrase a couple of weeks ago.


33 posted on 02/23/2008 1:48:06 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“If Huckabee held a press conference this weekend, and stated for all to hear, that Duncan Hunter would be his running mate. That just might change things...”

That would probably play well in Texas.

I concur. Roll the dice.


34 posted on 02/23/2008 1:48:16 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: TigersEye

“It means Anybody But McCain. Jim Robinson coined the phrase a couple of weeks ago.”

Oh yeah. I remember that now. Thanks for the clarification. Hopefully my humor didn’t offend you.


35 posted on 02/23/2008 1:49:14 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Hunter wouldn’t bring enough to the ticket since California would be out of play. Besides, McCain pretty much has the nomination in the bag.


36 posted on 02/23/2008 2:24:56 AM PST by End Times Crusader (John McCain - Leadership in the face of a resurgent Russia)
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To: Westlander
“The wimp arsed GOP will be screwed for the next 8 years. And they have only themselves to blame.”

You said it well. It’s like rooting between two drowning cockroaches that fell into a punchbowl.

37 posted on 02/23/2008 2:40:23 AM PST by Luke21
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To: All
This is little old, the it still applies,

More importantly, we DEMAND that Huck stay in the race until the end! we demand it :)... By many's opions here in FR, you are worse than Hitler and you should be hung like Sadam was! It makes you wonder where does this people really come from, but they are there! :)... We Social-Conservatives need to you to stay in the fight until the end, if nothing else so no one can say "Macaca is the ONLY choice," No he isin't...As long as you are there buddy :)

We Social-Conservatives KNOW that this is not about Huck or even winning the nomination or even the general election, very unlikely although not impossible… Huck just happens to be the best candidate that represents our values at the moment. This is the ONLY candidate who made it through coming from nowhere and he is still alive!.. What I hoped it would happen with Duncan… A true grass roots choice who made it big and that is GREAT beyond words.

For one, it shows, the Evangelicals who care about 'values' have not lost their focus… their eyes ARE ON THE BALL! and I congratulate them and support them. Just think, if the Evangelicals have been able to accomplish this much by themselves… THINK of what we could do if ALL OF US UNITE in the fight!.. Heck let's learn from the homos themselves!... Look what the have accomplished with such a tiny percentage… and all because they have been united in purpose… Look at the Blacks… You see them all over the place on TV now :) ... probably electing the first Black president in this country… I would say that IS success.

So, if they can do it… Why not us?... After all, we are on the side of God and that should count for something, or not? :)

I have decided that I will vote for Huck now that our turn is coming here in VA. I also sent him a small contribution. I encourage all Social-Conservatives of ALL kinds, from ALL religions, and non-religious people who care for the same 'values' to join our Evangelical friends in their fight.

America is not Europe!... And that is why this movement will grow stronger… For the simple reason that social-conservatives have NO OTHER CHOICE than to band together if we are going to have a fair fight against this monster of a Goliath that is the MSM, ACLU/Homosexual-agenda, Hollywood, The Teacher's National Association :), Liberal Universities Faculties and all the others, all working together to turn this country into a cesspool of immorality. We must fight to protect the unborn, the boys-scouts and such, even the MILITARY - The homosexual's last frontier so to speak - who dream to convert it into a laboratory for social engineering. Someone who is ready to sacrifice their very own lives for this country should not have to worry about these people… if you get my meaning. If we let that happen, shame on all of us Social-conservatives!

I purposely use the Social-Conservatives label, to differentiate us from the 'other' conservatives who seem to care about every 'conservative' cause, except social values! .We on the other hand care about those values a lot, otherwise we'll end up with a very 'rich', very 'free' but a very ugly country. In other words, although important, it's more than just about money or philosophies or guns for us.


38 posted on 02/23/2008 2:42:02 AM PST by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 -- I am proud to support this man for my president and may be Huck :))
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To: DoughtyOne
I got to know more than a few girl-friends over a month or so and thought I knew them too. Boy was I wrong.

Okay, I'll interject here that I grew up in the GOP in a rock-ribbed conservative Texas family: my late father founded our county Republican party, my brother worked at the RNC in Washington for years, and I work in the media. I know Mike Huckabee personally, have known him for about eight years, and have even had dinner sitting next to him at the head table of the Governor's Mansion in Little Rock. I know him well enough that when I attended his rally in Plano, Texas, last week, his daughter saw me in the crowd and personally escorted me backstage to visit. And I can tell you that virtually everything that gets said on FR about his beliefs, his character and his record is 100% slanderous bilge.

Posters on this board have no problem with calling people vicious names and attributing the worst possible motives to them when they've never met them and know nothing about them other than some nasty, one-sided election year hit pieces they haven't bothered to research. And they never see their own contradictions: they can go straight from condemning Huckabee because "he's only in the race to help McCain" to condemning Huckabee because "he's only staying in the race to be McCain's VP" to condemning Huckabee because "his staying in the race is hurting McCain," and each of these ever-shifting, contradictory statements is made with an arrogant and absolute certainty, despite them not having the slightest clue about the man and his motives.

I supported Huckabee from day one, when other Freepers were flitting from one fantasy "perfect conservative" to another, from the messiah Fred Thompson, whom I warned them would be a disappointment before he ever got into the race and was told I was "WRONG!" (I wasn't) to Mitt Romney, who would get crushed in a general election in the current public mood (don't bother telling me I'm "WRONG," because I'm not). And I'm glad I still get the chance to vote for him in Texas, whether it does any good or not. I'll hold my nose and vote McCain in November if I have to, but there's no way the New York Times is telling me that the GOP candidate has already been chosen by New Hampshire and DC before Texans even get a say in the matter.

BTW, I'm not an evangelical, I'm an agnostic; and I disagree with Huckabee on several key issues. But he's still the most electable and most qualified candidate, the only one left with real executive experience, and the only one with the wit, crossover outsider appeal and oratorical skills to compete with Obama. If it's McCain vs. Obama, we're looking at Bob Dole II.

39 posted on 02/23/2008 3:33:35 AM PST by HHFi
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To: Kurt Evans

One thing you have to look at with those remaining primaries are how many are “winner take all” and how many split the delegates. Also let’s not forget, there is still all those released Romney delegates out there, who know’s how they’ll vote. If I was a betting man, at least half will back McCain.


40 posted on 02/23/2008 4:41:53 AM PST by swimdad387
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