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The $34 trillion problem[Medicare]
Fortune Magazine ^ | 04 Mar 2008 | Geoff Colvin

Posted on 03/04/2008 2:10:48 PM PST by BGHater

Medicare is poised to wreak havoc on the economy. And our presidential candidates are avoiding the issue.

Twice I have asked Alan Greenspan what he considers the greatest threat to the U.S. economy, and both times he has answered immediately with a single word: Medicare. He isn't so worried about the trade deficit and the housing crash; he figures market forces will sort them out. But Medicare is something else - a multitrillion-dollar problem that's about to get dramatically worse, and one that nobody wants to talk about. You'd think that the greatest threat to America's economy would be Topic A for the presidential candidates. But it's actually a topic they hate to touch.

Especially now. An analysis of their speeches shows that last year Senators Hillary Clinton, John McCain, and Barack Obama would occasionally mention the Medicare mess. But recently, with the economy slowing and voters feeling insecure, all three candidates have turned more populist: Their economic talking points are about feel-good reassurances, not about facing hard realities.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; healthcare; hillary; medicare; obama; politics; trillion; universal
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21 posted on 03/04/2008 2:48:50 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: joeystoy

And the first is Social Security? Am I right? Do I win the prize?


22 posted on 03/04/2008 2:50:27 PM PST by crghill (Postmillenial, theonomic, presuppositional, covenantal Calvinist! Let reconstruction begin!)
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To: Brilliant

If not we can just tax smokers and that will pay for everything


23 posted on 03/04/2008 2:50:51 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: joeystoy
Medicare is the second largest Ponzi Scheme in human history.
If you are referring to Social Security, the Medicare situation is much, much worse.

source

24 posted on 03/04/2008 2:51:41 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: BGHater

The only politically possible way out of this mess is means-testing. Democrats will demagogue all day about how cuts in Medicare will cause seniors to drop dead. Let them try and explain why we should pay trillions for seniors who could afford to pay their own bills.

This is not a perfect solution, but it’s one that might have a chance of saving our butts. Medicare is unconstitutional anyway, but the Constitution isn’t all that politically popular, I’m sorry to say.


25 posted on 03/04/2008 3:03:21 PM PST by Our man in washington
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To: oneamericanvoice

It’s never enough no matter who is spending it.


26 posted on 03/04/2008 3:07:13 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Travis McGee

bttt!


27 posted on 03/04/2008 3:07:52 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: BGHater
Raul Castro has endorsed Obamstro!

There is no obesity problems in Cuba. Of course "Sicko" didn't mention that the lack of obese issues is the fact that food is rationed and most Cubans go to bed with empty stomachs!

Of course the Ruling Class doesn't have that problem.

28 posted on 03/04/2008 3:36:38 PM PST by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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To: Mr. Jeeves

The same government that made the Indian treaties will take care of your medical care.


29 posted on 03/04/2008 3:38:28 PM PST by Western Phil
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To: BGHater

30 posted on 03/04/2008 3:44:14 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (No mas Juan "Traitor Rat" McAmnesty)
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To: Our man in washington

How will you “means-test” it?


31 posted on 03/04/2008 4:21:44 PM PST by RichardW
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To: BGHater
Wait for Hillarycare, then we won’t need Medicare and it’s tremendous cost. :-)
32 posted on 03/04/2008 4:58:36 PM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulf BeachClub)
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To: Oldexpat

I’m gonna go get my prostate checked out in India


33 posted on 03/04/2008 5:08:25 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: RichardW

For starters, 1 percent of liquid assets is the annual deductible. Got a million bucks? Great. The deductible is 10 grand. Most people could get some kind of insurance to cover that.

One could throw some ifs, ands, and buts in there as well, but this little measure would do wonders toward getting Medicare in balance.


34 posted on 03/04/2008 5:31:52 PM PST by Our man in washington
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To: dennisw

I had my prostate checked yesterday at the local chinese masage place. Turned out to be A-OK!


35 posted on 03/04/2008 7:06:15 PM PST by Bluestateredman (Self-sufficiency is the American Way)
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To: Bluestateredman

Yeah baby!


36 posted on 03/04/2008 7:13:57 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: qam1
"If not we can just tax smokers and that will pay for everything"

The irony being that the old fogeys voting for cigarette tax increases and smoking bans are the ones who really suck up all the health care $.

37 posted on 03/04/2008 8:02:07 PM PST by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: BGHater
Hmpf...the only person running for President who addressed the problems we face in the future with Social Security, Medicare and the falsehood of universal health care was vilified by FR as a nutjob.

I can't wait to watch the republic burn.

I have a good stockpile of ammunition.

38 posted on 03/04/2008 8:09:05 PM PST by xrp (RON PAUL! To HELL with neo-cons!)
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To: Our man in washington

Would this be self-administered or would another federal bureaucracy need to be formed? Who would enforce it?


39 posted on 03/05/2008 7:58:59 AM PST by RichardW
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To: RichardW

(Whoops, accidentally did that a private reply. Man, I’m tired. Sorry, RichardW. Here’s the public reply—same thing.)

Any means testing would require more bureaucracy. Presumably, the Health Care Financing Administration would have to work jointly with the Internal Revenue Service. I of course find the implications disturbing, but it’s the least worst idea I can think of that might actually get implemented. To solve a 19 trillion dollar problem, one must look at “least worst” options.

But if anyone has a better plan, I’m willing to hear it.


40 posted on 03/05/2008 8:33:04 PM PST by Our man in washington
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