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Did Republican crossovers keep Hillary alive?

Posted on 03/05/2008 8:55:14 AM PST by reaganator

The total of McCain and Huckleby votes in Ohio yesterday were approximately 955,000.

The total of Obama and Clinton votes in Ohio yesterday were approximately 2,150,000.

Clinton won by approximately only 227,000 votes.

Where were the Republicans? Did at least 227,000 Republicans crossover yesterday and vote for Hillary?

In Texas, Clinton won by approximately only 98,000 votes. There in Texas there was also a much smaller number of Republicans voting for McCain and Huckleby. It's sure very reasonable to think that at least 98,000 Republicans crossed over in Texas.

Did the Republican voters keep Hillary in the race?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: crossover; hillary; oh; ri2008; tx2008
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I wouldn't put too much weight on those primary numbers. The Democrat's race is close. The Republican one was pretty much already over.

Crossover voting, and apathy likely kept the Republican numbers lower that they will be in the general election.

However, I do agree that McCain is going to have a hard time carrying Ohio.

The Dems are successfully playing up renegotiating NAFTA. NAFTA has contributed very little to Ohio's loss of manufacturing jobs, but since when does reality matter in regards to politics.

Ohio's economy is hurting, and the Dems are suggesting that they will help solve that, and McCain doesn't seem to be convincing many people that he will help address that problem better than the Democrats.

I think that Ohio having the 5th highest tax burden of any state in the nation has more to do with bleeding manufacturing jobs than anything else. Even when new American manufacturing jobs are being created, they are unlikely to be in Ohio. Even if the American economy as a whole does better, we're going to have fix our own problems at the state level if we want to see the same benefits as other states, but that's not what people want to hear from presidential candidates.

They want a quick fix, and that's what Democrats are promising.

101 posted on 03/05/2008 11:12:17 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: Bobkk47

Good lord relax. She netted 12 delegates into his 140 or so lead. Not many states left. She is on life support even if she wins out.


102 posted on 03/05/2008 11:14:49 AM PST by commonguymd (Let the socialists duke it out.)
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To: reaganator

Ditto heads!


103 posted on 03/05/2008 11:16:24 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: I still care

<”My guess is if Obama’s not on the ticket, the Dem blacks, who have been programmed to view themselves as victims of racism, will be furious at the Dem party - “>

Correction: If Obama is not on the TOP of the ticket Blacks will go nuts.

Sounds like a plan.


104 posted on 03/05/2008 11:21:47 AM PST by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: untrained skeptic

Only 2 bond issues; one local and one county. Neither of which I felt was important. Right now I’m pretty frustrated with the whole political process.


105 posted on 03/05/2008 11:25:48 AM PST by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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To: Antoninus
If they did, they were stupid for doing so.

Agreed. Stupid strategy from the git-go.

106 posted on 03/05/2008 11:30:09 AM PST by The Citizen Soldier (If I have to vote for a maverick, I'll write in James Garner!)
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To: Bobkk47
Thanks Rush. Thanks a lot.

Lame. Do you vote for any given candidate because someone told you to?

107 posted on 03/05/2008 11:39:58 AM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
Well stated, LOL!

And BTW, welcome to Free Republic!

108 posted on 03/05/2008 11:48:32 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: reaganator

No. Obama and his empty-suitedness (NAFTA-Gate) kept Hillary alive.


109 posted on 03/05/2008 11:49:45 AM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: Cicero

On wonders if cities like Philadelphia would yield a greater turnout for Hillary or Obama. I’d guess Hillary would generate the normal turnout of 110%, while Obama might hit 125%. Just mulling.


110 posted on 03/05/2008 11:54:41 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: reaganator
It's hard to kow how much impact crossover votes contributed to Hillary's victory in Texas, but I suspect it was much more than the exit polls indicate. A crossover voter is not very likely to tell the truth to a pollster.

I do not see this harming the Dems at all. They are not landing hard blows. Each candidate has played to their respective base, and now both are doing so from a position of strength. It is a beauty contest for their respective admirers, and now both have more free media exposure than they could ever dream of purchasing.

A far more effective strategy would have been to vote against Hillary. It worked fantastically in the Potomac primary. That was the way to cause real damage. Trigger a meltdown of both her and her campaign. Nothing would have been more demoralizing and devisive to her base than to have her politically destroyed.

The Dems are going to work a deal in the next few weeks. A deal they can all live with and win with. Wounds will be healed, and they will rally their forces and unite to target the real enemy. Plenty of emotional buttons to push to energize every faction--blacks, women, union members, ...
111 posted on 03/05/2008 11:55:25 AM PST by info_scout
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To: madison10

I’m not crazy about McCain either. But there are really things about him I admire. There’s lots of things I don’t like, too, but I’m concentrating on the positive.


112 posted on 03/05/2008 11:57:42 AM PST by twigs
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To: brownsfan

Hey - give you the Ravens for the Browns hehehe!
Ironic that Rush’s theme song is what is ...


113 posted on 03/05/2008 12:45:22 PM PST by Seajay (Ordem e Progresso)
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To: Seajay

“Hey - give you the Ravens for the Browns hehehe!
Ironic that Rush’s theme song is what is ...”

You got a Superbowl. The Browns won’t ever get one. My nickname here has become a misnomer. I’m pretty much disillusioned with Cleveland sports. The best I can hope for is entertaining teams. I’m 50 and can’t remember the last time a Cleveland team won it all, (1964, but I was too young to be aware).

Rush just likes the driving bass line in that song. She’s a raving lib, (Chrissy Hynde). She just build an upscale VEGITARIAN restaurant in a crappy part of Akron. That’s going to go over like a fart in church.


114 posted on 03/05/2008 12:53:03 PM PST by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: All

Rush has a God complex, and seriously miscalculated this one. Dick Morris is right - the Clintons are dangerous and should never be underestimated. How any Republican who wasn’t comatose during the 90’s could pull a lever for a Clinton is beyond me.

Idiots who can pat themselves on the back for their great work if this evil pair manages to pull it off yet again. Better to have slayed the dragon now, IMHO.


115 posted on 03/05/2008 3:05:49 PM PST by nerdgirl (just say NO to posters who are "stuck on mean")
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To: brownsfan

Just wait ‘till next year!

The quadruple threat! Quinn throwing to Edwards, Winslow, Jurivicous and DONTE STALLWORTH!

never say never


116 posted on 03/06/2008 5:55:54 AM PST by reaganator
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To: JackRyanCIA
Perhaps you should quit doing drugs and drinking brewskis on the way home. It will help keep you from doing something stupid again.

You don't have much of a sense of humor, do you Jack? And don't you ever effin' accuse me of doing drugs and drinking while driving! Jerk!

119 posted on 03/09/2008 7:26:00 AM PDT by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com)
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