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The Limbaugh Effect on Clinton’s Texas Win
WSJ ^ | March 6, 2008 | Susan Davis

Posted on 03/07/2008 6:08:22 AM PST by fightinJAG

Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh led a campaign to have his Republican followers in Texas cross party lines and vote for Sen. Hillary Clinton in the state’s open primary last Tuesday. Why? Because Limbaugh thinks Republicans can defeat Clinton in a general election. Plus, watching Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama bloody each other in a nomination fight is pure sport for Limbaugh conservatives.

According to exit polls, Clinton won a notably higher number of Republican voters than she has in past open primary contests. Of the 9% of voters who identified themselves as Republicans in the Democratic Primary, Obama still edged Clinton 53%-46%. However, that margin is significantly slimmer than earlier contests. In Wisconsin’s open primary, for instance, Republicans broke 72%-28% for Obama. Similarly, in Virginia’s open primary, Obama was favored 72%-23%.

Clinton unquestionably secured a Texas victory, but some locals are convinced it was a false win bolstered by dirty politics. Laura Jean Kreissl, an accounting professor at West Texas A&M University, served as an election official in Canyon, Texas on Tuesday. She contacted the Wall Street Journal to report the hijinks she observed at the four precincts that voted at her polling location.

Of the 181 voters she personally dealt with, 70 offered that they were “Rush Limbaugh voters” who were there to cast ballots for Clinton. “I’m here to vote for Hillary Clinton, I want to see the Democratic Party implode,” one voter told Kreissl, she recounted in an interview. “I was just stunned,” she said. “As an election official we can’t say anything. We just jot them down and let them vote.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: hillary; openprimaries; rush; rushlimbaugh; talkradio; tx2008; txprimary
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To: WL-law

Dittos..... To what you said.


21 posted on 03/07/2008 6:44:01 AM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: IrishBrigade
Rush opened the door for Hillary. If she had lost Texas she was finished, and would not have had the leverage to secure the VP slot.

A Clinton administration will be far better prepared to hit the ground running, and will have political revenge/payback among their agenda items. Obama and team would have a steep learning curve, and could be effectively countered in the Senate. This was an irresponsible and ill conceived stunt.
22 posted on 03/07/2008 6:44:33 AM PST by info_scout
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To: IrishBrigade
...agreed...nice Dracula symbolism going on...I was appalled that anyone on the R side of things would aid and abet Hilary, and now having to endure her screeching voice and the media’s fawining ‘Comeback Kid II’reviews is more than I can bear...time for new blood on righty talk radio...

I am heartened by the fact that a large number of Freepers have spoken out against this "strategery". From here on, I will remember 3/4/08 as "The Day (Misguided) Genius Thwarted Common Sense and Principle".

An alternative title could also be "The Day Rush Jumped The Shark."

23 posted on 03/07/2008 6:45:46 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Forget it...I'll never be able to pull the lever for McCain!)
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To: conservativeinferno

“...Remember, you can’t teach a liberal until their own tactics backfire.”

and then they still don’t learn, or retain what they may have for an instance at least positively acknowledged.

Caught up in a whirlwind of illusion their heads constantly spinning.


24 posted on 03/07/2008 6:46:28 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: conservativeinferno
Both parties did the open primary thing in Oregon, maybe 10-12 years ago. GOP did it for one election cycle, the Dims subsequently did the same. Neither state organization liked it after trying it and we are back to closed primaries, as it probably should be. There is still a sort of “movement” to go to open primaries but it has gained no traction.
25 posted on 03/07/2008 6:47:55 AM PST by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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To: WL-law

You are 100% wrong...Almost EVERY poll shows that Hillary Clinton has the highest negatives of almost anyone in the WORLD...these polls suggest that she is IN FACT the
more defeatable. 50% say they CAN’T wait to VOTE AGAINST her.

Now, having said that, I think it a mistake for Rush to call for GOPers to vote for her. GOPers will be BLAMED (as the media is doing in this article) for the defeat of a BLACK canidate (if Obama does not get the nomination).

We had a chance here that should Hillary by hook and crook get the nomination, many blacks would vote for McCain to pay Hillary back...NOW, unfortunately, they will not vote for McCain because the MEDIA is telling them that the only reason Hillary won Texas was due to republican voters...and the will spin the “republicans are racists” crap. Rush handed this spin to them.


26 posted on 03/07/2008 6:48:45 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: fightinJAG

Wait a minute?? I thought Limbaugh had lost his touch and his control of the GOP when he couldn’t get his candidate elected.


27 posted on 03/07/2008 6:49:11 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Any Monday you can walk away from is a good one.)
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To: fightinJAG

The fact is that Obama won Texas. He picked up five more delegates than Hillary. It is hard to find that in the MSM.


28 posted on 03/07/2008 6:49:21 AM PST by kabar
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To: fightinJAG
Rush Limbaugh is also convinced. “Don’t Doubt the Limbaugh Effect,” he boasts on his web site.

IMO...this is what Limbaugh wanted all along: to claim he is responsible for Hillary winning! He gets to pat himself on the back, he gets more ratings, free publicity, and more sheep (listeners) to be lead around by the nose!
29 posted on 03/07/2008 6:49:29 AM PST by TexanByBirth (Now that the Texas primary is over, would all yall from out-of-state please go away!)
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To: fightinJAG
I object to “teaching” people that it’s okay to view one’s vote as nothing more than a poker chip to play around with.

Politics is a game of chaos. Nothing more.

And your vote IS just a poker chip, whether you feel morally indignant about the fact or not.

30 posted on 03/07/2008 6:50:01 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: conservativeinferno

“Remember, you can’t teach a liberal until their own tactics backfire.”

exactly.
At first I thought it was a silly thing and didn’t think many republicans would actually follow through.

When I heard Limbaugh say on the air the following day that he hoped the dems were just as happy with the candidate we chose for them, as we were with the candidate they chose for us (not just w/ crossover voting - but with MSM support as well) - I decided it wasn’t so silly afterall.


31 posted on 03/07/2008 6:50:08 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Cracker Jack

You make some very good points. We had to show ID to vote in the first primary. I had not considered the dems who voted for McCain - very interesting. The national dem party’s decision to punish Michigan and Florida seems to be having the opposite effect. It appears to now be punishing the dem party.


32 posted on 03/07/2008 6:52:18 AM PST by mouske
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To: fightinJAG
If the Republicans voted for Obama with the same huge margin they did before he would have won Texas in the popular vote, although despite his popular vote loss there he is going to win 9-10 delegates more than Hillary Clinton in Texas.
33 posted on 03/07/2008 6:52:19 AM PST by jveritas (Rush Limbaugh for President (extreme sarcasm))
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To: Non-Sequitur

You have to change your affiliation something like 6 weeks before an election, I am not sure of the exact time frame. And I am thinking about switching.
In Michigan, that would be very interesting since you can cross over the same day there.


34 posted on 03/07/2008 6:54:44 AM PST by libbylu (I voted for Nixon,Ford,Reagan,Bush,Dole,Bush. NO WAY MCCAIN.)
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To: Double Tap
>>I have a lot of doubt the Republican voters made the difference for Hillary.<<

Certainly for Texas I agree. We knew going in that Dem Hispanics were predominately aligned with Clinton so her winning Texas should only be a surprise to those who have not yet had to learn Spanish to conduct business in their home State.

35 posted on 03/07/2008 6:54:53 AM PST by Muleteam1
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To: fightinJAG

I voted in the Texas democrat primary to re-pay the cross over democRAT voters in NH, who voted for McNasty. I have been a republican since 1972. Go Hillary Go. Let them eat cake! I did not know Rush wanted a party switch in TX? I am a FM listener. This is going to be a fun primary, and a hoot of a convention in Denver. Shades of Chicago.


36 posted on 03/07/2008 6:55:36 AM PST by jonathan-swift2000 (The Good news from Iraq the MSM won't publish.)
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To: WL-law

I agree with you 100% and cannot describe how ANGRY I am at Rush and his acolytes (Sean, Laura, Bob Grant etc.) for promoting this so-called “strategy” for days prior to the Texas and Ohio primaries. It is a terrible thing to say but I was happy Rush was sick the actual day of the primaries so that he lost a day of continuing with that drumbeat.

I don’t know if you have noticed but Rush returned on Wednesday to considerable heat from listeners and the announced he was taking the next couple of days (Thursday and Friday) off. If you ask me he was running for the hills as now Hillary’s campaign has been revived and she is at least one step closer to being CIC.

Thanks Rush, for allowing these grifters another shot at the White House.


37 posted on 03/07/2008 6:56:31 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: Cracker Jack
Also, it is a dirty politics when Republicans vote for Clinton (and even dirtier when they vote for Republican!), but when they voted for Obama it was “a bipartisanship” and “the national unity” transcend blah-blah-blah...
38 posted on 03/07/2008 6:56:43 AM PST by alecqss
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To: Night Hides Not

Rush jumped the shark the day that he, like millions of other “grown” men, decided that it was a felony to be photographed without a cigar, the day, in short, when he said to himself (only after millions of other non-thinking lemmings had started a trend)”Hey! If I go around with a big cigar I will look powerful, mature, and sophisticated.” On that day, he became just another 15 year old kid looking to define himself.


39 posted on 03/07/2008 6:58:26 AM PST by ProfessorGage
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To: conservativeinferno

It’s impossible to make a lib play “fair” until you slap them with their own tactics.

It will be DE-licious to see Hillary steal the nomination via the dhimmirats’ own version of the electoral college.


40 posted on 03/07/2008 6:58:29 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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