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Sadr takes break from politics, cites failures
Chicago Tribune ^ | 3-08-08 | Liz Sly

Posted on 03/08/2008 10:50:00 PM PST by atomic conspiracy

BAGHDAD - Iraq's elusive Shiite cleric Moqtada Sadr has decided to drop out of politics for the time being because his disillusionment with the political scene in Iraq has left him sick and anxious, he said in an unusually personal letter to his followers released Friday. In a written response to a query from a group of followers asking why he hadn't been seen in public for so long, Sadr said he had decided to devote himself to a period of study, reflection and prayer after failing in his core mission to rid Iraq of the U.S. occupation or to turn it into an Islamic society. He also cited the betrayal of some followers, whom he accused of falling prey to "materialistic" politics. "So far I did not succeed either to liberate Iraq or make it an Islamic society -- whether because of my own inability or the inability of society, only God knows," Sadr wrote. "The continued presence of the occupiers, on the one hand, and the disobedience of many on the other, pushed me to isolate myself in protest. I gave society a big proportion of my life. Even my body became weaker, I got more sicknesses." Speculation has been intensifying as to the whereabouts of the maverick cleric, whose Mahdi Army militia twice fought U.S. troops in 2004 and then was accused of many of the sectarian killings of Sunnis that pushed Iraq to the brink of civil war. His last public statement came two weeks ago, when he renewed the six-month cease-fire that has been credited with helping bring down the levels of violence in Iraq. But he has not been seen in public since May.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alsadr; goodriddance; iraq; moqtadasadr; retired; sadr; tater
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Good riddance. I am beginning to think we have won the war. If so, it would be the greatest defeat for activist media since Goebbels poisoned himself.
1 posted on 03/08/2008 10:50:01 PM PST by atomic conspiracy
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To: atomic conspiracy

In other words he got beat and he knows it.


2 posted on 03/08/2008 10:53:43 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: atomic conspiracy

I bet those “letters” from Sadr to his goons, are the same as reports on Castros “excellent” health. I hope Sadr is rotting in an Iranian hospital.


3 posted on 03/08/2008 10:54:03 PM PST by SolidWood (All conservative effort into retaking Congress!)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Maybe he has seen the lightTurned a new page

... hell, screw that. Lets IED hisazz first chance we get. On principal.


4 posted on 03/08/2008 10:55:48 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: rdl6989

I can reduce the story into a eight short words.

We lost, I do not want to die.


5 posted on 03/08/2008 10:59:59 PM PST by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: atomic conspiracy

When you use relentless blunt force as General Petraeus has done, You win over the hearts and minds in the correct way...


6 posted on 03/08/2008 11:05:40 PM PST by avacado
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To: atomic conspiracy

any proof he’s alive? anyone can write letters in his name


7 posted on 03/08/2008 11:08:51 PM PST by ari-freedom (McCain must pick a conservative VP if he wants conservative support)
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To: atomic conspiracy
Iraq's elusive Shiite cleric Moqtada Sadr has decided to drop out of politics for the time being because his disillusionment with the political scene in Iraq has left him sick and anxious, he has been unable to impose his 14th century Wahabbi / Sharia crap on the more secular Iraqi society and failed in his attempt to start a civil war he said in an unusually personal letter to his followers released Friday. In a written response to a query from a group of followers asking why he hadn't been seen in public for so long...
8 posted on 03/08/2008 11:13:02 PM PST by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: atomic conspiracy
I am beginning to think we have won the war. If so, it would be the greatest defeat for activist media since Goebbels poisoned himself.

He's said "Allah willing" so many times maybe he's finally come to the realization that He isn't.

9 posted on 03/08/2008 11:16:26 PM PST by Poison Pill
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To: atomic conspiracy

The leftards with their rant-o-chant about how the surge has failed, etc etc... kind of reminds me of good ol’ Baghdad Bob.


10 posted on 03/08/2008 11:24:16 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: ari-freedom

Real or not, it’s very demoralizing to the Shi’ah for this to be out there. That’s a good thing.


11 posted on 03/08/2008 11:28:44 PM PST by forkinsocket
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To: Grimmy
The leftards with their rant-o-chant about how the surge has failed, etc etc... kind of reminds me of good ol’ Baghdad Bob.

Good analogy. LOL

When I think back to how things were here a year ago and look at how they are now, it is truly amazing. The coalition and the Iraqis have made giant strides in having the Iraqis properly trained to take over their own security. Al Qaeda and the militias have lost control of this and the Iraqi citizens have finally realized that they are empowered to do their share in achieving peace. They are beginning to recognize what true freedom is and I personally think that five years is a very short time for them to have come this far.

12 posted on 03/08/2008 11:33:00 PM PST by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: forkinsocket

yeah it actually doesn’t sound like the positive spin someone would write to prop up a dead Bernie. So maybe he is alive...but defeated.


13 posted on 03/08/2008 11:33:47 PM PST by ari-freedom (McCain must pick a conservative VP if he wants conservative support)
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To: atomic conspiracy

An article yesterday on FR claimed he had been poisoned and was in a coma. It was from a ME site.

Or am I imagining this?


14 posted on 03/08/2008 11:37:23 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: Grimmy; Allegra

15 posted on 03/08/2008 11:37:38 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory. - George Patton)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Here it is ... Sadr comatose in hospital:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1981171/posts


16 posted on 03/08/2008 11:39:55 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: atomic conspiracy

“”So far I did not succeed either to liberate Iraq or make it an Islamic society — whether because of my own inability or the inability of society, only God knows,” Sadr wrote.”

It is Allah’s Will that you fail!


17 posted on 03/08/2008 11:48:41 PM PST by james500
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To: ari-freedom

I had read an article a few days ago that Mookie was in an Iranian hospital in a coma from some sort of poisioning.


18 posted on 03/08/2008 11:58:45 PM PST by skimask (Support Terrorism......Vote Democratic)
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To: BunnySlippers
An article yesterday on FR claimed he had been poisoned and was in a coma. It was from a ME site.

Or am I imagining this?

No, you're not imagining it. That rumor has been floated out. What's interesting is that the Iraqis don't seem to be buying into it. I live in a Shi'ite part of town, but most of the Iraqis I know think Sadr is a pain-in-the-butt troublemaker. They say his followers are all a bunch of easily-led idiots. However, they don't seem to believe the coma story...at least not yet.

19 posted on 03/08/2008 11:59:01 PM PST by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: red flanker

If more news of peace in Iraq gets known...we are royally screwed!

20 posted on 03/09/2008 12:01:43 AM PST by red flanker
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To: atomic conspiracy

I hope he takes a break from life on this planet soon.


21 posted on 03/09/2008 12:07:39 AM PST by DB
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To: atomic conspiracy

I use to think whacking this guy was the answer but it looks more like keeping him alive destroys him even better. Divide and Conquer.


22 posted on 03/09/2008 4:00:14 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: rdl6989
you get beat = offer a truce
you know it = write a letter
23 posted on 03/09/2008 4:27:09 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: atomic conspiracy

>>I am beginning to think we have won the war. If so, it would be the greatest defeat for activist media since Goebbels poisoned himself.

That’s a heckuva line right there - I’m going to use that.


24 posted on 03/09/2008 4:38:43 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Allegra

Haven’t heard about Iraq’s ‘civil war’ in some time.


25 posted on 03/09/2008 4:49:23 AM PDT by balk (thefightnetwork.com)
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To: atomic conspiracy
I am beginning to think we have won the war.

The private militias like Sadr's Mahdi Army are laying low.
Rather than fight our troops and get wiped out thay are just waiting for us to declare victory and leave.

But what will happen the second we leave and all these private militias come out of their ratholes to pick up the slaughter where they left off?

It is sad to say, but I think Iraq will become another militant muslim stronghold in less than six months of our departure.

26 posted on 03/09/2008 4:51:43 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: balk

Thats because of the Obamafication of the news,all is right with the world soon. Kumbiya.....YES WE CAN!....[ BARF!!!]


27 posted on 03/09/2008 4:56:08 AM PDT by Nekman (The MSM has been S.O.S for decades!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: atomic conspiracy

.....whether because of my own inability or the inability of society, only God knows......

The answer as all Muslims know is that his failure to prevail is Gods Will. He can’t bring himself to say it outloud though like all Muslims he proclaims the outcome of the most trivial of events to be fatalisticaly determined.


28 posted on 03/09/2008 5:01:08 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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To: balk
Haven’t heard about Iraq’s ‘civil war’ in some time.

Well, it really only ever existed in the liberals' and their media enablers' minds. :-)

29 posted on 03/09/2008 5:19:40 AM PDT by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: Nekman; balk
Thats because of the Obamafication of the news,all is right with the world soon. Kumbiya.....YES WE CAN!....[ BARF!!!]

It's really because the progress in Iraq became too great for the media to conceal.

In 2005, I started predicting that would eventually happen and that when it did, the media would just stop reporting anything out of Iraq.

30 posted on 03/09/2008 5:23:53 AM PDT by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: atomic conspiracy

I thought I read a report the other day that he has been in a coma for a long period of time, in Iran.

Hmmmmmm?


31 posted on 03/09/2008 6:09:23 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: savedbygrace

Comment first, then read thread. That My preferred method.

(Sheesh, if I’d only read the thread first, I wouldn’t have made a reply here at all.)


32 posted on 03/09/2008 6:11:00 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: atomic conspiracy
"Goebbels poisoned himself."

Nit pick alert!

Goebbels and his wife poisoned their children, then committed suicide.

Goering took cyanide in his cell during the Nurenberg Trials.

33 posted on 03/09/2008 6:17:43 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: atomic conspiracy
my body became weaker, I got more sicknesses

Ah...the Mook is weak and sick.

GOOD! Just the way we like ya...beoch.

34 posted on 03/09/2008 6:25:35 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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>>>>I am beginning to think we have won the war. If so, it would be the greatest defeat for activist media since Goebbels poisoned himself.<<<<<<<

That’s a heckuva line right there - I’m going to use that.

Me too.

35 posted on 03/09/2008 6:56:00 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Grimmy

I miss him! ha.


36 posted on 03/09/2008 7:06:59 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: atomic conspiracy

Will he right a book about his kampf?


37 posted on 03/09/2008 7:31:47 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: atomic conspiracy; FARS
There were reports last week that Mookie was very sick from food poisoning. Some even said he would not survive. In any case he is pure evil and needs to be exterminated.
38 posted on 03/09/2008 7:37:47 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: atomic conspiracy

He takes his orders from Tehran. Period.

Why does the press insist on referring to him as a “maverick”? How does he fit the definition of that word? Is binLaden just a maverick?


39 posted on 03/09/2008 7:44:40 AM PDT by nuconvert (There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Do you believe in the forgiveness of sins?
Then can you forgive this post:

poor, poor Moqti. He is now Sadr but wiser.

(no, no don’t throw it!) ;-)


40 posted on 03/09/2008 8:21:36 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: nuconvert

Same as McCain. He fights against the will of US conservatives, and sides with dems... Therefore “Maverick”


41 posted on 03/09/2008 8:27:55 AM PDT by xmission (Democrats have killed our Soldiers by rewarding the enemy for brutality)
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To: atomic conspiracy
If so, it would be the greatest defeat for activist media since Goebbels poisoned himself.

I agree with everyone else, that's a fantastic line.

42 posted on 03/09/2008 9:02:37 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: atomic conspiracy

Translation:

To all my followers—

We’re getting our asses kicked by the infidels. Better to give up than be blown up, insha’allah...er...wait...

Well you get the point. We’ve lost!

-Mookie


43 posted on 03/09/2008 9:15:37 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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To: Numbers Guy; Jimmy Valentine; FreedomPoster
"I agree with everyone else, that's a fantastic line."

Many thanks! Feel free to borrow it, but poster Jimmy Valentine has pointed out that Goebbels actually shot himself (his family was poisoned). Not being a media fraud myself, I have to stand corrected. The line should be changed to ".... the greatest defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself." Still works, though; maybe even better.

44 posted on 03/09/2008 9:16:31 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Rousing the blog-rabble since 9-11-01)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Scared shiiteless?


45 posted on 03/09/2008 9:19:13 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: atomic conspiracy
Image hosted by Photobucket.com 10 to 1 says the boy is as big as a house from all the comfort food he's been shoveling down his throat too...
46 posted on 03/09/2008 9:29:48 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: atomic conspiracy
"the greatest defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself."

I would go with this one; "the greatest media defeat since Hitler went into the Bubker."

But, that's just me. ;-)

47 posted on 03/09/2008 9:42:41 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: atomic conspiracy

“Materialistic politics” win out again. The iman’s promise of virgins in the afterlife gets drowned out by the whirring of dishwasher motors and and the boisterous din of life in the here and now. Predicted here some time back. Ruthlessness followed up by sizeable dollops of benevolency works. You want the whip or an ice cream cone?


48 posted on 03/09/2008 10:24:46 AM PDT by kinghorse (Antichrist or Cloverhill? Either way we end up face down under the collapsed bridge.)
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To: red flanker

that’s just it. they aren’t being held accountable at all. they assume the relaxed drunk position in a wreck and walk away without a scratch. If these two get re-elected being so wrong, what does that say about their constituency?


49 posted on 03/09/2008 10:28:22 AM PDT by kinghorse (Antichrist or Cloverhill? Either way we end up face down under the collapsed bridge.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

I’d have preferred that he’d had to deliver this message by Ouija board.


50 posted on 03/09/2008 10:52:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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