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Who Is to Blame for American Teens Ignorant of History and Literature?
Family Security Matters ^ | 3/13/08 | Rita Kramer

Posted on 03/13/2008 7:05:05 AM PDT by captjanaway

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To: realdifferent1

Yup, the law was known informally as the “Lindbergh law.”


41 posted on 03/13/2008 8:02:52 AM PDT by thulldud (Insanity: Electing John McCain again and expecting a different result.)
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To: LetsRok
But Lindbergh was a pilot/NAZI sypathizer.

Lindbergh was connected with "America First", an organization of isolationists whose aim was to keep America from getting into a European war (again!) At the time he was in Nazi Germany, whole shoals of American "intelligentsia" were fawning and cooing over Joseph Stalin, as he was starving the Ukraine into submission. We can spit on the image of Charles Lindbergh, but we can't say anything about Stalin lovers, even though their stance on Hitler flip-flopped in lockstep with Stalin's interests, while Lindbergh served honorably in the war as an American patriot.

42 posted on 03/13/2008 8:11:36 AM PDT by thulldud (Insanity: Electing John McCain again and expecting a different result.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Now you've hit the nail on the head.
They started the destruction of America in the 1960s, took over Universities and the curriculum and way of teaching that had worked for generations beforehand.
43 posted on 03/13/2008 8:13:45 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: babble-on
Visited Nazi Germany three times in the thirties, was decorated with the verdienstkreuz by Goering, never renounced it or returned it. Hard to say he was not a sympathizer, even if perhaps not an outright Nazi.

He was naive, but the fact that he had the trust of the Nazis, meant that he was able to gather a lot of valuable information on the state of the German armed forces, at that time. And when war came out, he did fly missions in the Pacific theater, although FDR didn't want him, and wanted it to not be found out.

44 posted on 03/13/2008 8:15:01 AM PDT by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: dfwgator

so at least he wasn’t a Japanese Imperialist!


45 posted on 03/13/2008 8:16:35 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: captjanaway

American Teens Ignorant of History and Literature?
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Why bother teaching it. It’ll be erased, revised or destroyed when radical Islam takes over. Instead it’s much more effective to teach our kids how bad we’ve been and we are and the reasons why they should hate their country and it’s ideals.


46 posted on 03/13/2008 8:16:42 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: MEGoody

If you teach to the test that is all you teach. If it is not on the test you ignore it. This means whole parts of history are never covered, hence one knows nothing of WW1. Fact is very little of WW2 is covered. This is what happens when the curriculum is slowly and surely narrowed so that the low performers can score a passing grade on THE TEST.


47 posted on 03/13/2008 8:17:53 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: LetsRok
But Lindbergh was a pilot/NAZI sypathizer. That should be the historical context of Charles Lindbergh, not the kidnapping.

It would seems that some might disagree with you...

Below is quoted on Wikipedia from another more respected source:

Lindbergh was suspected of being a Nazi sympathizer because of his numerous scientific expeditions to Nazi Germany, combined with a belief in eugenics. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt considered him a Nazi and banned him from rejoining the military. Lindbergh's subsequent combat missions as a civilian consultant restored his reputation after the public found out about them, but only to an extent. However, his Pulitzer Prize-winning biographer, A. Scott Berg, contends that Lindbergh was not so much a supporter of the Nazi regime as someone so stubborn in his convictions and relatively inexperienced in political maneuvering that he easily allowed rivals to portray him as one. Lindbergh's receipt of the German medal was approved without objection by the American embassy; the war had not yet begun in Europe. Indeed, the award did not cause controversy until the war began and Lindbergh returned to the United States in 1939 to spread his message of non-intervention.
48 posted on 03/13/2008 8:18:53 AM PDT by Lucky Dog
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To: captjanaway
Because "basic" history gets pushed out of the way for the Revisionist "new" history, which takes more time to get right.

Literature has been replaced with "heather has two mommies" and any crap about rap and crime and grit and death on the streets, y'know, stuff "that's real". (Real crap, that is.)

49 posted on 03/13/2008 8:20:51 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I kid because I love . . . and I loved and now have kids.)
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To: captjanaway

Karl Marx: “A people without a heritage are easily persuaded.” That explains his own followers and our American educational system.


50 posted on 03/13/2008 8:23:04 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: captjanaway
Is this a trick question?

Is there anyone today who isn't aware of the success of the long term plans perfected by the Bolsheviks 80 years ago to undermine the West through inflitrating and warping our “educational system” ?

51 posted on 03/13/2008 8:24:04 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Malesherbes
You beat me by sixty seconds.
52 posted on 03/13/2008 8:29:44 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: LetsRok

You need to go back to school and study comprehension. The writer is not saying the headlines have anything to do with history. The author is stating that seeing a headline about Hitler or Lindbergh today would be deja vu, as in seeing the same headline - from 20 years ago - concerning American students today.


53 posted on 03/13/2008 8:31:03 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Lucky Dog

Seeing that their are numerous opinions about Lindbergh, that shows at least some are aware of enough about the man and time to have a dicussion. Eventually, these snippets in time will not be covered at all in school.


54 posted on 03/13/2008 8:31:16 AM PDT by LetsRok
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To: MrB

An extremely profound statement - one in which I will steal and use. Thank you.


55 posted on 03/13/2008 8:32:52 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Tanniker Smith
Because "basic" history gets pushed out of the way for the Revisionist "new" history...

Basically yes. It's almost impossible to find a history text which is not heavily compromised by this socialist twaddle. We've been using "Quest of a Hemisphere" along with modern supplements in our homeschool program.

And it's not just history which gets shortchanged--Foreign Language Arts, Mathematics, Science, Literature, Writing and Music.

56 posted on 03/13/2008 8:37:27 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: ontap
This is something I have never understood. What is THE TEST? I do not have children so please bear with me. When I went to school, we were taught different subjects - English, Math, History, Business, Government, etc. We had quizzes and tests during a six-week period, testing us what we learned during the week. At the end of the six weeks, we would have a comprehensive test, coverning what we were suppose to learn during that six weeks. At the mid-term, we had a large, comprehensive test covering what we covered during the term. At the end of the school year, he had our finals, covering what we learned during the year. All these tests and quizzes were compiled and averaged, along with your attendence, and you got a grade. You either passed - with a score equaling an A through D score - or failed - below 70.

So again, what is this TEST and at what point did it become the sole factor of graduating from High School?

57 posted on 03/13/2008 8:47:36 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: captjanaway

Satan.... and his children, the DNC.


58 posted on 03/13/2008 8:48:16 AM PDT by Tolkien (There are things more important than Peace. Freedom being one of those.)
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To: dfwgator

Yes, he was. He gave speeches in the United States supporing Hitler and I believe even visited Germany in the 30’s. Look it up.


59 posted on 03/13/2008 8:48:55 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Not only a true story, it is only one of many.

How about the young undergrad I was tutoring on her senior thesis? She proudly told me she’d already done all the research and written the paper.

The only problem was she continually mixed up facts and speeches of Richard Nickson (sic) and Ronald Reagan in the paper. When I brought that up, she was miffed and said she only wanted me to check her grammar.

She blithely told me she already had a teaching job at a local high school as soon as she graduated.

I come from a generation that had great teachers, maybe because the only serious jobs open to women in those days were nursing and teaching so we got the best and the brightest.

Kids are less naturally gifted IQ-wise today than we were. They simply are reaping the result of decades and decades of NEA pushing ‘goo-goo’, feel good teaching with no accountability. Of course this style is less difficult to teach—and dumber teachers can survive under the less demanding regime.

As a result, the really good student who have a desire and the ability to learn largely on their own are doing great—but those who won’t or can’t rise about the level of their teachers are getting shortchanged.

And the public can’t figure out how to reform their schools. There would be no reason for home-schooling if the public schools were still doing the job they did fifty years ago.


60 posted on 03/13/2008 8:49:45 AM PDT by wildbill
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