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Saying No to the Nanny State (FIRST THEY CAME FOR THE SMOKERS AND I DID NOT SPEAK OR OBJECT.....)
Intelectual Conservative ^ | March 13, 2008 | Lisa Fabrizio

Posted on 03/15/2008 7:45:46 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet

Liberals get really testy when some folks, devout Christians for example, choose to live their lives under God’s laws; but have no compunction in compelling others to live under the tender mercies of the Nanny State where they make the rules.

Five years ago, when the smoking ban in restaurants first went into effect in my home state of Connecticut, I told a few folks who were happy about it, that it was only a matter of time before the government came after their private property rights or other issues that were near and dear to their hearts. Most people scoffed at my defense of the restaurant owners’ property rights and one fellow actually said, “"The problem with you people is that all you care about is the Constitution."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: fabrizio; fascism; marxism; nannystate; nany; power; pufflist; rights; socialism; state
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"First they came for tobacco users and their "right" to smoke in "private" establishments, and I did not speak up or object, because I don't smoke and furthermore, believe it is a dirty, smelly, nasty, disgusting and ANOYING, habit...........

"Then they came for foods that contain trans fats and I didn't speak up or object, because I eat healthy and besides, this did not really affect me.........

"Next they came after children for eating candy in school and I didn’t speak up or object, because I don’t have children or considered this simply an isolated and extreme situation……

(Conn. student suspended for buying candy in school) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1984558/posts

Okay all of you defenders of the Nanny-Nazi-Police-State ( having delegated to themselves Extraconstitutional powers) who have begun arbitrarily regulating many of our personal (LEGAL) activities and choices (OF WHICH YOU DID NOT PARTAKE OR CONSIDERED PERSONALLY OFFENSIVE, THERFORE, SUPPORTED) we tried to warn you, but you dismissed us as fear-mongering, self-serving, irrational, dotes.

(AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST OFFENDERS WAS ELLIOT--"John #9--SPITZER WHEN HE BULLIED AND THREATENED CREDIT CARD COMPANIES FROM PROCESSING PURCHASES OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS ONLINE AS WELL AS FEX EX AND UPS FROM ACCEPTING SHIPMENT OF SAME)

We attempted to alert all, that this was all about POWER as opposed to legitimate "health issues," and all about "the chilluns," but you would not listen.

Well, the proverbial chickens are predictably coming home to roost. Which “right” or “freedom” do well all enjoy, will be the next target of the power-hungry-nanny-state?

You know who you are. How do you like it now?

1 posted on 03/15/2008 7:45:49 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; ..

Nanny State Ping


2 posted on 03/15/2008 7:48:33 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

apparently intellectualism is so overextended that it had one of its L’s repossesed.


3 posted on 03/15/2008 7:48:56 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A moderate Muslim is one who acts like a Christian.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Ironically, I was just reading another thread where I found the following quote from Daniel Webster.

“The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions.”


4 posted on 03/15/2008 7:51:39 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
"apparently intellectualism is so overextended that it had one of its L’s repossesed". (sic)

Okay, I give up. Please elucidate us!!

5 posted on 03/15/2008 7:55:09 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

The spelling in the link.


6 posted on 03/15/2008 7:58:22 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
I'll trade you an L for an S.

I hate when I do that. But then, I don't think I've ever claimed to be an intellectual. Quite the contrary, in fact.

7 posted on 03/15/2008 7:59:10 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A moderate Muslim is one who acts like a Christian.)
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To: sageb1
"Ironically, I was just reading another thread where I found the following quote from Daniel Webster.

“The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions.”

Another Quote which comes to mind attributed to Samuel Johnson in 1775: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

While there is debate about the exact quote, even earlier than that, it's was attributed to Saint Bernard of Clairvaux (1091-1153) as saying: "Hell is full of good intentions or desires."

Either way, the meaning is more apropos today than ever.

8 posted on 03/15/2008 8:01:46 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All)
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To: metmom

Sorry, my friend, for a second ping to this, but I pinged the whole list before reading the entire article, which I highly recomend to you as it deals extensively with the California Homeschool ruling.


9 posted on 03/15/2008 8:02:12 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

THEY are coming for the maple syrup next.


10 posted on 03/15/2008 8:04:17 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools these mortals be!")
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To: w1andsodidwe
The spelling in the link.

Thank you. Unlike Libs/Dhimis, I accept FULL responsibility for the faux pas.

Will ten lashes with a wet noodle, suffice as suitable punishment? lol

11 posted on 03/15/2008 8:04:49 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All)
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To: verity
THEY are coming for the maple syrup next.

All jocularity aside, I would not rule this out.

Of course while I love Vermont Maple Syrup, I'm presently trying to lose a "few" pounds.

Thus I would not speak up or object, as this does not affect me. /s

12 posted on 03/15/2008 8:07:38 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Maybe we could replace it with a 1. I’ve seen that done somewhere before. ;)


13 posted on 03/15/2008 8:08:49 AM PDT by LilAngel (FReeping on a cell phone is like making Christmas dinner in an Easy Bake Oven)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

No, first they came for pot and other drugs, and you not only didn’t object, you supported them vociferously because you agreed it was “bad for you.” Now that they have come for the smokers, trans fats, and candy you have no cause to object because you helped establish the precedent. Pity.


14 posted on 03/15/2008 8:09:44 AM PDT by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Southerngl

Here’s a Kelo connection article.


15 posted on 03/15/2008 8:09:59 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Land of the Fee, Home of the Shamed)
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To: LilAngel
Maybe we could replace it with a 1. I’ve seen that done somewhere before. ;)

Mine's not for sale.

16 posted on 03/15/2008 8:11:31 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A moderate Muslim is one who acts like a Christian.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

You also get the Nanny State even in the halls of Corporate America. One of the vehicles I own is a P/U truck. It is a 17 year old truck and it has a few dents from off-roading. It has a double pipe bumper in the back and a roll bar on top. Where I use to work at, one of the executives (woman, born and bred in the Washington DC area and worked for IBM at one time) didn’t like seeing it by the building. I found a nice tow notice on the driver’s side window. I got then called in, got chewed out for parking it by the building and was told it was an eyesore and it will be parked away from the building. That executive mentioned through my manager that crappy looking trucks should be banned as well. I know many East Coast states target old vehicles through safety inspection laws. As soon as the national requirement was lifted in 1981, most states got rid of it.


17 posted on 03/15/2008 8:12:35 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
Okay, I give up. Please elucidate us!!

Of course I totally missed the set up. I could have said, "They already came for the "L"" or something but, no, I had to make it complicated...

18 posted on 03/15/2008 8:13:03 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A moderate Muslim is one who acts like a Christian.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Oh, I can understand that. It would leave a gaping hole.


19 posted on 03/15/2008 8:15:28 AM PDT by LilAngel (FReeping on a cell phone is like making Christmas dinner in an Easy Bake Oven)
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To: LilAngel

I wouldn’t be able to log in.


20 posted on 03/15/2008 8:16:26 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A moderate Muslim is one who acts like a Christian.)
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