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Start Writing the Eulogies for Print Encyclopedias
New York Times ^ | March 16, 2008 | NOAM COHEN

Posted on 03/16/2008 11:13:04 AM PDT by SamAdams76

IT has never been easier to read up on a favorite topic, whether it’s an obscure philosophy, a tiny insect or an overexposed pop star. Just don’t count on being able to thumb through the printed pages of an encyclopedia to do it.

A series of announcements from publishers across the globe in the last few weeks suggests that the long migration to the Internet has picked up pace, and that ahead of other books, magazines and even newspapers, the classic multivolume encyclopedia is well on its way to becoming the first casualty in the end of print...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: encyclopedias; informationage; internet; trends
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To: ansel12
Good stuff. There were days when several door-to-door salespeople would come around every day back in the 1970s. Not just encyclopedias, but vacuum cleaners, magazine subscriptions, vinyl siding, driveway sealing, etc.

Now the only people that seem to come around are Jehovah's Witnesses!

I suppose that as an encyclopedia saleman, you'd want to focus on houses that had bicycles or swing sets in the yard, and then make initial contact before the husband got home from work (and let the wife sell the husband for you).

I remember how the salespeople really pushed on subscribing to the "updated" volumes that would come out annually after the initial set was bought so I guess that must be how they make most of their commissions?

41 posted on 03/16/2008 1:18:46 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 44 days away from outliving Dan Quisenberry)
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To: SamAdams76

Encyclopedias are good for looking up references that others may make, but they are historical and reading them is only for catch-up.


42 posted on 03/16/2008 1:21:08 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: SamAdams76

“I suppose that as an encyclopedia saleman, you’d want to focus on houses that had bicycles or swing sets in the yard, and then make initial contact before the husband got home from work (and let the wife sell the husband for you). “


No, that would not work, it was a tightly controlled and orchestrated 55 minutes of positive persuasion of them as a couple, the deal had to be rock solid because in my era, the 3 day cancellation clause had entered the picture, which meant that a signature was no longer the end of the deal.

Some of the wildest characters I ever met were the old school guys that only needed a signature. I never met any of them that could succeed in the three day cancellation era, they were great showmen and con men, but their effect was temporary and the customers would cancel their contracts. (They all became professional motivators)

The ten years of updating services compressed into a 36 month payment schedule were simply the cost of the set of the entire purchase and commission (huge).

After all, ten years off updating services for what, the cost of a couple cups of coffee a day, a couple of quarters a day, just remember to send that letter in telling us how you use the books and I can place this set in your home for free.


43 posted on 03/16/2008 1:37:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (Ronald W. Reagan and William F. Buckley Jr., both were U.S. Army veterans.)
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To: SamAdams76
I bought programs like Microsoft Encarta, Microsoft Music, Microsoft Cinema (where they had movie reviews and short clips of movies) and even 100 years worth of National Geographic magazines.

LOL! I bought some of those too including the 100 years worth of Nat'l Geographic magazines. What a pain it was to look through those dics, but it did come in a nice looking wooden case.

44 posted on 03/16/2008 1:49:42 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: ansel12
May I ask which company you worked for?
45 posted on 03/16/2008 1:57:25 PM PDT by Nevadan (nevadan)
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To: BerryDingle; SamAdams76
he spent all his time on the toilet reading it.

Otherwise known as the library.; ) It's harder to drag my laptop into the "library".

When I was young and we had a question about something, my dad would always say, "Let's look it up.", and we'd reach for the appropriate volume. (I remember being fascinated by the leaning tower of Pisa.) We also had a children's encyclopedia, Golden Book?, it had great maps of countries for school reports and I loved looking at the pictures of the scary looking deep-sea fish with the lights! When a World Book sales women came to the door I was ready to buy a set without conferring with my husband so as to offer the same opportunity to my daughters.

46 posted on 03/16/2008 2:05:33 PM PDT by stayathomemom
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To: NewJerseyJoe

You know what though? The CD versions were pretty lame, there is nothing to compare with the EB. Maybe they have improved in recent years.

The Internet has numerous webpages on any given subject, but still requires a working connection, hardware, etc. I would liken the modern internet akin to a GPS - handy, convenient, amazing, but I’m not leaving on a roadtrip without a road atlas, no way.


47 posted on 03/16/2008 2:06:24 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: ansel12
Okay, I think I get it now! So you would simply spend most of the 55-minutes showing them what a great encyclopedia the Britannica was (after all it sells itself) and towards the end of the presentation, mention that for the price of a couple of cups of coffee a day, they can have ten years of updates and oh, by the way, if you agree to that, I'll throw this entire set of encyclopedias in for free!

Hey, maybe if you came around my door back in the 1970s with that pitch, my parents might have gone for it!

48 posted on 03/16/2008 2:47:22 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 44 days away from outliving Dan Quisenberry)
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To: SamAdams76

I grew up on Britannica and Britannica Junior. We have both still and World Book too...a new edition! Funny, homeschoolers drool over my editions of Britannica. Considered the best.

Stop listening to the wife.


49 posted on 03/16/2008 3:38:04 PM PDT by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: vladimir998

I, too, credit much of my success as a student to the Encyclopedia Americana.


50 posted on 03/16/2008 3:56:40 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: SamAdams76
I really appreciate this thread. You've spurred my mind to get busy going to yard sales in this area, to find a good Britannica set! I have a granddaughter to whom I will leave it, someday. Also, I'll get on buying a ‘final set’ before they go out of print. Comparisons between old and newer sets was one of my favorite pastimes! I'll bet you enjoyed it, too.
51 posted on 03/16/2008 4:03:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: SamAdams76
Sam, I know where you're coming from, I begged my folks for an encyclopedia, too. They bought the World Book back in 1965, and I know it cost them a small fortune. But they were committed to their childrens' education, so it was not as great a sacrifice as it would have been for people who were spending money on restaurants and cigarettes.

It delighted them greatly to see me reading each volume cover to cover. And it paid off later on in school. At the time, the Portland, Oregon area had a College Bowl style show for high school students, I became captain of the team, and we beat three other schools to make it into the "Tournament of Champions".

One of them was a Catholic high school in Portland, and any guilt my folks had about taking me out of Catholic schools to move to southwestern Washington sort of melted away that evening!

52 posted on 03/16/2008 4:06:14 PM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: SamAdams76
I am reminded of the book Imaginary Magnitude , by the science fiction writer Stanislaw Lem in which he described a new galactic encyclopedia that not only contained all past knowledge but from advances in cybernetics was able to also contain all future knowledge as well.
53 posted on 03/16/2008 4:06:51 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: SamAdams76

That was nicely written, Sam. You have a easily read style which is entertaining. Do you write for a vocation or an avocation?


54 posted on 03/16/2008 4:14:37 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: hunter112
I had the same experience as you in school. One of my nicknames was actually "The Walking Encyclopedia" (although that was one of my "nicer" nicknames). Definitely helped me in school and fostered a life-long love for information.

I also spent many hours poring over the annual "World Almanac of Facts" which was much more within the reach of my childhood budget (as was "Farmer's Almanac" and "Guiness Book of Records" which were annual purchases in our household).

Even to this day, I recall much of the information I read as a kid. Recently, I blew away my teenage son as he mentioned about studying the U.S. Revolution in school and I gave him detailed explanation of the Townsend Acts and the Stamp Act off the top of my head and how they combined to spark the revolution.

Even to this day, I still Google up subjects that grab my interest. Just yesterday, I was reading articles on border collies because I happened to run into one when walking my dog yesterday morning.

I guess that kind of curiosity is what makes us Freepers.

55 posted on 03/16/2008 4:25:10 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 44 days away from outliving Dan Quisenberry)
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To: johniegrad
Thanks for the compliment. I'm not a professional writer (yet) but love to write on the side and I've been in an "off and on" process of writing some short stories. Mostly "off" I'm sad to say, due to the long hours I put in on my job. But one of my dreams is to "semi-retire", move out to the country (Alabama) and maybe write for a few dollars here and there.
56 posted on 03/16/2008 4:31:40 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 44 days away from outliving Dan Quisenberry)
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To: SamAdams76

What do you do for a living?


57 posted on 03/16/2008 4:34:06 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: SamAdams76
Illustrations and cover art from the 1961 edition of The Golden Treasury Of Knowledge. This series of encyclopedias not only was the beginning of my education, but, with its classic early 1960s look and beautiful Italian illustrations, formed the basis of my sense of design.


58 posted on 03/16/2008 5:14:41 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: SamAdams76

Where would you print an eulogy the someone would read?


59 posted on 03/16/2008 5:18:51 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Always spell check before posting in large fonts.)
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To: SamAdams76

It is not the same on-line. I would pick a book at random a open and read what was on that page. And with the on line reversions nobody gets the joke about “ How to Hug “.


60 posted on 03/16/2008 5:22:41 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Always spell check before posting in large fonts.)
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