Skip to comments.Obama camp: No, Newsmax, he wasn’t there for the sermon on July 22
Posted on 03/17/2008 7:18:13 AM PDT by jdm
An (almost) airtight alibi, refuting the charge that he was present in church and nodding along last summer when Wright indicted the United States of White America. So much for Newsmaxs credibility. People were ripping on me in the comments to the Juan Williams post for having called the Messiah a shrewd politician but just look at the game hes got us playing here trying to place him physically at the scene of any single sermon at a church he patronized for 20 years, as if absent that evidence we might have to believe his feigned ignorance. Newsmaxs info was bogus? Well, maybe he really didnt know after all!
Actually, I like this explanation better. Wait for it. About halfway through.
Who put this in breaking news?!
Since when did Newsmax have credibility?
AAAHHHH IT’s REDSTATE UPDATE!!!
You guys have GOT to subscribe to these guys on youtube. I have been watching for about a year and I mean I have almost peed they are so funny.
One clip: Obama admitted to smoking pot...
Dunlap (young guy) And that’s why Obama got caught with a bong.
Jackie (old guy) A bong? I thought he smoked menthol.
And these guys are both the same age, but I swear they have the mannerisms of southerners down pat. I think Jackie is my mother in law in male costume. The mouth movements, the way he holds his cigarette. I am telling you, you HAVE to see all of them on youtube. They are brilliant because to Libs, they represent the typical stupid Republican. But to us Republicans, the jokes they say about Dems are freaking HILARIOUS!!!!
“Aw, hell, what do you need lotion for? Are your hands chapped?”
That’s one of the funnier one’s I’ve seen.
Newsmax is ridiculously unreliable! Film at 11.
No kidding! It’s the conservative National Enquirer. Why do we allow articles from that place to be posted here?
I’m so glad I’m not the only nut for these nuts.
I’m telling you, I have everyone I know waiting for the new updates.
They even had Kenny Thompson on cause of ole Jackie’s love of ole Fred Thompson.
God, these guys are comedic genuises IMO, and smart politically too!
Since when does a member of a church need an alibi for not attending a service?
Why not - you’ve gotta peel the bark to find the heartwood.
Other than that, I can't explain it further because of the importance of keeping Mod decisions a complete mystery to you mortals.
FR bookmark , .. ( “now ya got me thinkin’ about all those slightly different yummy Hush Puppies I sampled throughout the southern states , .. but that’s another thread!” )
Ok, I have to admit I didn’t believe you Mod’s had a sense of humor. I apologize cause I was completely WRONG!!
Mere Mortal (hehe)
He may not have been there, but doesn’t Obama get the church newsletter?
I'm so confused. Is the story true or false?
Bump for when I get home tonight!
Obama isn’t even a reliable attendee to the church. He probably goes like 7 times a year, like most major politicians. He even said he doesn’t go there that much.
I would be honestly shocked if he would show up on a day he had something as taxing as flying to Florida for a speech on his schedule. You are either resting or preparing for that speech on that Sunday if you are normal person. It would be too exhausting to do otherwise.
Newsmax better have some photographic or other evidence.
Ha ha. It must have been the YouTube video that got this into 'breaking.' The mod's must be fans of Red State Update and want to make sure others see their work. :O)
FReeper Philo1962 wrote the article and attended the service, and he says Obama and Wright were at the service. Obama's camp has come out and called him a liar.
Given Obama's track record with the truth, I believe Philo. Rev. Wright is sinking the Obama campaign like an anvil... they have every reason in the world to lie right now.
You can check out all their vids here.
Freepmail me and let me know what you think!
Oh, that is perfect.
So his aliby is that, no he wasn't listening to one black racist preacher, but instead he was addressing a whole crowd of militantly racist latino separatists.
Frying pan, meet fire.
I’m pretty sure you are allowed to do that. :)
I was just surprised. Usually if I post something without putting it in breaking it either never makes it to breaking or it appears there hours later, not within 60-120 seconds later. Just kind of shocked that it moved there that quickly, that's all.
In other words, pathetic.
Get a room.
yeah but the issue is the credibility of newsmax. You don’t want Obama to get off on a technicality. He is a lawyer, remember.
No idea if he was there or not but lets work the times backwards:
Its a 4hour flight Chicago to Miami(3 hours flight time plus 1 hour time change)
Obama was introduced at 1:50 pm.Miami Time
He would have had to have landed at 1:10pm Miami Time
He would have had to have taken off at 9:10am Chicago Time
He would have had to arrived at airport by 8:40am Chicago Time
He would have had to have left the church for the airport at 8:10am Chicago Time
The service started at 7:30am. Chicago Time
It would be a tight schedule, but its possible he was at the service for a short time.
(No SR-71 needed like the carter/hostage conspiracy nuts said Bush Sr used when it was shown he could not have been where they claimed he was. LOL)
That makes two of us. I posted the story and even I'm not sure what to take away from all this.
“... ‘At’s funny ‘cause it’s true.”
Conservatives should not be participating in this taking down of Obama right now.
Being the stupid people we are, we can’t help ourselves.
Let him get the nomination, please! The Queen is a much more formidable general election opponent.
Obama will get beat 49 states to 1.
Just trying to be pleasant and have a sense of humor, that’s all.
Contrary to Senator Barack Obamas claim that he never heard his pastor Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. preach hatred of America, Obama was in the pews last July 22 when the minister blamed the white arrogance of Americas Caucasian majority for the worlds suffering, especially the oppression of blacks.
This does not resolve Obama's central problem - he is telling the nation that
"Weve got a lot of pent-up anger and bitterness and misunderstanding. But what I continue to believe in is that this country wants to move beyond these kinds of divisions."
but there is no evidence that, over the course of twenty years, he has moved his own minister past anger and bitterness.
However, if Obama was not attending church the specific day NewsMax claims he was, this gotcha is gone, and Obama's ludicrous claim that he was unaware of Wright's incendiary black separatism has not yet been disproven.
Props to Mickey Kaus for this.
MORE: Planes, trains, and automobiles? From Chicago to Miami for a 1:30 scheduled speech? I could believe Obama flew in Sunday morning, but to have time to go to church first? Per NewsMax, it was a Sunday morning sermon. And there is a one hour time difference between Chicago, so even the 7AM service would be a tight schedule. Hmm, in by 8 AM (Eastern time), out by 9 (C'mon, don't tell an old Catholic that the early service isn't the quick one), private plane for three hours to Miami - EZ! Or at least, not utterly implausible. Pretty high level of energy and commitment from Obama, though. Show us some plane ticket receipts!
I thought Clintons stopped the burning of black churches during Bill’s terms. Seems now it is the Clintons who are burning black Churches.
Do a search on Philo1962’s past posts. He began to answer these questions this morning.
In HotAir's comments I noticed someone ('dave742') pointed out that the sermon on July 22, 2007 in the orig Newsmax story was also written about here today: Kristol: The New York Times
I also noticed, WPtG, that someone on HotAir grabbed your line "So, in essence, the defense is: "He couldn't have been with the militant black separatist that morning, because he was spending the afternoon with militant Mexican separatists!". Nice job!