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LIVE THREAD - Under Pressure, Obama Prepares for Race and Unity Speech
Fox News ^ | 18 March 2008

Posted on 03/18/2008 6:12:13 AM PDT by SE Mom

Barack Obama is preparing to deliver a major address Tuesday on race, politics and unifying the country after being hounded by questions about his relationship to a pastor whose sermons have been laced with anti-American invective.

In a speech whose religious significance could compare to one given in December by former GOP presidential hopeful and Mormon Mitt Romney, Obama may be forced to explain the philosophy of the 8,000-strong Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, where the Democratic presidential candidate has been a congregant for 20 years.

In announcing the morning address, to be delivered in Philadelphia, Obama would not say specifically what he will discuss, but suggested he wants to cool down the atmosphere after incendiary remarks by his pastor, retired Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., blanketed the airwaves over the past week.

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To: Chuck54

Mornin’ Chuck:) The speech is scheduled to last 30 mins..and apparently there will be questions afterwards...


51 posted on 03/18/2008 6:37:34 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: MindBender26
The significance of those photos of Obama not putting his hand over his heart for the national anthem and refusing the wear an American flag just got multiplied a thousand fold in the minds of the general public.
52 posted on 03/18/2008 6:37:58 AM PDT by DB
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To: SoFloFreeper

What’s Obama going to do, totally condemn this minister and sayhe wants nothing to do with him anymore? That is the only thing that might satisfy some people but it would ring entirely hollow after he has been in the congregation for 20 years!

Sadly Wright has a following his own self, and supposedly he speaks for a lot of people. God help us all. But if that is the case and Obama suddenly snubs him, is this going to cost Obama some support from more radical quarters? Hmmm....


53 posted on 03/18/2008 6:38:17 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: TornadoAlley3
as he copies JFK speech he will substitute racial for religious.
54 posted on 03/18/2008 6:38:31 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Everytime McCain reaches out to conservatives, conservatives get poked in the eye.)
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To: SE Mom

My guess is that The Obomination will cite Martin Luther King a minimum of 12 times.
He will say his beliefs are the same as Dr. King’s and that he rejects Wright’s wrongs.
He can ramble on about the history of the black church until hell freezes over.
HATE SPEECH IS HATE SPEECH!


55 posted on 03/18/2008 6:38:53 AM PDT by Bob from De ((All liberals may not be narcissists...but it sure seems to help))
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To: Mercat
As I recall, Romney made no apologies. He didn't feel that he needed to (and I quite agree). Romney made a sincere effort to transcend the issue. America is great because we can be different, but we can all be Americans. He took the potentially divisive issue of Mormonism and used it as a springboard to tell us why America is a special place and why we're all in this together. I thought it was well done.

Obama is different because:
1) He does need to apologize for his association with a purveyor of race hatred
2) He and his wife don't especially feel proud of this country
3) By using Alinksy ju-jitsu and turning the race issue back against whitey, he is not transcending racial politics but merely using it to his advantage -- and I don't think that will work in this situation.

56 posted on 03/18/2008 6:39:06 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: MEGoody

Obama cannot win the general elections but Hillary Clinton can and probably will. As I said, enjoy the butt kicking again by the Clintons. They shall be your masters and you shall be their slaves.


57 posted on 03/18/2008 6:39:10 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: austinaero
And Chrissie will get his tingle back,,,

You owe me (another) keyboard!

Obama tried an oft-used Clinton tactic...putting out bad news on a Friday evening. It didn't work, Barry.

58 posted on 03/18/2008 6:40:29 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Forget it...I'll never be able to pull the lever for McCain!)
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To: SE Mom
"to explain the philosophy of the 8,000-strong Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago

I want him to explain to the country just what "Black Liberation Theology" really is !!!

Just what in He77 are they wanting to be liberated from???

The most Free country in the world??
Free education?
Affirmative Action???
Aid to Dependant Children??
Welfare??
Low Cost Housing ?
They don't need to be liberated.. they just need to get the He77 out.. Ungrateful ^&%&*%^

59 posted on 03/18/2008 6:40:39 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: MindBender26

Agreed. I think he’s finished too- but am fascinated to watch the fallout and how it will change the American perceptions of race...


60 posted on 03/18/2008 6:40:50 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

61 posted on 03/18/2008 6:41:13 AM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: TornadoAlley3

Of course you are right. Pass the barf bags.


62 posted on 03/18/2008 6:41:27 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Night Hides Not

Good morning to you, Good morning to you!

The keyboard’s in the mail....


63 posted on 03/18/2008 6:42:11 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: SE Mom

Thanks, I was wondering what time it was scheduled.

I’m not underestimating his speech abilities and ‘slickness’ quotient. He’s got Bill beat when it comes to acting honest & sincere.


64 posted on 03/18/2008 6:42:29 AM PDT by nuconvert (There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
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To: jveritas

Hillary cannot win the general election without the black vote, and if Hillary is the rat nominee, she will NOT get the black vote, because she will have stolen the nomination from the big ‘O’.


65 posted on 03/18/2008 6:42:44 AM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry
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To: TNCMAXQ
Obama didn't take his children to hear hate he didn't agree with. It was obviously the message he chose for them to hear. He can't walk away from that.
66 posted on 03/18/2008 6:42:53 AM PDT by DB
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To: DB

BTTT- lots of insight there.


67 posted on 03/18/2008 6:43:17 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: nuconvert

That’s only because he’s still new and people haven’t “peeled the Obama onion”. Stay tuned.


68 posted on 03/18/2008 6:43:35 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Robe
"Black Liberation Theology"

You ought to hear the story of the Exodus from the perspective of that perverse theology.

I once heard a pastor say that Pharoah allowed the Jews to leave with all of their possessions, but when slaves got kicked off the plantations, they couldn't take anything with them. He equated the two and used that logic to argue for reparations.

69 posted on 03/18/2008 6:44:17 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Is this tagline governed by McCain-Feingold?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I think that the only honorable thing he can do is admit to 1) being influenced by Wright but he’s better now; 2) not paying close enough attention; 3) apologizing to us whities; 4) severing ties with that church - wife and children too; 5) hit the lights and go into his hope and change speech. He won’t do that but that’s what he should do. I want an apology. I look at the black people I encounter now and feel like the racial divide has widened and is too wide to cross in my generation. It makes me very sad.


70 posted on 03/18/2008 6:45:54 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: SE Mom

Major damage control. I suspect it will be to little to late. He should have hit the ground divesting himself of this idiot. Instead he tried to finesse this past the fawning MSM. If he had come out claiming he had had an epiphany and was suddenly struck with the evil of the message it would have been defused. Of course that would have been a lie just like what he said after it came out. I believe he not only was present when this tripe was being spoken but was nodding his head in approval, if not standing and applauding.


71 posted on 03/18/2008 6:46:06 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: sarasota

“That’s only because he’s still new and people haven’t “peeled the Obama onion”. “

Maybe, but I’m not sure they’re going to be peeling much of the onion today either.


72 posted on 03/18/2008 6:46:14 AM PDT by nuconvert (There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
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To: Mercat
Is he going to have an audience?

Hopefully they'll be entertained by his moonwalk out of Presidential contention.
73 posted on 03/18/2008 6:46:39 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: All
From now on he will only use white and black hankies when he blows his nose on stage. The red,white and blue hankie is out for now.

Vote for me! Just because I'm a corrupt,socialist racist is no reason I shouldn't be President. Quick somebody hand me a hankie!!

74 posted on 03/18/2008 6:46:51 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (So long Myron. Call the Steelers games from heaven.)
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To: Robe

People need to probe the connection between Liberation Theology in general and Marxism, and it’s relationship to sometimes violent movements in Latin America.

But no one in the media will.

Juan Williams, who otherwise was making sense on this Obama pastor issue, was talking about how wonderful it all was.


75 posted on 03/18/2008 6:47:14 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Bi-partisanship: Democrats and RINOs working together to screw up the country)
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To: ontap

His reaction to this mess has been telling, indeed. He’s in a spot he created- but a tough spot nevertheless. If he truly distances himself from Jeremiah Wright and Trinity Church, many blacks will be furious- if he doesn’t- many non-blacks will be furious.


76 posted on 03/18/2008 6:49:48 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: umgud

Pure poetry :-)

Thanks for the chuckle


77 posted on 03/18/2008 6:51:19 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: SE Mom

BO’s “I have a damn!” speech.


78 posted on 03/18/2008 6:51:24 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (The Wright Brothers.)
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To: Mercat
I agree. He might be able to undo some damage by apologizing, but his campaign is dead. All of his best excuses now focus on:

1) My judgement wasn't very good
2) I'm not a good judge of other people's character
3) I often don't pay attention to what people say to me
4) I am easily misled

These are not good defenses for a misstep in a presidential campaign. But what else does he have??

79 posted on 03/18/2008 6:51:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: SE Mom

I think the problem for Obama is that he has been preaching one message inside the African American community, and a different one to the broader American public.

As another FReeper commented once, it’s very much like Arafat saying one thing to his followers in Arabic and another thing entirely to the world media in English.


80 posted on 03/18/2008 6:53:00 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Bi-partisanship: Democrats and RINOs working together to screw up the country)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

It looks that way, doesn’t it? Lots of wink-wink, nod-nod going on..


81 posted on 03/18/2008 6:54:35 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

He deserves to be in this spot, if he thinks he can float thru to the WH Obama is deluded as well as his supporters.
Someone needs to ask BHO about the FALN and the TUCC.
There is a lot more coming that will have a bearing on BHO’s judgement besides Wright’s hate sermons.
Just read BHO’s first book.


82 posted on 03/18/2008 6:55:54 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: TNCMAXQ

Reading CNN online(while holding my nose), it appears that Obama has consulted with up to 50 black church leaders over the weekend for help with his speech.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/18/obama.speech/index.html


83 posted on 03/18/2008 6:56:38 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: Mr. Brightside

I’m not sure what Sista Soulja means although I’ve seen it referred to on other Freeper threads.

I will, however, take this opportunity to make my most profound announcement. Bearing in mind here that I am more accurate in my prognostications than, say, Dick Morris.

I hereby declare Barack Hussein Obama UNELECTABLE.

Which is not to say that he couldn’t win the Dem primary but I have my doubts on even that. But there is no way, Jose, nada, zero, zip...that Obama will EVER be elected this country’s president.

Yes I know it’s a daring prediction but remember again, I am way better than Dick Morris in my predictions, you should be impressed.

The people in this country are simply not going to elect a man our president who has associated with a church of such vehemence and rancor. Those sound and sight bytes are killers. Remembering that in cinematic America, these are not wordy transcripts released on the un-reading populace. These are videos, loud and brutal, that we see with our collective lying eyes and lying ears.

The ladies at the beauty parlor will remove the hairdryers and take notice. Not even the beauty of Barack’s speech can chase this away. Add to it the little “clues” he’s dropped along the way like ET’s Reesie’s Piecies. Like his refusal to wear an American flag lapel pin. Like that infamous pic without his hand over his heart, something that the American public might have overlooked on its own but coupled with the fine and lovable Reverund Wright...heh.

Then there’s the personable Michele Obama who hasn’t been proud of her country until she’s almost in her mid-40’s and her constant harangue that it is US who are damn mean...

....the unions across the fruited plains might support the Dems but those unions are composed of ordinary folks who don’t like knowing that serreptiously there’s a sub-culture of so-called black “Christians” who beat white people up to hell and back for alleged causasion racism while shouting this fire and brimstone hatred from the pulpits. A lot of white folk in this country were not aware such a sub-culture existed but, now they do.

Yon average middle class American is not going to elect a man so filled with hate for this country as its President. Not so long as white people are the majority and as of this date, we still are.

I’ll end with the thought that those alleged “super-delegates” that the Dems so adore supposedly place their votes on the candidate’s “electability”.

It’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

And don’t forget my track record versus Dick Morris.

;)


84 posted on 03/18/2008 6:56:52 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: sarasota

85 posted on 03/18/2008 6:57:33 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Everytime McCain reaches out to conservatives, conservatives get poked in the eye.)
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To: iopscusa

I haven’t read either of his books- but here’s something interesting from this morning:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1987456/posts


86 posted on 03/18/2008 6:58:19 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

IBTS

In before the speech.

Thanks SE Mom for the thread.


87 posted on 03/18/2008 6:59:24 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (El Conservo Tribe, tribal name "Avoids Fort Marcy Park". Watching the Rat Fight.)
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To: umgud

No speech can dig Obama out of the racist hole he’s been living in for most of his adult life. Pastor Wright is a hate-mongering racist, and he was Obama’s spiritual advisor, what else does anyone need to know?


88 posted on 03/18/2008 7:00:00 AM PDT by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: NeoCaveman

IBTS- LOL:)


89 posted on 03/18/2008 7:00:03 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: umgud

Priceless!


90 posted on 03/18/2008 7:00:20 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Fishtalk

So I must add a needed caveat.

I have heard plenty of African-Americans over the past few days disavow Reverund Wright’s vitriol and I have been in a few majority black churchs in my life. Not often, but a few.

I never saw such a spectacle as Rev. Wright but my shocked eyes can’t get over the sight of that HAPPY CONGREGATION. Rev Wright could well be the batty uncle in the attic but he sure has a lot of supporters.

Including Barack Obama which he can’t weasle out of.


91 posted on 03/18/2008 7:01:01 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: SE Mom

92 posted on 03/18/2008 7:01:21 AM PDT by Muleteam1
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To: Muleteam1

These are the real issues which should decide this campaign. And they are not religious/racial issues—for war and hunger and ignorance and despair know no religious/racial barriers.

But because I am a Catholic,/black man and no Catholic/black man has ever been elected President, the real issues in this campaign have been obscured—perhaps deliberately, in some quarters less responsible than this. So it is apparently necessary for me to state once again—not what kind of church I believe in, for that should be important only to me—but what kind of America I believe in.


93 posted on 03/18/2008 7:03:04 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Everytime McCain reaches out to conservatives, conservatives get poked in the eye.)
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To: SE Mom

I won’t be watching it as I cannot stand to see someone tell lies.


94 posted on 03/18/2008 7:03:44 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: SE Mom

Tanks for the PING!


95 posted on 03/18/2008 7:03:47 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (McLame's ultimate message: Fed Up Conservatives, Unite!)
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To: All

Al Sharpton now on FOX saying he’s starting to question the political motivation ..why is this in the news cycle so long...

As usual- it’s damned hard to understand EXACTLY what Sharpton is saying- but it SOUNDS like he’s blaming Hillary...

ROFL!


96 posted on 03/18/2008 7:04:00 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom
Predicitons-

--Obama will be the last African-American to run for president in the US.

--There will be no formal democrat convention this year.

97 posted on 03/18/2008 7:05:00 AM PDT by Crawdad (If you're in a fair fight, your tactics suck.)
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To: SE Mom

I’m watching Sharpton. Talk about your verbal dance.

But it does seem that he’s casting aspersions on Hillary.


98 posted on 03/18/2008 7:05:45 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Piquaboy

“I won’t be watching it as I cannot stand to see someone tell lies.”

You betcha!

Also, it is hard to explain why that televion has a big hole in its screen to the shrieking spouse.


99 posted on 03/18/2008 7:05:54 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: SE Mom

RACE SPEECH.

Did he really say?

G*# D*## NASCAR


100 posted on 03/18/2008 7:06:08 AM PDT by We Dare Defend Our Rights
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