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LIVE THREAD - Under Pressure, Obama Prepares for Race and Unity Speech
Fox News ^ | 18 March 2008

Posted on 03/18/2008 6:12:13 AM PDT by SE Mom

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To: bill1952
"McCain cannot defeat Hillary Clinton. McCain can defeat Obama."

Oddly enough, after a mere nearly three decades of politics and political analysis, my take is exactly the opposite.

1,451 posted on 03/18/2008 5:09:33 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama looks, walks and talks like a racist pig...)
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To: cake_crumb

Oddly enough, after a mere nearly three decades of politics and political analysis, my take is exactly the opposite

Clearly, we went to different schools together. 8^)


1,452 posted on 03/18/2008 5:14:50 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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Howard Fineman( on Olbermann) quoted someone who asked if Obama's speech might be too high-minded for the knuckleheads?
1,453 posted on 03/18/2008 5:27:53 PM PDT by syriacus (Obama says >>> "Yes!! ...We CAN change!!! ...ALL of us can change....EXCEPT for Jeremiah Wright")
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To: SE Mom

All I can say is, OPERATION CHAOS !!!


1,454 posted on 03/18/2008 7:11:00 PM PDT by lookout88 (Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
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To: Matchett-PI

Thanks, babe ............... Smootches


1,455 posted on 03/18/2008 7:41:34 PM PDT by gonzo ( What Part Of "Shall Not Be Infringed" does anyone have a problem with? The USSC will soon wonder ..)
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To: Enchante
Don't you have to be black before you say stuff like this? This guy is African American?

There's a lot of cream in that coffee.

I was born in Africa and I'm darker than him and Whitney Houston.

1,456 posted on 03/18/2008 10:18:30 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084; Enchante

Best Line Of The Day (as heard from a caller to the “Grandy & Andy Morning Show”, 630 WMAL) —

If Obama is president and the phone rings at 3 o’clock in the morning, and there’s a crisis or catastrophe in the world, who is he going to call? He’s going to call the Rev. Jeremiah Wright!”

This caller is so right.


1,457 posted on 03/19/2008 3:55:45 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Obamanation = Abomination)
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To: Spunky

My dad was in the army so I lived most of my childhood in Germany and in different places overseas. For this reason I think that I wasn’t brainwashed with this filth that is taught in so many black churches. I went to one church in Houston one time when I was a kid and I remember this kinda garbage being spewed. All I can say is thank God that I didn’t get draped in this too. I think that since my parents weren’t particularly religous and the fact that I grew up mostly overseas it gives me a totally different view of America as a black man. Basically, I love the country and wouldn’t trade it for anything. And yes while there is a very and I mean very small amount of racism in this country it really isn’t a big deal. My fellow black people make it a big deal because since they were little they were basically taught to hate white people. It’s a fact. Its stupid and illogical for a host of reasons:

1. Fact: At the height of slavery, which was so damn long ago I don’t even know why we still even have to talk about it, only 3 percent of Americans owned slaves. Yep only 3 whole percent. You had to be extremely weathly to own slaves back then.

2. Fact: America wasn’t the only country in the world that had slavery so I don’t understand why my people think we’re so unique when it comes to oppression. I could name 60 countries including AFRICA by the way that had slaves.

3. Fact: America went to war to end slavery. 600,000 lives were lost to end slavery. A president was killed because he wanted to end slavery. His successor was almost impeached. Obviously most Americans knew it was wrong.

I could go on for days about how great this country is and why we as Black people should be damn proud and feel lucky to be here. Sadly I can’t say this outloud around any of my co-workers or friends. I’m sure you can understand why. Hell most of them have been so brainwashed they actually believe that garbage Wright was spilling. They walk around angry and mad at the world because “the man is keepin us down” and all this bull.

My only thing that I would tell other Americans reading this post is to stand up to Blacks and tell them the facts. Don’t let them “guilt” you into feeling sorry for something you personally didn’t do. I mean just from a logic standpoint it’s crazy if think about it but most black people have been conditioned to think this:

“I should be mad at white people because of the slavery which I myself have not experienced and they themselves have not commited.”

Yeah that makes a lot of sense. Just realize it was something that was common place back then and get over it. Slavery was not unique to America or white people.

But I tell you what is unique about America, freedom, capitalism, justice, generousity. The world would be a very cold dark place without America.


1,458 posted on 03/19/2008 5:19:26 AM PDT by YoungBlackRepublican
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To: kabar
"THE BLACK VALUE SYSTEM, which is the foundation of this church. It is a racist document. Obama should be asked about whether he subscribes to this document."

By any chance do you have a cached copy of the church's web page with their charter. I saw it posted on FR some time ago and it was even more explicit and with more bullet points, but I can't find it now. It has been scrubbed from the current records of the church. Thanks.

1,459 posted on 03/19/2008 5:22:05 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: YoungBlackRepublican

Loved your post!


1,460 posted on 03/19/2008 5:24:23 AM PDT by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: YoungBlackRepublican

Well said!! I wish such insight were far more common but unfortunately it is rare. Slavery was a horrible thing but the US did more to abolish it worldwide than any country except Britain. I would add that as one of tens of millions of Americans whose ancestors only reached this country in the 20th century, I get particularly tired of being told I bear some special responsibility for what no one in my ancestry had anything to do with. My ancestors were all poor struggling fishermen, farmers, and miners in faraway lands (Cape Breton Island in northeastern Canada, Ireland, France) and they never even heard of slavery.

I’d say it’s time for the subject of race to “move on” from the bitter rants and recriminations of Jeremiah Wright and Al Sharpton, et al. No one alive today had anything to do with it.


1,461 posted on 03/19/2008 6:14:33 AM PDT by Enchante (Eliot Spitzer, can your daughters be "high class" coke-whores for some Democrat friends?)
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To: SE Mom

He has to be the most useless candidate that has ever run.


1,462 posted on 03/19/2008 6:55:05 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Don't burn a bra, burn a feminist!)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/03/barack_i_didnt_do_it_for_this.php

by Roger L. Simon

Barack, I didn’t do it for this.

Barack, I was a civil rights worker… South Carolina, 1966… 22 yrs old … helping old folks register to vote, teaching kids to read and write, directing Raisin in the Sun…

Barack, I didn’t do it for this.

Barack, I dream of my kindergarten best friend Andy from Walden School, Manhattan, born one day after me, shot dead in Mississippi 1964.

Barack, I idolized Stokley Carmichael and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee.

Barack, I lost the full use of my left hand for life in South Carolina.

Barack, I didn’t do it for this.

Barack, I gave hundreds to the Black Panthers for their children’s breakfast program when I was 25 and a young screenwriter in Echo Park, Los Angeles, even though I knew Huey was crazy and was worried my money might have been going for guns, even though I had my own children in the house when the Panthers came over, their jackets bulging.

Barack, I made excuses for the Black Power Movement even though I knew it was turning racist.

Barack, I didn’t do it for this.

Barack, your speech was bullshit.

Barack, this isn’t about generations.

Barack, this isn’t about the black church.

Barack, this is about a pathological minister whose uncontrolled anger wounds his own people and keeps them down.

Barack, this is about a man who ignored that rage for his own political gain and even now won’t admit a huge mistake and looks for nuance and excuses.

Barack, this about a woman who went on scholarship to Princeton and Harvard and still hates America.

Barack, you say you want Black-Jewish reconciliation but you hung with an anti-Semite.

Barack, I didn’t do it for this.

Roger L. Simon is an Academy Award-nominated screenwriter, novelist and blogger, and the CEO of Pajamas Media.

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1,463 posted on 03/19/2008 7:46:37 AM PDT by Enchante (Eliot Spitzer, can your daughters be "high class" coke-whores for some Democrat friends?)
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To: YoungBlackRepublican

You sound like you will go far in life, YBR. Your post can help many to open their eyes and see the doors of opportunity which await them. May your positive influence spread far and wide. - OB1


1,464 posted on 03/19/2008 7:54:15 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (The Presidential election is a race to the bottom. Which Party will out stupid the other to lose ?)
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Now it is all about HIS RACE and white guilt. I think he will largely become the the “black” candidate supported only by his race and the lib elites (college profs, moonbats etc.) Ther is no way white the working class in Ohio, PA . Mizzo, and FLA are going to support the “race candidate”, unless the MSM can brain wash them to death. He can no longer state he is ABOVE race and politics. He is the HATE candidate.


1,465 posted on 03/19/2008 8:10:44 AM PDT by libscum
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To: syriacus
Howard Fineman( on Olbermann) quoted someone who asked if Obama's speech might be too high-minded for the knuckleheads?

Only if those knuckleheads first take a sip of the "LIBERAL COCKTAIL"--

two ounces of 'high-minded' idealism,

with an ounce of political naivete'--

mixed in a snifter of historical amnesia.

P.S. Some liberals like their cocktails 'dirty'--adding a touch of condescending arrogance.

1,466 posted on 03/19/2008 8:23:58 AM PDT by stockstrader (Hoping for CHANGE by voting for Obama--is like hoping to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: libscum
He can no longer state he is ABOVE race and politics. He is the HATE candidate.

No question about it.

If you want to divide this country even further along racial lines,,,

Senator B. (whose middle name must NEVER be spoken) Obama and his nasty, bitter, mean, anti-American wife,,,,

ARE THE RIGHT COUPLE AT THE RIGHT TIME!!!

1,467 posted on 03/19/2008 8:26:57 AM PDT by stockstrader (Hoping for CHANGE by voting for Obama--is like hoping to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: Enchante

“I would add that as one of tens of millions of Americans whose ancestors only reached this country in the 20th century, I get particularly tired of being told I bear some special responsibility for what no one in my ancestry had anything to do with. “

I totally understand your point. If I were constantly blamed for something I myself didn’t do it would get old very quickly. The only chance of being successfull in this world is Self Responsiblity. (the most successfull usually have a great deal of Self Dicipline as well but I digress)
And how can you have Self Responsiblity when you are always being told it’s somebody else’s fault that you are in your position in life. How can you grow?


1,468 posted on 03/19/2008 8:32:11 AM PDT by YoungBlackRepublican
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To: SE Mom
I was at the Opperations Support Center in Charlotte NC yesterday.

I was seeing my oldest off to the Army Guard, shipped out for BT just yesterday. As I was waiting...the speech was being played on CNN on a TV in the lobby. I don't think it was intentional because nearly all the MSM pimped that speech.

As the officers and soldiers walked by the TV, they caught a glimpse of the TV, shook their head and kept walking.

Nobody there was paying attention....in fact, one of the soldiers turned the channel to ESPN and asked everyone if that was OK. Everyone could care less.

1,469 posted on 03/19/2008 8:40:52 AM PDT by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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To: envisio

HOOAH:)

Thanks for posting!


1,470 posted on 03/19/2008 9:01:44 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: YoungBlackRepublican

Well said!


1,471 posted on 03/19/2008 10:19:14 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: YoungBlackRepublican
"The only chance of being successful in this world is Self Responsibility. (the most successful usually have a great deal of Self Discipline as well but I digress) And how can you have Self Responsibility when you are always being told it’s somebody else’s fault that you are in your position in life. How can you grow?"

Exactly. Discipline and responsibility are the keys for every human being to advance and prosper - always being told to blame whitey or blame anyone else for one's disappointments is no way to succeed in the world. That's not to say specific wrongs and injustices do not need to be redressed, but this kind of global "we can't advance because of what happened 150 years ago" does not help anyone, ever.
1,472 posted on 03/19/2008 10:59:25 AM PDT by Enchante (Eliot Spitzer, can your daughters be "high class" coke-whores for some Democrat friends?)
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To: YoungBlackRepublican

What a great post! Thank you.


1,473 posted on 03/19/2008 12:10:17 PM PDT by whatshotandwhatsnot
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