Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Obama says US cannot ignore race
BBC ^ | Tuesday, 18 March 2008, 17:15 GMT | BBC Staff

Posted on 03/18/2008 2:53:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-95 next last
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Obama says US cannot ignore race

soOOOoooo.. when is he gonna show up at a nascar race?

we post race threads here all the time, btw. :-}

I really detest people who seek to stir up hatred and distrust under the cloak of immunity and guise of authority just because they are speaking from a pulpit.


41 posted on 03/18/2008 3:45:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

ap piece

Analysis: Obama grabs race issue
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080318/ap_on_el_pr/obama_race_matters

Obama grabs the 3rd rail of politics.. reminds me of the fella that grabbed a 3rd rail in california not so long ago,, Prop 13. ;-)


42 posted on 03/18/2008 3:47:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: potlatch; holdonnow; stevemalzberg1; Laura_Ingraham; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Beckwith; ...


43 posted on 03/18/2008 3:52:25 PM PDT by devolve (------- --------The Wright Stuff? ----------One more sleeper!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Obama says US cannot ignore race

We aren't. And unfortunately for Obama, we aren't going to ignore race hustlers, either.

44 posted on 03/18/2008 3:53:52 PM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

that ap link is a thread here as well.

Analysis: Obama Grabs Race Issue
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1987798/posts


45 posted on 03/18/2008 4:00:57 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I submit that most Americans can ignore race. I suggest that all Americans who can’t ignore race simply leave for another country.


46 posted on 03/18/2008 4:01:55 PM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: puroresu

Talking about racism only perpetuates it. It can only end if we all ignore it. Impossible?
Maybe not.


47 posted on 03/18/2008 4:06:42 PM PDT by foxfriend
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: Right Cal Gal

Yay-yah! You go to the top of the class, girl, cause you’ve got it!!! (terrific posted reply!!!)


48 posted on 03/18/2008 4:22:51 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Changing America to an Obamanation is good? I think NOT! A McCaination isn't a whole lot better!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

All I gits fer that second picher is a red “X” so yew bedder fixit or I’ll tell on yew!!!


49 posted on 03/18/2008 4:25:07 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Changing America to an Obamanation is good? I think NOT! A McCaination isn't a whole lot better!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Lol, Obama’s pretty fractured right now from the tales he told!


50 posted on 03/18/2008 4:29:01 PM PDT by potlatch
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: devolve

Very nice devolve.
I’m scared to look - if she gets any bigger!


51 posted on 03/18/2008 4:29:51 PM PDT by potlatch
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: ronnie raygun
While checking out the responses to Obama's speech on Democratic underground I came across an objective response to the speech. A poster on democratic underground did an exceptional job of explaining why the speech failed, this is what he had to say and it is spot on. Needless to say, he took a lot of flames but stood his ground regarding his analysis:

"It was a fine speech for fluffing supporters: it failed to do what it needed to do."

Obama Supporters are missing the point, as did Obama. This speech was great troop fodder, but to anyone coming in ambivalent or skeptical...it completely missed the mark. These important points were missed, or brought up and not supported.

1) He was present for Wright's speeches

What he NEEDED TO SAY BUT DIDN'T: he said nothing about not being there or not hearing the "GOD DAMN AMERICA" speech. This was a major omission.

2) He won't distance himself from Wright.

What he NEEDED TO SAY BUT DIDN'T: this issue was key if he wanted to defuse the "guilt by association" issue. Does it matter to you that he wouldn't "throw Wright under the bus?" Likely. Does it matter to those who saw this as racist or anti-American that he DID NOT "throw Wright under the bus?" ABSOLUTELY. Another MAJOR omission.

3) He didn't leave the church. He spent 20 years there listening to Dr. Wright, and gave no good justification.

What he NEEDED TO SAY BUT DIDN'T: This speech was not supposed to be for supporters. He WAS at this church for 20 years. During that time, detractors are going to find it impossible to believe that he did not agree with everything said. Now I'm a pretty tolerant guy, but I pulled my kids out of a church my family had belonged to for 20+ years and my late father had been a deacon of because they started on a "Love the sinner/Hate the sin" tact related to the Gay community. If I can do that, what are less tolerant people going to believe of him?

4) He identifies with several important white people in his life, such as his mother and grandmother.

What he NEEDED TO SAY BUT DIDN'T: This UNFORTUNATELY sets up #4.

5) He blames Dr. Wright's racism on white society.

What he NEEDED TO SAY BUT DIDN'T: the way he words it, yes, he does blame it on white society. He speaks of current "...endemic white racism..." This isn't history, and it makes it look like he is betraying his mother and grandmother.

6) He asks us to UNDERSTAND Wright's message.

What he NEEDED TO SAY BUT DIDN'T: this was exactly what he DID NOT need to do. This was to distance from that message. Instead, it looks like he reinforced it, and therefore in the eyes of detractors, embraced it.

7) He rationalizes Wright's racism.

What he NEEDED TO SAY BUT DIDN'T: People who needed to be shown he was not racist and did not support Wright's racist message were likely not reassured.

8) He defends his membership in said church.

What he NEEDED TO SAY BUT DIDN'T: you can see that this is not what he needed to do. Supporters are forgiving of any issue that might have a negative slant. This does nothing to dispel this slant. I know people, not very SOPHISTICATED people, put sharp enough to go to the Trinity Web site, which, to someone with a somewhat closed mind, reads like an AFRICAN SEPARIST church web site. THIS may have been the myth he most needed to dispel, and he completely failed.

Rest assured, I do not think him a racist. I do not think him stupid. But this speech does nothing it needed to do. As a supporter, you heard and read what you wanted to get out of the speech. The person he needed to convince sat there saying "...yeah, yeah, get ON With it; clear it up or shut up." He did neither. In my opinion, his speech failed to convince the unbeliever. This was the wrong speech at the wrong time."

52 posted on 03/18/2008 4:47:36 PM PDT by Jmouse007
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We might could get past the “race” issue - if folks like Obama, Wright, Sharpton, Jackson, et-al would DROP it... Just about the time people start to forget about race, these nut-jobs dredge up garbage and stir the pot back up...


53 posted on 03/18/2008 4:54:26 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Right Cal Gal

“If you weren’t black, you’d have been a footnote in this campaign.”

Geraldine agrees.

;-)


54 posted on 03/18/2008 4:55:00 PM PDT by Canedawg (No Che Hussein NObama, and the Hildebeast, too)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Polybius

Truthfully, America does not need A racist Negro lecturing us on anything concerning race relations.

While Obuma set in his (domestic terrorist church) and listened to the anti-America/ anti-White rants, he said nothing. Obuma’s silence is a true indicator of his real racist beliefs.

We cannot let Obuma and his evil spawn turn America into a Mugabe led South Africa.

I have no respect for anyone who will not pledge alligiance to America and place their hand over their heart. Anyone who will not wear an American Flag lapel pin on their suit jacket is a anti-American.

I wish one of the reporters would ask the Magic Negro why he did not serve in our military.

The real truth about Obuma, his pastor, wife and church members are nothing more than racist hate mongering POS.

You are right Polybius, we will remember in November and send his ass packing.

Respectfully,
NSNR


55 posted on 03/18/2008 4:59:20 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: ronnie raygun
Obama dwells on race, while aspiring to be President and commander-in-chief of a nation of 300 million citizens that is the leader of the free world.

But this warrior is unable to even defend his nation with a whisper when it is under the most perverse of attacks in the very church he attends. What a sorry specimen.

56 posted on 03/18/2008 6:09:07 PM PDT by mtntop3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: potlatch


LOL! Thanks potlatch!

A new "change" graphic:



NEEDED CHANGE YOU CAN REALLY SMELL





OBAMA08
border=0>

57 posted on 03/18/2008 6:24:38 PM PDT by devolve (------- --------The Wright Stuff? ----------One more sleeper!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: devolve

Wow, shades of Peter Max!! Great color combinations. Good post devolve.


58 posted on 03/18/2008 6:34:11 PM PDT by potlatch
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: NormsRevenge

Thanks...


59 posted on 03/18/2008 8:11:06 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: Digital Sniper

Good one.


60 posted on 03/18/2008 8:13:39 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-95 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson