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Obama struggles to limit damage in pastor row as white voters slip away
The Guardian ^ | Saturday March 22 2008 | Daniel Nasaw, Ewen MacAskill

Posted on 03/21/2008 7:53:03 PM PDT by Red Steel

Listen for a few minutes to Joey Vento, owner of a south Philadelphia institution that serves gut-busting sandwiches through a takeaway hatch, and the scale of Barack Obama's problems become apparent. Obama is having the worst week of his campaign. It is, some believe, a week that threatens his chances of becoming president.

"That minister, that was terrible, all his sayings. He's preaching hatred," Vento said. "The thing I didn't like about Obama; you're telling me for 20 years you been going to that church and you never heard that?"

Vento, 68, was speaking about Obama's former pastor and spiritual adviser, Jeremiah Wright, whose sermons have been aired repeatedly on US television denouncing the US as racist.

The clips have alienated the white voters, such as Vento, that Obama needs in his next contest with Hillary Clinton, to be held in Philadephia and the other towns and cities of Pennsylvania on April 22. But it goes further than that. The danger for Obama is not just that he could lose badly in Pennsylvania but that senior Democrats will wonder whether the loss of white votes could cost him the November general election.

Phil Singer, spokesman for Clinton, told reporters: "It's no secret that the Obama campaign is in political hot water."

Obama attempted to defuse the escalating row with a speech on Tuesday in Philadelphia in which he spoke in detail about his relationship with Wright and race in the US. It was widely acknowledged as one of his best. He wrote it on Monday night after his wife, Michelle, and their children had gone to bed. Although acclaimed by the media and political activists, his speech has failed to win over voters such as Vento.

Obama has since redoubled his efforts. Usually reluctant to offer himself up for interview,

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: barackthebigot; hatewhiteycampaign; jeremiahwright; nobama; obama; pa2008; whitevote; wright
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Barack Obama looks at his wireless device in Beckley,
West Virginia. Photograph: Alex Brandon/AP
1 posted on 03/21/2008 7:53:04 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

FR bookmark


2 posted on 03/21/2008 7:55:06 PM PDT by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: Red Steel

Barack “G D America” Obama


3 posted on 03/21/2008 7:55:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Red Steel
"The thing I didn't like about Obama; you're telling me for 20 years you been going to that church and you never heard that?"

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What, me listen?
4 posted on 03/21/2008 7:55:37 PM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: Red Steel

Senator Obama uses his wireless device to search his favourite blogs: "Damn Whitey" and "AmeriKKKa Sucks."

5 posted on 03/21/2008 7:56:14 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Red Steel

I can hear the vile screeds from “Pastor” Wright now if the DNC doesn’t pick B.H.O. in August or the Nation doesn’t pick B.H.O. in November.


6 posted on 03/21/2008 7:57:11 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Red Steel
Paul Simon & Art Garfunkel 2 - Slip Slidin' Away
7 posted on 03/21/2008 7:59:24 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Red Steel
Remember the SERMON!!!!

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8 posted on 03/21/2008 8:00:23 PM PDT by geo40xyz ((McCain, Obama or Hillarybeast possibility of 4 Supreme Court Justices, Gore @UN. The WINNER is?))
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To: Red Steel

“white voters slip away”

Blaming the voters never gets you elected.


9 posted on 03/21/2008 8:00:52 PM PDT by edcoil (Go Great in 08 ... Slide into 09)
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To: SandRat

We’d hear vile screed from Wright regardless. Even if Barry wins the nomination or the national election, Wright will spew some kind of rabid, racist, conspiratorial crap - he is off his nut.


10 posted on 03/21/2008 8:01:03 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: MurryMom
Obama struggles to limit damage in pastor row as white voters slip away

Those typical white voters are just racists.

11 posted on 03/21/2008 8:01:51 PM PDT by Libloather (March is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Red Steel

He wrote his own speech? I do not believe that. No politician on the campaign trail writes his own speeches.


12 posted on 03/21/2008 8:02:19 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Red Steel
"Obama struggles to limit damage in pastor row as white voters slip away"

One would hope there are more than white voters slipping away. I won't hold my breath.


13 posted on 03/21/2008 8:02:47 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Dad yer funny

Well, there is one problem with all of these campaigns. They have divvied and parceled up all the fragments of the American population except one which they have all neglected and taken for granted. The one that is most discriminated against. The one that is the most hated and reviled. The one to which they all owe their success. Which one? The White American Male.


14 posted on 03/21/2008 8:04:27 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Red Steel
What leadership or quality other than being 35 yrs old?????

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15 posted on 03/21/2008 8:04:50 PM PDT by geo40xyz ((McCain, Obama or Hillarybeast possibility of 4 Supreme Court Justices, Gore @UN. The WINNER is?))
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To: Red Steel

So...

Are any Freepers screen printing ‘TYPICAL WHITE PERSON’ t-shirts yet?

It would be entertaining for a cast of thousands to show up at all Obama rallies wearing them. Think we’d make the evening news?


16 posted on 03/21/2008 8:05:11 PM PDT by anonsquared
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To: Red Steel

If this was the greatest speech of all time, why does he keep falling? Perhaps the media is out of touch, what inspires people.


17 posted on 03/21/2008 8:05:43 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Always Right

very little instant polling on the speech that I’ve seen. They don’t want to know.


18 posted on 03/21/2008 8:06:59 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Red Steel

I think it’s time to change my tagline, for a while.

I’d get a t-shirt made up, if I had some good places to wear it.


19 posted on 03/21/2008 8:07:01 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (<======Typical White American)
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To: trifona; ATLDiver

Hey, check out my new tagline.


20 posted on 03/21/2008 8:07:48 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (<======Typical White American)
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To: Red Steel
Seriously, I smell Hillary in this.

Consider: every candidate who had done the necessary spying (the Clintons being, of course, Master Spies)(at least on their American opponents) knew about this,including the GOP candidates (about whom more later).

Bill took one for the cause: he's now Persona-non-Grata (sort of). But he succeeded: Obama went from around 50% of the black vote to 90% and the white vote similarly went to Hillary.

So it was now Time to Drop the Bomb.

ABC, which was always Bending Over for Bill, did the Dirty.

So Hillary will win very much on the dirty.

Now, McCain etal knew all this very well, but of course vouldn't use it during the primaries. Had Obama ("Half Honkey, All Donkey") won the Jackass nomination, the "Reverend" Wright's hate speech would have hit the Prime Time immediately.

It has only hit Prime Time now in that it gives advantage to Her Heinous.

Just speculation...

21 posted on 03/21/2008 8:08:07 PM PDT by Chairman Fred (@mousiedung.commie)
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To: Fred Nerks; Beckwith; forkinsocket

for 20 years you been going to that church


22 posted on 03/21/2008 8:08:08 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Red Steel
Great news for Obama. The soul food vote holding firm!

George Brooks, a cook in the A1 Soul Food truck, parked on the street in front of the Temple University campus in north Philadelphia, said Wright's comments reflected the thinking of many African-Americans. "That's the way we think, as a people," said Brooks. "It may be a big thing to the white race, but you know, these things happened to us. All these things that he's talking about happened to us."

23 posted on 03/21/2008 8:08:11 PM PDT by Biblebelter (If whites spew hate, Obama calls it hate speech, when his pastor says it, he calls it anger speech.)
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To: Red Steel
Obama struggles to limit damage in pastor row as white voters slip away

It's not his racist pastor. It's his racist church.

The congregation cheered and celebrated his rants.

Obama wants you to believe not only that he didn't hear these things from Wright directly, but that he was in the environment that celebrated them for 20 years and somehow was unaware.

The church grew around Wright, it reflected his views and positions. Obama's contact with Wright is a deception, and not the true issue-- Obama is saying he attended the organization built on Wright's teaching and still didn't know. His defense is, basically, that he's utterly naive...which is unacceptable in a President.

24 posted on 03/21/2008 8:08:18 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: anonsquared

I didn’t like the looks of the ones I’ve seen on eBay.

If you see any good looking ones, ping me, and I’ll do likewise.


25 posted on 03/21/2008 8:08:46 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (<===Typical White American)
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To: Red Steel
One does not go to a church where you do not agree with the philosophy or the vision of the church leader. If one does not agree with the philosophy or its leader, one leaves and embarks upon a search to find that with which you agree and provides comfort in the worship of ones faith.

Hussein would have us "typical white people" to believe he could for twenty years, tolerate the ranting of a hate spewing, anti American racial bigot. None of this hate would ever infect the views of this aspiring politician. That is completely absurd and is less than believable.

The cowardly reluctance by the msm to fully vet this candidate is not only irresponsible, it is un American. Hussein is not the candidate to deliver this longing for racial unity. He acknowledges racial division and will not improve the future for relations by becoming potus....

26 posted on 03/21/2008 8:08:46 PM PDT by The Forgotten Man (He works, he votes, generally he prays--but he always pays....)
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To: Red Steel; All

It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue.


27 posted on 03/21/2008 8:09:10 PM PDT by AbeKrieger (There is a special place in Hell for Lyndon Johnson.)
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To: anonsquared

http://www.cafepress.com/buy/typical+white/-/source_searchBox/x_0/y_0


28 posted on 03/21/2008 8:09:39 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: Red Steel
"white voters slip away"

I would think they would be stampeding away.

29 posted on 03/21/2008 8:09:59 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: anonsquared

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1989599/posts


30 posted on 03/21/2008 8:11:15 PM PDT by The Forgotten Man (He works, he votes, generally he prays--but he always pays....)
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To: Red Steel
If FNC would just get onboard and stop playing clips of the Rev. Wright sermons everything would be fine.

Boo Hoo!

31 posted on 03/21/2008 8:11:27 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: geo40xyz

TYPICAL.

32 posted on 03/21/2008 8:11:48 PM PDT by AbeKrieger (There is a special place in Hell for Lyndon Johnson.)
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To: Chairman Fred

I suspect there’s a fair amount of accuracy in your speculation...


33 posted on 03/21/2008 8:13:35 PM PDT by NewLand (Only one poll counts...our votes!)
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To: yorkie; TigersEye

Each time I hear the name Obama or see him that kiddie song ...Liar, liar pants on fire goes through my head.


34 posted on 03/21/2008 8:13:48 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Out, damned spot......OUT)
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To: Libloather
Those typical white voters are just racists.

It's bred into us, after all.

That does raise another question, though. If white racism really is bred into us like Obama says and there is a racist gene, it must be a genetic disease and disability and should be protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act.

I can see it now. Employers having to provide reasonable accommodations for racists, having to provide separate but equal facilities because minorities make whitey feel uneasy.

35 posted on 03/21/2008 8:15:17 PM PDT by seowulf
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To: Parmy
"Well, there is one problem with all of these campaigns. They have divvied and parceled up all the fragments of the American population except one which they have all neglected and taken for granted. The one that is most discriminated against. The one that is the most hated and reviled. The one to which they all owe their success. Which one? The White American Male."

In election 2008, don’t forget Angry White Man

A Brief For Whitey

36 posted on 03/21/2008 8:19:13 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Parmy
"Well, there is one problem with all of these campaigns. They have divvied and parceled up all the fragments of the American population except one which they have all neglected and taken for granted. The one that is most discriminated against. The one that is the most hated and reviled. The one to which they all owe their success. Which one? The White American Male."

In election 2008, don’t forget Angry White Man

A Brief For Whitey

37 posted on 03/21/2008 8:19:22 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Red Steel
"It's no secret that the Obama campaign is in political hot water."

Hillary on one side, "whitey" on the other. OsamaObama is going to squirm, duck, flipflop, tapdance and weave for months ... and I'm going to relish every second of it. What a chump! Bwahahahahaha!

38 posted on 03/21/2008 8:19:34 PM PDT by LiberConservative
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To: Red Steel

Folks.....will simply have to come to terms with the reality...

Obama is worse than a fraud.
Obama is a black racist.
Obama is worse than a socialist - he’s a Marxist.
Obama is a con artist of no accomplishments worthy of the Presidency.
Obama is more than “audacious” he is shockingly presumptuous.
Obama’s promise to immediatly withdraw from Iraq, benefits our enemy - not America.
Obama’s base is made up of the worse our society has to offer: the poor, the “entitled”, the perverts and the stupid.

The clincher -— if the New York Times, L.A.Times, Kennedys, Kerrys, Muslims, rappers and Hollywood are for Obama —— LOOK OUT!


39 posted on 03/21/2008 8:19:36 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

I should have thought of cafepress.


40 posted on 03/21/2008 8:19:49 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (<===Typical White American)
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To: gusopol3
very little instant polling on the speech that I’ve seen. They don’t want to know.

I am sure they did polling and do know. It just wasn't news worthy.

41 posted on 03/21/2008 8:20:02 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: gusopol3
very little instant polling on the speech that I’ve seen. They don’t want to know.

Yet you notice the absence of polling data has not stopped the MSM from fawning all over this speech as if were comparable to the Gettysburg Address or the "I have a dream" speech? According to all those "unbiased" reporters this is "the most important speech of our time".

My ass.

42 posted on 03/21/2008 8:21:38 PM PDT by PeterFinn (I am not voting for McCain. No way, no how.)
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To: Red Steel
"Awww, sh##..."


43 posted on 03/21/2008 8:22:08 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ladyjane; Red Steel
If he did write it himself (Which I doubt he did without review and tuning) he sure didn't do it ‘After the wife and kids went to bed’ late one evening. I'm sure he had been working on this for months, knowing his hate filled Pastor's words and his apparent acceptance of them would eventually bubble to the surface.
44 posted on 03/21/2008 8:22:55 PM PDT by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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To: pandoraou812

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SsFK3JJ_-E


45 posted on 03/21/2008 8:25:59 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: gusopol3
re: very little instant polling on the speech that I’ve seen. They don’t want to know.

I noticed that too. Typically, after any major speech one can't miss the polls, especially online. However, after Obama’s speech I looked but couldn't find anything other than a Rasmussen poll that had been done before the speech. I am sure that it is much easier for the MSM to do their spinning when there is little confirmed evidence to contradict their propaganda.

46 posted on 03/21/2008 8:29:30 PM PDT by Nevadan (nevadan)
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To: Red Steel

Well hell, nobody thought he was looking at the flag of his hateful country of the United States of White America.

Not surprising now why he doesn’t put his hand over his heart during the pledge. Just sits there like a little kid with hands folded in front of his zipper.


47 posted on 03/21/2008 8:30:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Red Steel
Listen for a few minutes to Joey Vento, owner of a south Philadelphia institution that serves gut-busting sandwiches through a takeaway hatch, and the scale of Barack Obama's problems become apparent. Obama is having the worst week of his campaign. It is, some believe, a week that threatens his chances of becoming president. "That minister, that was terrible, all his sayings. He's preaching hatred," Vento said. "The thing I didn't like about Obama; you're telling me for 20 years you been going to that church and you never heard that?" I>

Poor Joey Vento didn't get the MSM memo. St. Obama gave a speech greater than the Gettysburg Address and has now been recognized as the Messiah, his administration will be the Second Coming, and the lion will lay down with the lamb . . . .

BTW, I've had his sandwiches. They aren't "gut busting," if you don't put on them what Lurch put on his, they're a little bit of heaven.

48 posted on 03/21/2008 8:30:46 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: Red Steel
Barack Obama looks at his wireless device in Beckley, West Virginia. Photograph: Alex Brandon/AP

Boy is AP behind the times! We don't call 'em "wireless devices" anymore, they are called "radios."

49 posted on 03/21/2008 8:32:07 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: Red Steel

I still have a few questions about Jeremiah Wright. Let’s start with what kind of discharge he had from the Marines, then, where was he stationed and what was his rank?


50 posted on 03/21/2008 8:32:13 PM PDT by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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