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Obama struggles to limit damage in pastor row as white voters slip away
The Guardian ^ | Saturday March 22 2008 | Daniel Nasaw, Ewen MacAskill

Posted on 03/21/2008 7:53:03 PM PDT by Red Steel

Listen for a few minutes to Joey Vento, owner of a south Philadelphia institution that serves gut-busting sandwiches through a takeaway hatch, and the scale of Barack Obama's problems become apparent. Obama is having the worst week of his campaign. It is, some believe, a week that threatens his chances of becoming president.

"That minister, that was terrible, all his sayings. He's preaching hatred," Vento said. "The thing I didn't like about Obama; you're telling me for 20 years you been going to that church and you never heard that?"

Vento, 68, was speaking about Obama's former pastor and spiritual adviser, Jeremiah Wright, whose sermons have been aired repeatedly on US television denouncing the US as racist.

The clips have alienated the white voters, such as Vento, that Obama needs in his next contest with Hillary Clinton, to be held in Philadephia and the other towns and cities of Pennsylvania on April 22. But it goes further than that. The danger for Obama is not just that he could lose badly in Pennsylvania but that senior Democrats will wonder whether the loss of white votes could cost him the November general election.

Phil Singer, spokesman for Clinton, told reporters: "It's no secret that the Obama campaign is in political hot water."

Obama attempted to defuse the escalating row with a speech on Tuesday in Philadelphia in which he spoke in detail about his relationship with Wright and race in the US. It was widely acknowledged as one of his best. He wrote it on Monday night after his wife, Michelle, and their children had gone to bed. Although acclaimed by the media and political activists, his speech has failed to win over voters such as Vento.

Obama has since redoubled his efforts. Usually reluctant to offer himself up for interview,

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barackthebigot; hatewhiteycampaign; jeremiahwright; nobama; obama; pa2008; whitevote; wright
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To: gusopol3
very little instant polling on the speech that I’ve seen. They don’t want to know.

I am sure they did polling and do know. It just wasn't news worthy.

41 posted on 03/21/2008 8:20:02 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: gusopol3
very little instant polling on the speech that I’ve seen. They don’t want to know.

Yet you notice the absence of polling data has not stopped the MSM from fawning all over this speech as if were comparable to the Gettysburg Address or the "I have a dream" speech? According to all those "unbiased" reporters this is "the most important speech of our time".

My ass.

42 posted on 03/21/2008 8:21:38 PM PDT by PeterFinn (I am not voting for McCain. No way, no how.)
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To: Red Steel
"Awww, sh##..."


43 posted on 03/21/2008 8:22:08 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ladyjane; Red Steel
If he did write it himself (Which I doubt he did without review and tuning) he sure didn't do it ‘After the wife and kids went to bed’ late one evening. I'm sure he had been working on this for months, knowing his hate filled Pastor's words and his apparent acceptance of them would eventually bubble to the surface.
44 posted on 03/21/2008 8:22:55 PM PDT by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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To: pandoraou812

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SsFK3JJ_-E


45 posted on 03/21/2008 8:25:59 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: gusopol3
re: very little instant polling on the speech that I’ve seen. They don’t want to know.

I noticed that too. Typically, after any major speech one can't miss the polls, especially online. However, after Obama’s speech I looked but couldn't find anything other than a Rasmussen poll that had been done before the speech. I am sure that it is much easier for the MSM to do their spinning when there is little confirmed evidence to contradict their propaganda.

46 posted on 03/21/2008 8:29:30 PM PDT by Nevadan (nevadan)
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To: Red Steel

Well hell, nobody thought he was looking at the flag of his hateful country of the United States of White America.

Not surprising now why he doesn’t put his hand over his heart during the pledge. Just sits there like a little kid with hands folded in front of his zipper.


47 posted on 03/21/2008 8:30:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Red Steel
Listen for a few minutes to Joey Vento, owner of a south Philadelphia institution that serves gut-busting sandwiches through a takeaway hatch, and the scale of Barack Obama's problems become apparent. Obama is having the worst week of his campaign. It is, some believe, a week that threatens his chances of becoming president. "That minister, that was terrible, all his sayings. He's preaching hatred," Vento said. "The thing I didn't like about Obama; you're telling me for 20 years you been going to that church and you never heard that?" I>

Poor Joey Vento didn't get the MSM memo. St. Obama gave a speech greater than the Gettysburg Address and has now been recognized as the Messiah, his administration will be the Second Coming, and the lion will lay down with the lamb . . . .

BTW, I've had his sandwiches. They aren't "gut busting," if you don't put on them what Lurch put on his, they're a little bit of heaven.

48 posted on 03/21/2008 8:30:46 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: Red Steel
Barack Obama looks at his wireless device in Beckley, West Virginia. Photograph: Alex Brandon/AP

Boy is AP behind the times! We don't call 'em "wireless devices" anymore, they are called "radios."

49 posted on 03/21/2008 8:32:07 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: Red Steel

I still have a few questions about Jeremiah Wright. Let’s start with what kind of discharge he had from the Marines, then, where was he stationed and what was his rank?


50 posted on 03/21/2008 8:32:13 PM PDT by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: HerrBlucher

Thanks!


51 posted on 03/21/2008 8:32:37 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Out, damned spot......OUT)
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To: Red Steel
Slipping?...The Voters are running away!
52 posted on 03/21/2008 8:32:39 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: Red Steel
Let's recap Obama's involvement with the racist black-supremacist church and "rev" Wright:

- spent almost 20 years as part of the congregation
- tens of thousands of dollars donated
- was married in the church, by rev Wright
- had his children baptized in the church
- named a book after one of rev Wright's sermons
- made rev Wright a member of his campaign team
- Obama credits his conversion to Christianity to Wright
- considers Wright to be a close personal friend, his foremost spiritual adviser, and his life mentor

Please inform of additions. Some folks still cling to the belief that there exists only a casual connection between Wright and Obama.

53 posted on 03/21/2008 8:34:36 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: Inyo-Mono
It's apparent he's looking at a Blackberry, but the MSM is so determined to fly cover for him they won't say it, because they know blue collar Democrats don't use them, the people who use them are the chardonnay and brie set, Obama’s actual base.
54 posted on 03/21/2008 8:37:22 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: george76

...I think it’s a huge joke to blame Hillary. Those ‘sermons’ were available on the Trinity website for how long? We were watching them and commenting on the content MONTHS ago! So, someone from Fox decided to buy them from the website and make it plain what that fraud Wright was ‘preaching’ - I’m just surprised it took so long!

What puzzles me is the AUDICITY! Obviously Wright was so comfortable in his hate he never considered what effect those tapes may have on obama’s career...and it’s plain to see obama himself felt justified in his racism. So now obama is running on a hate-whitey platform, is he? He should have told us that from the beginning, LOL!


55 posted on 03/21/2008 8:40:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (a fair dinkum aussie)
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To: PeterFinn
Yet you notice the absence of polling data has not stopped the MSM from fawning all over this speech as if were comparable to the Gettysburg Address or the "I have a dream" speech? According to all those "unbiased" reporters this is "the most important speech of our time".

My ass.

True. Think of all the great takeaway lines from truly great speeches in the past...

The only thing we have to fear...
Ich bin ein Berliner...
Tear down this wall...

The Obama speech??? I can't think of a single sentence that soared.

56 posted on 03/21/2008 8:41:34 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: colorado tanker
It's apparent he's looking at a Blackberry, but the MSM is so determined to fly cover for him they won't say it, because they know blue collar Democrats don't use them, the people who use them are the chardonnay and brie set, Obama’s actual base.

Yes, which was the point of my satirical comment.

57 posted on 03/21/2008 8:42:41 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: ricks_place

Yes....they are running away


58 posted on 03/21/2008 8:46:50 PM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: Red Steel

And the press has hardly started on his other adviser, Rev Meek, who freely uses the N word in his sermons and thinks homosexuals are a “sick breed”, even holding a “Homosexuals go to Hell” day at his chirch - Obama may be able to ignore the loss of whites, but just wait until the gays find out what he may or may not believe and turn against him.......


59 posted on 03/21/2008 8:51:08 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: anonsquared

I want a “typical White Person:” bumper sticker.
Any for sale?


60 posted on 03/21/2008 8:53:20 PM PDT by sibb1213
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