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Certifying Parents
Wall Street Journal ^ | 3/22/08

Posted on 03/22/2008 8:02:47 AM PDT by captjanaway

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To: captjanaway

My wife and I are in the process of adopting 2 (maybe 3) girls (if the case worker will just hurry up :) ).

My wife plans on quitting work outside the home and homeschooling.

We may have to cut back on some things, but, they will get a real education.


61 posted on 03/22/2008 12:56:32 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: humblegunner

Thread crapping again? Your children aren’t homeschooled so why bother to join the thread - what happens in the homeschool community doesn’t effect you at all. If it irritates you so much to see that homeschooled children are doing better academically than their public schooled counterparts - move along. Then you won’t get your panties in such a wad.


62 posted on 03/22/2008 12:58:18 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: humblegunner

Who has said your kids are illiterate losers?

Do you not understand the concept of calculating test score averages? Home educated children ON AVERAGE score at least one grade level above public schoolers. ON AVERAGE. By high school age, the difference is three to four grade levels.

That means that YOUR kids could be geniuses and still, the home educated kids score ON AVERAGE higher than public schoolers.

http://www.hslda.org/docs/study/comp2001/HomeSchoolAchievement.pdf

The higher AVERAGE test scores of the home educated do not mean your kids are illiterate.


63 posted on 03/22/2008 1:11:41 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: humblegunner

LOL!

Hey, my oldest *illiterate loser* just received her SAT scores. Those scores, along with her weighted gpa, I’m seeing scholarship $$$$ :)

And you can’t agree because it isn’t true (your kids aren’t illiterate losers).

Heh, I learned in Stat 200 (that was considered Statistics for math dummies like me)that statistics can be manipulated. And, yes on the average we can say that homeschooled children have a lower illiteracy rate or higher test scores than public school children BUT that statistic doesn’t necessarily mean than a homeschooled education is better than a public school education because other correlating factors have to be considered (economic and social). For instance, for a child to be homeschooled, the family has to be well off enough financially for one parent to stay home (not work)or flexible enough to do both. In addition, homeschooling families value education enough to put all that time into their child’s education. As a result, the pool of public school kids included in any statistics, includes a lot more kids from single parent homes, welfare kids, and kids whose parents couldn’t care less about parenting to begin with, those with victim mentality, and all that other nonsense. Public school education isn’t a one way street -parents and children have to work at it, care about education, take responsibility for learning, etc. and some just don’t.

Statistics can kiss my...

Parenting, what goes on in the home, is far more important than everything else. The problems with education today are similar to the problems this country has in general, imo. Too many people not taking responsibility for themselves and their families, wanting something for nothing, etc.

That was my way of agreeing with you with far too many words, lol :)


64 posted on 03/22/2008 1:43:04 PM PDT by Twink
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To: TightyRighty

I didn’t realize that this thread was about homeschooling. And, yes I know this post wasn’t to me but it interested me so I replied.

Again, didn’t realize this was a homeschooling thread.


65 posted on 03/22/2008 1:53:47 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Twink

You didn’t realize this was a homeschooling thread? Am I missing something? Aren’t you reading what you are writing — what you are replying to? Am I living in an alternate universe?

Read the header on this thread. It’s about homeschooling. I’m curious — what exactly did you think we were discussing in here? Maybe I’m the one who is on medication (or who needs it).

Someone help me please.


66 posted on 03/22/2008 2:29:34 PM PDT by adopt4Christ (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: Twink
I didn’t realize that this thread was about homeschooling.

You didn't? Really? Wow.

67 posted on 03/22/2008 2:31:10 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: Conan the Librarian
My wife and I are in the process of adopting 2 (maybe 3) girls (if the case worker will just hurry up :) ). My wife plans on quitting work outside the home and homeschooling.

this is our story! we adopted two brothers and began homeschooling immediately... the older of our two sons had just turned 5 when we adopted him... i say this without wanting to offend anybody--i love, love, love our homeschooling lifestyle... every sacrifice has been well worth it... regardless of the academic portion, my husband and i have our sons' hearts... we are in our seventh year of homeschooling...

68 posted on 03/22/2008 2:34:18 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: Twink
For instance, for a child to be homeschooled, the family has to be well off enough financially for one parent to stay home (not work)or flexible enough to do both.

haha! this is absolutely not true...

69 posted on 03/22/2008 2:36:30 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: adopt4Christ

Ha, typical but I’ll answer you. The topic of the thread at the top was *certifying parents*. As a certified in many areas secondary teacher, I assumed (wrongly) that it was about certification. Then, I just read some posts and decided to reply to humblegunner (did I commit a board faux pas? a crime?).

Are you being obnoxious? Yep. Sorta proving her/his point now ain’t ya?

Thanks. Now I know never to try to discuss anything with you. Some of you just make it too easy.


70 posted on 03/22/2008 2:37:12 PM PDT by Twink
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To: TightyRighty

I know. Wow. Imagine that.


71 posted on 03/22/2008 2:38:06 PM PDT by Twink
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To: tired1
The fact is that most people are dumb as posts and have no business trying to teach anything.

that’s what government schools are for.

Well your inane comment was certainly a "dumb post".

72 posted on 03/22/2008 2:42:58 PM PDT by torchthemummy (W's Margin Of Victory In Florida 2000 - 537 / FL House Bill Number To Move Up Florida Primary - 537)
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To: latina4dubya

I didn’t say rich. Man, you people wonder why you’re considered so arrogrant and anti-conservative when you post this kind of crap.

Oh well. All’s well and good. It’s only a message board after all :)

Seriously, didn’t know it was a homeschoolers only thread. Now I know.


73 posted on 03/22/2008 2:43:54 PM PDT by Twink
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To: TightyRighty
Thread crapping again?

Perhaps. Is disagreeing now defined as Thread crapping? Guess I wasn't copied on that memo.

Your children aren’t homeschooled so why bother to join the thread

Oh, maybe to see the homeschool parents passing off their offspring as superior to mine.
It is offensive to me and I choose to address it.

If it irritates you so much to see that homeschooled children are doing better academically than their public schooled counterparts - move along.

I think not.

Move yourself.

74 posted on 03/22/2008 2:49:37 PM PDT by humblegunner ()
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To: Twink
Heh, I learned in Stat 200 (that was considered Statistics for math dummies like me)that statistics can be manipulated. And, yes on the average we can say that homeschooled children have a lower illiteracy rate or higher test scores than public school children BUT that statistic doesn’t necessarily mean than a homeschooled education is better than a public school education because other correlating factors have to be considered (economic and social). For instance, for a child to be homeschooled, the family has to be well off enough financially for one parent to stay home (not work)or flexible enough to do both. In addition, homeschooling families value education enough to put all that time into their child’s education. As a result, the pool of public school kids included in any statistics, includes a lot more kids from single parent homes, welfare kids, and kids whose parents couldn’t care less about parenting to begin with, those with victim mentality, and all that other nonsense. Public school education isn’t a one way street -parents and children have to work at it, care about education, take responsibility for learning, etc. and some just don’t.

Very well said!

75 posted on 03/22/2008 2:52:56 PM PDT by 50mm (:-O :-o - :-| ZZZZZZzzzzZZZZzzzz)
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To: Twink

You really have a chip on your shoulder. I haven’t read one “my homeschooled child is better than your public school child” at all. In fact, it’s you and humblegunner who have tossed the shots on this thread. Someone pointed out that a) you don’t have to be rich to homeschool and b) you made the mistake of not reading the article before posting and now “homeschoolers” are arrogant and anti-conservative?

Certifiable parents, indeed.


76 posted on 03/22/2008 2:55:44 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: 50mm

Thanks. Stat 200 wasn’t my best class but I did learn something :)


77 posted on 03/22/2008 2:57:49 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Twink

I think this thread is headed for the Smoky Backroom!


78 posted on 03/22/2008 3:00:39 PM PDT by 50mm (:-O :-o - :-| ZZZZZZzzzzZZZZzzzz)
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To: Twink

The article was specifically about the battle here in California regarding the certification of homeschooling parents. It’s very clear.


79 posted on 03/22/2008 3:03:04 PM PDT by adopt4Christ (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: humblegunner
This isn't about “your kids scholastic achievements”.

Check the national data on the success that home schooled students have enjoyed, over the past 10 years, and perhaps that will allow you to take the personalities out of it?

Are the FR posters really making ANY implications about your kids, or are you perhaps being a little oversensitive?

80 posted on 03/22/2008 3:06:39 PM PDT by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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