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Posted on 03/23/2008 6:14:42 PM PDT by RDTF
CHARLOTTE, N.C.-- A US Airways pilots gun accidentally discharged during a flight from Denver to Charlotte Saturday, according to as statement released by the airline. The statement said the discharge happened on Flight 1536, which left Denver at approximately 6:45am and arrived in Charlotte at approximately 11:51am.
The Airbus A319 plane landed safely and none of the flights 124 passengers or five crew members was injured, according to the statement. It was a full flight. An airline spokeswoman said the plane has been taken out of service to make sure it is safe to return to flight. A Transportation Safety Administration spokeswoman reached by WCNC Sunday said the pilot is part of TSAs Federal Flight Deck Officer (FFDO) program, which trains pilots to carry guns on flights.
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I wonder how many lives have been saved by a spare round in the chamber versus how many legs and feet have been shot accidentally. I can see having a chambered round on patrol in a war zone. Otherwise, I think it’s stupid practice.
That wasn’t bad mouthing, Eaker. You’ll know it if I ever bad mouth you, and it wouldn’t come on a fire arms thread to be sure!
Everybody knows that Glocks go off by themselves.
They're taking the plane out of service to look and see where the bullet went.
Actually, revolvers are deceiving in that they are internally much more complicated (more moving parts) than a semiauto. Outwardly, they are indeed simpler to use. If you like them, than that is the weapon for you. I like them as well, especially in .357 although it is not my own first choice when I go shooting. I’ve recommended them many times to people who only want to own one handgun that is simple to operate.
Kinda like an SUV discharging itself into oncoming traffic?
Three men in the car being chased by police jumped out and ran, officers said. One was tackled and it was at that point that the officer accidentally shot herself.
How do you know she was holstering her weapon?
Now tell us when you got this gun god complex going. (snicker, duck & hide)
As far as it being unholstered, it is supposed to be holstered in an issue holster. Recently FFDOs were being issued a new holster that had a slot to insert a padlock for transport.
If I wasn’t so old and you weren’t a SEAL I’d search ya out!
If you look closely I think you can see some clear plastic goggles on the guy with the gun to his own head. Hard to tell for sure, the pic isn’t high resolution enough.
The more knobs, levers, buttons, you add the more worthless, but lawyer and liberal Politburo acceptable, the gun becomes. Your finger is your safety. Don't put it on the trigger if you don't plan to shoot, how's that?
Any pistol with a decocker lever is perfectly safe with a round in the chamber. Actually, now that I’m thinking on it, any pistol is perfectly safe with a round in the chamber, so long as it’s a double action or the safety is on, or both.
Maybe we can go yell at each other on an Obama thread!
I heard the news report
I found a link that mentions it:
Well, please explain.
Actually, there is nothing wrong with a Glock. Just keep the dang thing in a holster until you want to shoot somebody! Then it will work, guarandamnteed, 18 times in a row.
Maybe so, but it is no big deal to totally tear a revolver completely apart (including all internal parts) to clean it. I have done it many times with my black powder revolvers.
Good thing the gun was in the cockpit when it fired itself. There’s electronics and cables down around the cargo bays, if it had fired itself there it may have caused damage, maybe hitting the center fuel tank!
Naah! But an awful lot of posters on FR do... /grin
What’s the trigger pull of a Glock vs a revolver?
Less is more.
Of course, you are right. Those zoomies don’t need gunz anyway, they already have fire extinguishers and fire axes, no need for firearms as well.........
“All the more reason not to have a round in the chamber.”
That’s what the Marines in Lebanon were told to do, what could go wrong?
I think Condition 1 is OK, but you should not goof around with it in that state. It’s safe in its holster and won’t go off if you have a good holster.
Let’s see what details come out.
Whats the trigger pull of a Glock vs a revolver?
128 posted on 03/23/2008 8:34:44 PM MDT by DBrow
A DA revolver is about 12# uncocked and about 5# cocked.
Glocks come in 3.5#, 5#, 8.5# and 12# triggers
A DA revolver is about 12# uncocked and about 5# cocked.
I have seen between 3 to 15 pounds. The first for competition and the highest for New York cops.
So when the door opens for any reason the pilot is supposed to pull out the gun and chamber a round? And when the door closes, the pilot is supposed to unchamber that round? How many times does the pilot do that? And then there is the issue of the time to chamber a round when the door is forcefully breached. IMO, it's safer to leave it loaded, with a round in the chamber, and the gun in the holster.
Subjectively, I cannot tell the difference between the DA trigger pull on my semi-automatic Ruger .45 and my Dan Wesson .357. I’d say my .357 has a lighter trigger pull used single action.
That's a great scene and line from a really cool movie. However, the scenario Bond is describing is pure Hollywood myth and BS. This myth of a single small-caliber puncture in the fuselage automatically resulting in "explosive decompression" is simply nonsense.
While no one should claim that such an occurrence would be desirable, the fact is that all pressurized airplanes are, by design, constantly leaking air. The pressurization status is maintained just by having the pumps maintain the desired differential between the inside pressure and the outside pressure. I have read somewhere that on a large airliner the fuselage exhaust hole for this system is about the size of a basketball.
If you shot a hole through the fuselage wall with a pistol you could probably seal it by slapping one of those magazines from behind the seats over it.... /grin
I have a .45 revolver by my bed. I get the benefit of .45ACP modern bullet design, and the simplicity of point click interface. And moon clip reloading. And that sweet S&W trigger. And nearly infinite reliability.
Yes, I saw that. G. Gordon Liddy was right.
So in NY, if pull length is equal, Glocks and revolvers are the same.
But a 12 lb revolver and a 5 lb Glock are not the same wrt trigger snags or other things poking to go-bar.
I like Glocks, most NDs I’ve heard of had nothing to do with design.
Glocks being popular with cops and civvies alike, there are lots of them out there, so an accident won’t be that rare.
Paraord’s LDA hammer is partially cocked too. If you don’t believe it, try inserting a dead cartridge (on the range, keep it pointed in a safe direction etc!), and then pull the trigger twice. I agree they have the dissimilar safety setup, and are thus different from the others that way.
Daewoo pistols have a partially cocked safety.
I like the ParaOrd designs a lot. I have small to medium hands, and the double stack isn’t good for me, but their LTC in particular works for me very well.
I think they are bismuth rounds which have low penetration on bulkheads. Saw a video they were like plaster of paris bullets.
Yup. Worthless pieces of used food. The proper flight deck weapon is a good quality 1911-pattern .45 in Condition 3 (full mag, empty chamber.)
I carry my .45 with its 4 (spare) magazines.
Revolver is for bedside.
"B-B-But it-itzzz not suppose ta have a (snork) bullet in the buh-buh barrel thingy if you're not using it (sniff)".
What good is a weapon without a round in the chamber ? Might as well be carrying a brick.
glock owner x 2
looks like more ammo for the liberal propaganda mission to ban guns
Was the Pilots name Barney Fife?
Hark! I hear a pistol shot!