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Police race to match criminals' firepower, Congress owns blame (Propaganda alert)
The Morning Journal ^ | 03/24/2008 | The Morning Journal

Posted on 03/24/2008 7:31:13 AM PDT by holymoly

Four years after the federal ban on assault weapons was allowed to expire, police are engaged in an arms race with criminals. More and more police departments now arm patrol officers with military-style weaponry that can match criminals' firepower and even penetrate body armor.

Sadly, the lawmen had warned Congress and President Bush about this very problem in 2004 as they tried in vain to be heard over the pro-gun drumbeat of the National Rifle Association.

Last year saw the largest number of police officers killed on duty in five years, with 69 shot to death. Six times in 2007, two or more officers were killed in a single incident.

''Our departments are moving to these weapons out of necessity across the country,'' The Associated Press was told by Chief Scott Knight, an official of the International Association of Chiefs of Police. Knight's own small department in Chaska, Minn., has ordered 10 assault rifles with 30-round ammunition clips.

Back in 2004, the then-head of Knight's organization warned, ''Weapons of this nature serve no legitimate sporting or hunting purposes and have no place in our community. Unless Congress acts, the firearms of choice for terrorists, drug dealers, gang members and thugs will be back on our streets where once again our officers will be outgunned by criminals.'' That has come to pass.

Miami Police Chief John Timoney calls the new arms race with criminals ''a national problem.'' He has armed his officers with AR-15 assault rifles in response.

Los Angeles police learned the danger of being outgunned by criminals wearing body armor in 1997, when 11 officers were injured, plus two civilians, in a gun battle with two bank robbers. That, no doubt, was on the mind of Chief William Bratton when arguing in 2004 to keep the federal assault weapon ban in place, he demanded to know, ''By what right does Congress and the President of the United States put at risk the lives of the young men and women who put on those uniforms and those badges?''

Chief Bratton's question remains just as urgent today. Military style weapons have no legitimate place in civilian hands on America's streets.

Four years ago, as the ban expired, we posed this question: ''Who in Congress will have the guts now to introduce a new and even tighter ban on such killing machines?'' The question remains relevant.


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To: holymoly

The majority of cops go through their entire career without ever firing their gun, whether that be an ‘assault rifle’ or the standard issue sidearm.


21 posted on 03/24/2008 8:03:18 AM PDT by eclecticEel (oh well, Hunter 2012 anyone?)
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To: holymoly

These people are plain stupid. I’d love to have a nice little press conference with them.

It would be in a junior high school, with their regular desks. If I had one person to help me out, it might be Ted Nugent.

I’d proceed to treat them like little children, explaining to them that a .22 is the chosen caliber of criminals.


22 posted on 03/24/2008 8:04:34 AM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: holymoly

Did some followup google searching and it seems that Police Chief Scott Knight has made the news several times as an anti-gunner. Did some checking on his town of Chaska Minn and seems pretty damned peaceful there. Nice and quiet and lower then average crime rate for Minnesota.

Me thinks Scott Knight just wanted to buy those AR-15’s for his police force and needed to find an excuse.


23 posted on 03/24/2008 8:05:32 AM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: Sender
LOL, this buffoon continues to claim that during the AW ban, everything was cool, but suddenly after it expired, gangs, thugs and cop killers just stocked up and started shooting cops.

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"Good afternoon my good man. I and a dozen of my amigos from the Mara Salvatrucha fraternity would like to purchase several AR-15 semi-automatic weapons so that we might engage in self-defense preparations as well as some leisurely watermelon plinking. Would you be a good chap and wrap those up and throw in a couple of thousand rounds of 5.56mm before the next LAPD shift change? Thank you ever so much."

24 posted on 03/24/2008 8:05:54 AM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: holymoly

The left-wing extremists in Cleveland are getting panicky that the US Supremes won’t rule in their favor?


25 posted on 03/24/2008 8:07:26 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: wastedyears

There was actually a guy in the Strip District over the weekend that for some unknown reason started firing a .22 pistol at a passing car. He was very unlucky that the car was an unmarked police car carrying 2 homocide detectives that stopped, got out and proceeded to put 7 rounds into him.


26 posted on 03/24/2008 8:09:21 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: Jaxter
>the car was an unmarked police car carrying 2 homocide detectives that stopped, got out and proceeded to put 7 rounds into him


27 posted on 03/24/2008 8:11:08 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Jaxter
Good morning.

How many were shot with their own weapon?

Michael Frazier

28 posted on 03/24/2008 8:13:14 AM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: massgopguy
I didn't know that Bushmaster made M-14s.
29 posted on 03/24/2008 8:14:38 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: G.Mason
Military style weapons are exactly what will be needed to water the Tree of Liberty.

Exactly! The Second Amendment was intended for average citizens to keep an bear military-class arms to combat an enemy military. Of course such weapons would then be able to combat a police force gone rogue.

30 posted on 03/24/2008 8:16:27 AM PDT by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: brazzaville; Jaxter

On average, about half.


31 posted on 03/24/2008 8:18:09 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: VeniVidiVici

see my new tagline.


32 posted on 03/24/2008 8:24:40 AM PDT by papertyger (YOU'RE A RACIST! YOU'RE A RACIST! (looking for a job in journalism))
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To: holymoly
That slurping noise you hear is the Morning Journal's editoral staff's collective tongues licking the anal orifices of the jackbooted freedom haters.
33 posted on 03/24/2008 8:24:50 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: RoadKingSE
"Certainly, amigos. Would you like the latest Bloomberg collection variants with brick-and-mortar prints, or perhaps the more reliable Kalashnikov gas system uppers? Excellent. I'll get the ammo."

"Now, I'll just need your valid USA drivers license and we'll do a quick computer check. No, it must be American. Yes, even if you pay in cash, I'm sorry. No, you can't have your sister come in and pick them up. No, I don't want your sister. I'm sorry, but you'll just have to shop in a poorly-regulated Southern state where gun show dealers illegally sell machine guns out of the trunks of their cars, placing the lives of our brave police officers in danger. Or you can just ask anyone on a streetcorner in LA. You can get anything you want. We're bound by the law, you understand. You boys come back when you're legal, OK?"

34 posted on 03/24/2008 8:25:27 AM PDT by Sender (Feltzqlna dads if mental our Prophet, Peace Be Upon Him)
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To: Jaxter

Are the officers ok?


35 posted on 03/24/2008 8:26:59 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." FDR)
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To: Joe Brower

Not an M-14 or AR but here is a BM 7.62

http://www.bushmaster.com/bcs/BCWBCSR20.asp?zoom_highlight=7%2E62

I do think the 6.8mm’s are cute.


36 posted on 03/24/2008 8:28:20 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: B4Ranch

I think one of them was hit in the arm. I don’t think it was serious. I’ll see if I can find a link.


37 posted on 03/24/2008 8:31:23 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: holymoly

Militarized “law enforcement” agencies are the standing army our Founders feared.


38 posted on 03/24/2008 8:32:43 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Guns donít kill people, criminals and the governments that create them do.)
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To: B4Ranch
I was wrong. The detective was shot in the lower back. This all happened about 2 blocks from where I work. I don't think the perp was a local as the Spaghetti Warehouse is 1 block from one of the largest police stations in the 'burgh. Also, there was another fatal shooting about 4 blocks from this one on the same night(Friday).

LINK HERE!

39 posted on 03/24/2008 8:45:53 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: Beelzebubba
Militarized “law enforcement” agencies are the standing army our Founders feared.

Exactly correct. So, immediately after first guaranteeing the right to free speech, they foresaw that problem and stated the solution.

Something about hunting, or sports, I believe.

40 posted on 03/24/2008 8:49:25 AM PDT by Sender (Feltzqlna dads if mental our Prophet, Peace Be Upon Him)
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