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China: Countries urged to see 'true face' of Dalai Lama
China Daily ^ | 03/26/08 | Qin Jize

Posted on 03/26/2008 8:54:27 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Countries urged to see 'true face' of Dalai Lama

By Qin Jize (China Daily)

Updated: 2008-03-26 07:10

Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang yesterday again urged the international community to see the Dalai Lama's "true face" and offer no support for his secessionist activities.

Qin made the remarks in response to US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's recent call for China to consider a new policy to address the Tibet issue and to start talks with the Dalai Lama.

US House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi also visited the Dalai Lama last week.

Qin said the position of just a few countries did not represent that of the international community.

More than 100 nations have expressed their support and understanding of the Chinese government's attitude to protecting the lives and property of its citizens from violent riots, he said.

Qin said the central government's policy toward the Dalai Lama is consistent and explicit, saying it not only listens to what he says but, more importantly, observes what he does.

China yesterday also criticized a British newspaper's report that linked the Beijing Olympics with the Berlin Games of 1936, saying the story is an insult to Chinese citizens and to the people of the world.

A report published in the British newspaper the Sunday Times said China is holding the Olympics for the same reason Adolf Hitler did in 1936, as an opportunity to collect accolades.

Qin said the Beijing Olympics is a magnificent sports meeting, and people from all nations have expressed their wishes to use it as an opportunity to enhance global understanding, friendship and cooperation.

"The Olympic torch symbolizes humankind's noble ideals and beautiful aspirations," Qin said.

" It also casts light on the gloomy mentality of some people, which will help the common people see their true face," he said.

"The Beijing Olympic Games must be a success with all the efforts made by the people of the


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To: kipita
So I tend not to like the Dalai Lama and all "strongly enforced" religions.

There is nothing "strongly enforced" about Tibetan Buddhism. The Dalai Lama issues no orders or instructions to Buddhists other than his personal students and they have entered into a student teacher relationship voluntarily. You are free to hold the opinion you do but it is entirely false.

151 posted on 03/27/2008 2:48:36 AM PDT by TigersEye (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: kipita

I suppose our retaliatory attack and sanctions on Gaddafi had nothing to do with his son’s change of mind and he just coincidentally gave up his WMD program after we invaded Iraq? Whatever. That still doesn’t explain your accusations against me.


152 posted on 03/27/2008 2:52:56 AM PDT by TigersEye (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: kipita; TigersEye

“My personal opinion is that both of you represent the same programmed mindset, you both are charging at flags based on hate. At first is was the Europeans, next the Indians, then Africans followed by Communist, Bin Laden and brown skin people and now the Chinese.”

Can you believe this statement? This ChiCom is actually shrilling for Osama Bin Laden!! Wow. He thinks OBL is the target of unreasonable American hatred. You’re right, TigersEye - we do have a Chairman Mao-Jeremiah Wright liberation theologist here.

“So you two keep up the good work of hunting down all ChiCom like myself who write poorly and are fools by being brainwashed by China.”

I am going to wear that as a badge of honor.


153 posted on 03/27/2008 4:54:04 AM PDT by indcons (Boycott the 2008 Genocide Olympics)
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To: TigersEye

“Same old same old. I crushed your points and you have failed to rebut. Until you do I can just keep answering your insults and empty claims of victory.”

Translation: You’ve got nothing so you’ll just continue with childish retorts.


154 posted on 03/27/2008 4:55:23 AM PDT by Dr. Marten (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
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To: TigersEye; kipita

Give it up, Kipita. You might as well be having this debate with a brick wall because you’re arguing with someone who thinks he knows everything after allegedly meeting a few lamas, reading a few books and scrolling through Wikipedia.


155 posted on 03/27/2008 4:58:57 AM PDT by Dr. Marten (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
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To: TigersEye

“Hate? That is the silliest thing I’ve been accused of yet. You are simply ignorant of the subject at hand. It really shows.”

Kipita is long lost out there somewhere, but then again, so are you. It’s quite humorous that you would have the audacity to tell someone else they have no idea what they’re talking about.


156 posted on 03/27/2008 5:02:49 AM PDT by Dr. Marten (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
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To: Dr. Marten

Way to go, Dr. Marten. Look at the company you are keeping and who you are defending. Kipita is a ChiCom troll who thinks that Bin Laden is persecuted by White America (the latter is implied in his bizarre post upthread).

Kipita’s post is almost entirely representative of the pro-Chinese genocide posters that post here.


157 posted on 03/27/2008 5:08:16 AM PDT by indcons (Boycott the 2008 Genocide Olympics)
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To: Dr. Marten; kipita; TigersEye
You might as well be having this debate with a brick wall because you’re arguing with someone who thinks he knows everything after allegedly meeting a few lamas, reading a few books and scrolling through Wikipedia.

Funny, I scrolled through this thread, and the only ones I see citing Wiki on this thread are you and kipita.

If you're going to throw a grenade, make sure you pull the pin first.

158 posted on 03/27/2008 5:10:23 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: kipita; Virginia Ridgerunner; Army Air Corps; cardinal4; Darksheare; MARKUSPRIME; driftdiver; ...

“So you [...] keep up the good work of hunting down all ChiCom like myself who write poorly and are fools by being brainwashed by China.”

Take a bow, fellow FReepers. ChiCom shrill and Osama Bin Laden supporter, kipita, has paid the ChiCom Troll Hunting Society the ultimate compliment.


159 posted on 03/27/2008 5:16:13 AM PDT by indcons (Boycott the 2008 Genocide Olympics)
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To: indcons

Way to go, Dr. Marten. Look at the company you are keeping and who you are defending. Kipita is a ChiCom troll who thinks that Bin Laden is persecuted by White America (the latter is implied in his bizarre post upthread).

Kipita’s post is almost entirely representative of the pro-Chinese genocide posters that post here.

 

My response was directed at Tigerseye. I hadn't read any of kipita's comments before-hand and nor am I familiar with this fella. I am however familiar with TigersEye's M.O. and his self-proclaimed expertise on all things Tibetan.

160 posted on 03/27/2008 5:18:24 AM PDT by Dr. Marten (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
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To: dirtboy

Funny, I scrolled through this thread, and the only ones I see citing Wiki on this thread are you and kipita.

If you're going to throw a grenade, make sure you pull the pin first.

The Wikipedia comment was in reference to one of his previous responses suggesting that Wikipedia was something only he knew about.  

161 posted on 03/27/2008 5:26:22 AM PDT by Dr. Marten (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
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To: indcons

I tire of the Chicom drones. I do wish the mods would zot some of these imbeciles. They fool no one. The PRC = backward authoritarian garbage. RANG RANG!


162 posted on 03/27/2008 5:38:56 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: TigersEye; kipita
Hate? That is the silliest thing I’ve been accused of yet.

It's the standard response from the totalitarian mindset. Dems love shrieking HATE! to try and stifle discussion when they've lost the debate. So do ChiComs, apparently.

163 posted on 03/27/2008 5:54:44 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Dr. Marten
The Wikipedia comment was in reference to one of his previous responses suggesting that Wikipedia was something only he knew about.

Yet you and kipita are the ones citing Wiki here.

Like I said. Make sure your grenades can't get thrown back at you before you throw them.

164 posted on 03/27/2008 6:02:26 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy; Dr. Marten
This following (comment #4) was my only relevant comment on this thread....

US House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi also visited the Dalai Lama last week

I tend to think the Dalai Lama are to Tibetans and a better life in Tibet as a part of China as Black preachers are to Black America and a better local life in the greater America. It's no wonder the Democratic elite love the Dalai Lama.

And when asked why do I think this way I gave comment 22. The rest is being drawn into an argument that is pointless because all sides live far below the quality of life in the West.

165 posted on 03/27/2008 6:05:00 AM PDT by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: kipita
Yeah, well, this comment of yours speaks volumes about your totalitarian mindset:

My personal opinion is that both of you represent the same programmed mindset, you both are charging at flags based on hate. At first is was the Europeans, next the Indians, then Africans followed by Communist, Bin Laden and brown skin people and now the Chinese.

Last I checked, Communism was responsible for the deaths of roughly 70+ million people. Yet the West, in your view, is engaging in mindless, irrational hate for being opposed to such. And then you treat bin Laden as some kind of other irrational Western bogeyman.

Which makes you no different than the looney American libs that FR opposes every day of the week. Same crap, different continent.

166 posted on 03/27/2008 6:38:41 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Last I checked, Communism was responsible for the deaths of roughly 70+ million people. Yet the West, in your view, is engaging in mindless, irrational hate for being opposed to such. And then you treat bin Laden as some kind of other irrational Western bogeyman.

Which makes you no different than the looney American libs that FR opposes every day of the week. Same crap, different continent.

Again, in comment #22, I addressed that issue. From the perspective of many Taiwanese friends (again, comment #22 which reflects pre-Civil War China), the West is simple to understand, first religion then gunpowder. So the counter argument would be how many people has religion killed in the history of mankind?

In addition, being in Europe, most people want to know why Americans hate people who have been different than them throughout its history and until today. When one tries to explain the complexities most people don't understand "shades of gray" and would rather if things were explained in a "black and white" sort of way. I tend to think "black and white" explanations are a thing of the past and gray complexities are the future. So I've analyzed and criticized China, Taiwan, the Dalai Lama, US presidential politics, black America and "black and white analysis" but the black side of issues will say I'm on the white side and the white side will probably say I'm on the black side so I tend the think the best solution is for black and white to continue to kill each other forever and I'll still be gray, living in a gray society in southern Spain in peace.

167 posted on 03/27/2008 7:00:30 AM PDT by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: indcons

Yee haw. ChiCom lapdog spotted, engaged, and squished.


168 posted on 03/27/2008 7:02:14 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: marron

The Dalai Lama is no more a “threat” to China ... than Ghandi was a “threat” to England.


169 posted on 03/27/2008 7:03:23 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: kipita
So the counter argument would be how many people has religion killed in the history of mankind?

Well, last I checked, Christianity has largely outgrown that. Meanwhile, the new religion of the hard left, totalitarian communism, killed last century on a scale not seen before in human history.

I'll still be gray, living in a gray society in southern Spain in peace.

And living under the US NATO defense umbrella. Where you can live in deliberate, abject ignorance as you spew derision and invectives at the country that made a peaceful Europe possible. Typical lame lefty.

170 posted on 03/27/2008 7:08:42 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

“And living under the US NATO defense umbrella. Where you can live in deliberate, abject ignorance as you spew derision and invectives at the country that made a peaceful Europe possible. Typical lame lefty.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1735777/posts

Actually, minus many Dixiecrats, I defend American conservatives as I tend to think they made the world a better place. But I think the Republican party is infested with Dixiecrats and true American conservatives represent about 10% of Americans but they are usually marginalized and somewhat powerless based on votes. Of course most of my European friends are convinced I’m really here working for the CIA and gathering intelligence. I guess if I were “smart” I’d say “yea man, I ain’t nothin but a poo black man from Nawlins who dem dam white racist Americans treated like an animal so...” But I’ll remain gray and blame the problems of black Americans on black Americans and the problems of conservative Americans on Dixiecrats.


171 posted on 03/27/2008 7:29:52 AM PDT by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: kipita
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1735777/posts

Ah, so you post an old Eisenhower speech. Please tell us how that changes the fact that you have engaged in hypocritical America bashing as you gloat about 'peaceful' Europe. Peaceful only because of the American mindset that you find so offensive.

the problems of conservative Americans on Dixiecrats.

Really. Dixiecrats made Ronald Reagan's presidency possible. Of course, you and your pro-Chicom mindset probably sees that as a bad thing, given that he was largely responsible for the global demise of communism. So I can see why you don't like Dixiecrats.

172 posted on 03/27/2008 7:36:45 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: kipita
true American conservatives represent about 10% of Americans but they are usually marginalized and somewhat powerless based on votes.

I would put your percentage of 'true American conservatives' (i.e., Paultards) at about four percent of the electorate. And they are a scourge on the electorate with their antiwar idiocy.

173 posted on 03/27/2008 7:40:19 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

“Peaceful only because of the American mindset that you find so offensive.”

Europeans have adopted many aspects of the American mindset. Americans are adopting many aspects of old Europe.

“Really. Dixiecrats made Ronald Reagan’s presidency possible.”

Wow, my first post on FR and I’ve learned so much since then that it seems as through it was 10 years ago...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1241441/posts

Reagan Democrats are still Democrats and it was Reagan’s “grayness” that made him so great. Moreover, I’ve never in any of my statements promoted communism. I simply think communism is one of the worst forms of government. But the Dalai Lama has said that he’s half Buddist/half Communist.


174 posted on 03/27/2008 8:05:38 AM PDT by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: kipita

Quoting you - Reagan was a “moderate” after all and Osama Bin Laden is a “victim of White racism.”

You are truly a very unique a troll; pro-liberal/pro-terrorist/pro-ChiCom. A trifecta - in other words.


175 posted on 03/27/2008 8:12:43 AM PDT by indcons (Boycott the 2008 Genocide Olympics)
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To: kipita
Reagan Democrats are still Democrats and it was Reagan’s “grayness” that made him so great.

Reagan was gray? That's a real laffer. He was black and white about communism and core conservative values.

Please, go find some quant tapas in your beloved peaceful Spanish countryside and go discuss this with the patrons there. They will fall for your nonsense. All you are doing is annoying us with your nonsensical hypocritical idiocy.

176 posted on 03/27/2008 8:15:33 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: kipita
Reagan Democrats are still Democrats

But you said earlier that Dixiecrats were the problem in the Republican Party. Please make up your mind.

177 posted on 03/27/2008 8:19:35 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: indcons
Quoting you - Reagan was a “moderate” after all and Osama Bin Laden is a “victim of White racism.”

Reagan simply inspired people to be better individuals and was committed to the human condition, which is why he wanted to end communism. One only has to compare Eastern Europe to Western Europe to understand the evils of communism. Osama Bin Laden has no meaning in my life and I can't understand why he means anything to anyone.

A trifecta - in other words.

Now there's a word that any horse racing fan like myself loves to hear.

178 posted on 03/27/2008 8:20:42 AM PDT by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: kipita
Reagan simply inspired people to be better individuals and was committed to the human condition, which is why he wanted to end communism.

That does not make him 'gray'. Far from it, at the time, he was pitch black in his opposition to communism and his desire to end it. Most of the establishment at the time thought communism was either inevitable or should be appeased. Few thought it could be halted in our lifetimes.

You really just are spewing nonsense. Best to stop digging that hole you are in any deeper.

179 posted on 03/27/2008 8:24:06 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: kipita
You wrote: "Osama Bin Laden has no meaning in my life and I can't understand why he means anything to anyone."

However, in your earlier post that I referred to, you wrote this: My personal opinion is that both of you represent the same programmed mindset, you both are charging at flags based on hate. At first is was the Europeans, next the Indians, then Africans followed by Communist, Bin Laden and brown skin people and now the Chinese.

Listen, the US is morally, financially, spiritually going to her lowest levels in history and there are no leaders, the family unit is disintegrating and the only thing America had that other countries didn’t have was the quality of life, which Scandinavia has quickly surpassed America.


Your revisionist post gets 5 Pinocchios (the max. possible score), ChiCom.
180 posted on 03/27/2008 9:02:36 AM PDT by indcons (Boycott the 2008 Genocide Olympics)
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To: dirtboy
That's a real laffer. He was black and white about communism and core conservative values.

Your conservative values but not mine.

Please, go find some quant tapas in your beloved peaceful Spanish countryside and go discuss this with the patrons there. They will fall for your nonsense. All you are doing is annoying us with your nonsensical hypocritical idiocy.

I'll take your advice about the tapas but almost no one falls for my nonsensical hypocritical idiocy. Not even my wife.

181 posted on 03/27/2008 9:58:48 AM PDT by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: dirtboy
he was pitch black in his opposition to communism and his desire to end it. Most of the establishment at the time thought communism was either inevitable or should be appeased. Few thought it could be halted in our lifetimes.

I tend to strongly with this statement.

You really just are spewing nonsense. Best to stop digging that hole you are in any deeper.

I respect your opinion.

182 posted on 03/27/2008 10:01:13 AM PDT by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: indcons
Osama Bin Laden means nothing to me but he means a lot to you and so that's why I stated what I stated.

Your revisionist post gets 5 Pinocchios (the max. possible score), ChiCom.

I really never wanted to be the best at any one thing in life but I wanted to be average at many, many things and connect to all people. But at least I know I'm one of the best ChiCom's alive.

183 posted on 03/27/2008 10:06:27 AM PDT by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: kipita

Run away now, Bin Laden lover. Go listen to another Jeremiah Wright sermon and we can discuss another aspect of your hatred of America after you finish.


184 posted on 03/27/2008 10:14:30 AM PDT by indcons (A lie repeated a 100 times becomes the truth - ChiCom pedophile Chairman Mao)
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To: indcons

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1887372/posts

Here’s one insight about local black America and I wrote another one about analysing black America but I can’t seem to find it. You’ll have many problems in the future thanks to many Jeremiah Wrights at many levels. The same can be said of Tibetans and the Dalai Lama.


185 posted on 03/27/2008 10:45:59 AM PDT by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: kipita

You are dishonest and a liar. This is my last post to you on this thread.


186 posted on 03/27/2008 11:06:10 AM PDT by indcons (A lie repeated 100 times becomes the truth - ChiCom pedophile Chairman Mao)
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To: Dr. Marten
Translation: You’ve got nothing so you’ll just continue with childish retorts.

Translation: I can't rebut and have nothing so this is my childish retort.

187 posted on 03/27/2008 1:10:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: Dr. Marten; kipita
Kipita is long lost out there somewhere, but then again, so are you. It’s quite humorous that you would have the audacity to tell someone else they have no idea what they’re talking about.

Why? Because you think you know it all? Very childish. You can't even make up your mind whether kipita made a better argument or I did. Obviously you can't refute me on the substance of my reply to kipita.

188 posted on 03/27/2008 1:13:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: Dr. Marten
My response was directed at Tigerseye. I hadn't read any of kipita's comments before-hand and nor am I familiar with this fella.

That gives a clear illumination of your idea of scholastic methodology. Respond first then go back and study the material.

189 posted on 03/27/2008 1:16:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: Dr. Marten; kipita
I am however familiar with TigersEye's M.O. and his self-proclaimed expertise on all things Tibetan.

So far you have been steadfastly unwilling to give and cites for your claims but I will try again. Show one post, with a live link, where I made that claim. I have only spoken of the things I do know and what I told kipita is correct. Tibetan Buddhism is not an "enforced religion."

190 posted on 03/27/2008 1:20:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: Dr. Marten; dirtboy
The Wikipedia comment was in reference to one of his previous responses suggesting that Wikipedia was something only he knew about.

That isn't true. Now you are making things up out of whole cloth. I said only that you had previously used About.com, which gives no source references, in a similar argument a few days ago and I countered with a very highly sourced document from Wikipedia. I was only pointing out the humor in you now using it as your reference.

191 posted on 03/27/2008 1:24:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: dirtboy; kipita

What is really a hoot is that he claims to be a Black American, born in New Orleans, living in Spain and disdains the culture of victimhood (my description since his is a paragraph long) but turns around and throws down the victim card naming several leftist victim groups with Osama bin Laden and Mallomar GadDaffy Duck thrown in for good measure.


192 posted on 03/27/2008 1:35:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: indcons
You are dishonest and a liar.

You must have known me when I frequented night clubs in my youth. I swear I've changed. Really!

This is my last post to you on this thread.

I know I've received many cold slaps on the face on Sunday morning saying "I will never talk to you again".

ChiCom pedophile Chairman Mao

Now that's the truth. Not only was he a pedophile but he also had VD big time and continued with molesting children. My ex-boss (comment #22) told me about this.

193 posted on 03/27/2008 1:43:13 PM PDT by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: TigersEye
That isn't true. Now you are making things up out of whole cloth. I said only that you had previously used About.com, which gives no source references, in a similar argument a few days ago and I countered with a very highly sourced document from Wikipedia. I was only pointing out the humor in you now using it as your reference.
 
Yeah, you go with that. It's your story, you can tell it anyway you like. I have better things to do with my time than engaging in pissing contests with a self-proclaimed know-it-all with no personal experience inside of the country he claims to have so much knowledge about.
 
Better luck to ya.

194 posted on 03/27/2008 1:43:13 PM PDT by Dr. Marten (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
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To: kipita
But the Dalai Lama has said that he’s half Buddist/half Communist.

Site a source in context for that statement. You might also explain why his government in exile has drawn up outlines for a democratic government for the unlikely possibility that Tibet might someday have some self-determination. He must not be "strongly enforcing" his secular views the way he does his "religious" rule. lol

195 posted on 03/27/2008 1:49:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: Dr. Marten
So, having nothing, you have "run out of wind" as you accused me of previously? lol

I guess you can only keep cut-n-pasting the same insults and hollow claims of victory so long.

196 posted on 03/27/2008 1:51:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: TigersEye
Site a source in context for that statement.

Why don't you go to Google and input "half buddist half marxist" and read from all of the various ChiCom sources.

197 posted on 03/27/2008 2:01:31 PM PDT by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: TigersEye
Site a source in context for that statement. You might also explain why his government in exile has drawn up outlines for a democratic government for the unlikely possibility that Tibet might someday have some self-determination. He must not be "strongly enforcing" his secular views the way he does his "religious" rule. lol

.....and after reading these sources then maybe you will realize that he wants to continue the Buddist welfare system. That's why I made comment #4 without getting into to much detail about "semi-classified" information.

198 posted on 03/27/2008 2:08:00 PM PDT by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: TigersEye

No, I simply grew bored with your childish demeanor.


199 posted on 03/27/2008 2:55:40 PM PDT by Dr. Marten (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
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To: Dr. Marten
It took you an awfully long time to get bored with it. Somehow that doesn't sound very credible. I'm still pretty fascinated with your insane behavior. I think I found a very good description of it on another thread. I'm sure you will recognize yourself in this...

Dr. Marten style.

200 posted on 03/27/2008 3:33:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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