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DOOMSDAY FEARS SPARK LAWSUIT
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/27/823924.aspx ^

Posted on 03/28/2008 4:40:13 AM PDT by chessplayer

"The builders of the world's biggest particle collider are being sued in federal court over fears that the experiment might create globe-gobbling black holes or never-before-seen strains of matter that would destroy the planet."

(Excerpt) Read more at cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: doomsday; lawsuit; particlecollider

1 posted on 03/28/2008 4:40:14 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Well, they better hurry up because the other day in the grocery check out line one of the rags proclaimed the end of the world would be in May.


2 posted on 03/28/2008 4:43:41 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: chessplayer

Luddites-R us


3 posted on 03/28/2008 4:44:33 AM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns.)
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To: chessplayer
...the experiment might create globe-gobbling black holes or never-before-seen strains of matter that would destroy the planet.

We'll just have to wait and cross that bridge when we come to it.

4 posted on 03/28/2008 4:52:01 AM PDT by Rudder (Klinton-Kool-Aid FReepers prefer spectacle over victory.)
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To: chessplayer

might create globe-gobbling black holes


Wow—that would really suck!


5 posted on 03/28/2008 4:56:15 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: chessplayer
Black holes, eh?


6 posted on 03/28/2008 4:58:27 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (feh)
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To: shuckmaster

No kidding. Any black hole they could create there would dissipate in a fraction of a second.


7 posted on 03/28/2008 5:00:29 AM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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To: chessplayer

I have always thought that this might happen with this machine. But then some thought the “A” Bomb would continue its energy release through out the world. So like those I am most likely wrong.


8 posted on 03/28/2008 5:01:19 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: AntiKev; All

Yup, Hawking radiation would kill any tiny blackhole we’d accidently produce. I’d love to see a new “strain” of matter, like it’d be a disease or act like Ice-9. The funniest articles are about science, when the author obviously has no clue what s/he is talking about. =)


9 posted on 03/28/2008 5:07:45 AM PDT by EarthBound (Ex Deo,gratia. Ex astris,scientia (Who the hell do I vote for now?))
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To: shuckmaster

“What didn’t happen”

“We’ve heard plenty about the test called Trinity, but few people know that what what was most important about the explosion was not what happened, but what didn’t happen.”

“The chain reaction did not get out of control. The atmosphere and oceans did not ignite. The world did not end in a planet-enveloping blaze of light. A few dozen physicists bet everything — all life on the planet! — on their ability to calculate in advance the result of an experiment that had never been tried before.”

“Even Hitler blanched at the stakes.”

“Enrico Fermi, one of the most brilliant of the atomic scientists, offered to take bets on whether or not the bomb would ignite the atmosphere, and if so, whether it would merely destroy New Mexico or the entire world. His macabre humor was not appreciated.”

“When the bomb exploded, the confidence of at least one physicist was briefly tested.”
http://www.sciencemusings.com/musingsarchive/2005_10_16_musings.html


10 posted on 03/28/2008 5:08:03 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
never-before-seen strains of matter that would destroy the planet.

If they've never been seen before, how do they know it would destroy the planet? I mean, maybe it'll instead make us all sing Kumbaya for 56782 consecutive days then step out for slurpies?

11 posted on 03/28/2008 5:09:32 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

The History Channel did a show reporting it is almost a certainty that the world will end on December 21, 2012.


12 posted on 03/28/2008 5:13:02 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: EarthBound
or act like Ice-9

Ah yes, Ice 9. That bastard Felix Hoenikker planted the seed that will eventually kill us all

13 posted on 03/28/2008 5:14:06 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Privatizing profits and socializing losses is no way to run an economy.)
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To: chessplayer

There are no pictures of the people who brought this lawsuit because they’re afraid the cameras will steal their souls.


14 posted on 03/28/2008 5:20:05 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: chessplayer

15 posted on 03/28/2008 5:25:45 AM PDT by A. Morgan (VOTE FOR A LIBERAL N' WE'LL BE UP TO OUR NECKS IN ILLEGALS and OUTA' GAS!)
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To: YOUGOTIT

My favorite quote from Jurassic Park;

Dr. Ian Malcolm: “Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.”


16 posted on 03/28/2008 5:33:29 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
The full statement in the law suit was, "The experiment might create globe-gobbling black holes or never-before-seen strains of matter that would destroy the planet, and that would be bad for the spotted owls and the children."

Just for clarification

Mark

17 posted on 03/28/2008 5:35:51 AM PDT by MarkL
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To: A. Morgan

“Artificial Life Likely in 3 to 10 Years”

“It’s going to be a big deal and everybody’s going to know about it,” said Mark Bedau, chief operating officer of ProtoLife of Venice, Italy, one of those in the race. “We’re talking about a technology that could change our world in pretty fundamental ways—in fact, in ways that are impossible to predict.”
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=d8r4h0q00&show_article=1


18 posted on 03/28/2008 5:37:28 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

According to Albert Speer, Hitler’s Minister of Armaments, in “Inside the Third Reich”, Hitler rejected out-of-hand the ideas of the top two atomic scientists whom Speer had brought in to brief Hitler — because they were Jewish. The irony is overwhelming.


19 posted on 03/28/2008 5:39:14 AM PDT by Nabber
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To: chessplayer
My favorite quote from Jurassic Park;

Dr. Ian Malcolm: “Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.”

My favorite quotes from JP (interestingly enough, all by Ian Malcom)

"I'm always on the lookout for the next former Mrs Malcom."

"Out of work, don't you mean extinct?"

"That's one big pile of s**t!"

Mark

20 posted on 03/28/2008 5:39:28 AM PDT by MarkL
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To: EarthBound

” Ice-9” has been renamed. It’s now called “Spitzerite.”


21 posted on 03/28/2008 5:49:01 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: chessplayer

Oh well, sh!t happens.


22 posted on 03/28/2008 5:52:42 AM PDT by lp boonie (Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement)
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To: YOUGOTIT
But then some thought the “A” Bomb would continue its energy release through out the world. So like those I am most likely wrong.

Enrico Fermi thought there was about a 10% chance the A bomb would ignite the nitrogen in the atmosphere....
23 posted on 03/28/2008 5:54:29 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: chessplayer

“A few dozen physicists bet everything — all life on the planet! — on their ability to calculate in advance the result of an experiment that had never been tried before.”

Thats the money quote. How many people would be willing to put all life on the planet in the hands of a few dozen scientists?


24 posted on 03/28/2008 5:58:30 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Kozak

“Enrico Fermi thought there was about a 10% chance the A bomb would ignite the nitrogen in the atmosphere....”

I believe such odds would be an unacceptable risk nowadays.


25 posted on 03/28/2008 6:00:57 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Kozak
Enrico Fermi thought there was about a 10% chance the A bomb would ignite the nitrogen in the atmosphere

And, just prior to the Trinity test, he took wagers on his hunch from his fellow scientists. I find that sense of humor appealing in a scientist. :)

26 posted on 03/28/2008 6:04:06 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (Dedicated to the preservation of American Exceptionalism.)
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To: chessplayer

If it’s in the DC area, I’m all for it.


27 posted on 03/28/2008 6:11:56 AM PDT by 12th_Monkey
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To: EarthBound

I don’t think it’s funny. I actually find it quite sad.


28 posted on 03/28/2008 6:15:57 AM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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To: AntiKev

Well that’s depressing, I like to find humor in everything.


29 posted on 03/28/2008 6:19:53 AM PDT by EarthBound (Ex Deo,gratia. Ex astris,scientia (Who the hell do I vote for now?))
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To: Maceman

Note to self: Don’t bother to do any Christmas shopping in December, 2012.


30 posted on 03/28/2008 6:31:29 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Change.....that's what we will have left in our pockets if a Democrat gets elected president!)
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To: EarthBound

I try my best, but I’m of the opinion that everyone needs some level of science education, of course, that would be far too much to ask. There are many studying the sciences and engineering that don’t even know these things.


31 posted on 03/28/2008 6:33:39 AM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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To: EarthBound
...when the author obviously has no clue what s/he is talking about. =)

Probably saw that low budget Skiffy Channel movie with Judd Nelson.

32 posted on 03/28/2008 6:47:17 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: TonyInOhio
OTOH, it was stupid of Fermi offer such a bet.

If it does ignite, everybody loses. If it doesn't, then only Fermi, assuming the other geniuses realize there's only one winning bet, loses.

33 posted on 03/28/2008 7:01:40 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: theDentist
“If they've never been seen before, how do they know it would destroy the planet? I mean, maybe it'll instead make us all sing Kumbaya for 56782 consecutive days then step out for slurpies?”

OMG!! I just choked on my coffee from laughing so hard! Thanks!

34 posted on 03/28/2008 7:12:22 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: chessplayer

Here’s a link to a short vid detailing the extraordinary security and safety precautions being taken at the super smasher!
http://tinyurl.com/2zqcqf


35 posted on 03/28/2008 8:11:57 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: chessplayer

I think I’m going to join the lawsuit since a guy down at the homeless shelter said a participle collator might increase rust on my truck.
But what does he know about rust?


36 posted on 03/28/2008 11:03:55 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Maceman

While the Bible has much to attest to it’s predictive veracity, the west promotes some obscure Mayan prediction because it makes no real moral demands upon them, whereas it intuitively knows Jesus is a threat to their lifestyle: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/RevealingStatistics.html


37 posted on 03/28/2008 11:49:32 AM PDT by daniel1212 (No fear of Joseph - false prophet)
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To: shuckmaster

I remember reading that before we had ever set of an atomic bomb, some within the program were worried that there was a theoretical possibility it could set off our atmosphere and cook the whole planet.

I think it was mainly the janitors that believed this.


38 posted on 03/28/2008 11:51:11 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: chessplayer

Oops. I see you beat me to it.

So Enrico wasn’t one of the janitors?


39 posted on 03/28/2008 11:52:34 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: chessplayer

Next they’ll sue Churches after all there is a possibility that prayer could bring on Rapture


40 posted on 03/28/2008 12:10:40 PM PDT by grjr21
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To: chessplayer

My favorite theory as to why we have not discovered interstellar alien life:

Every species of intelligent life goes thru the same basic process of scientific development (mechanical physics, sound, chemistry, electromagnetics, atomic physics, quantum physics, etc.). Eventually, they inevitably get to a point that amounts to “what happens if I try this?” and the whole planet vanishes before anyone figures out that maybe it’s not a good idea after all.

We’re next.


41 posted on 03/28/2008 12:15:19 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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