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Barbarians are within the gate
ladailynews.com ^ | 03/29/2008 10:27:21 PM PDT | Doug McIntyre

Posted on 03/30/2008 7:18:08 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Los Angeles - Deep inside the bunker. Your erstwhile war correspondent clacks out another column on life as lived in America's second-largest city. That popping sound you hear in the background isn't the Orville Redenbacher or my stiff joints snapping as I stretch for one more M&M. That's the sound of sporadic small-arms fire, incoming rounds pinging off the new armor plating I have recently installed around my writing compound. It's called "defensive architecture," but I won't object if you find it offensive.

Big Bill Bratton, the politician's favorite cop, tells us crime is down; race has nothing to do with gang murders, and we can't "arrest our way out of the problem." So L.A. keeps stacking bodies like cordwood and sullying its name internationally with horrific headlines that sound more Karbala than Compton, Fallujah than Alhambra, Baghdad than Baldwin Park.

In desperation, urban planers have begun to incorporate ammo-resistant designs into new housing and public buildings. It's both pragmatic and pathetic.

If you're around my age, you may remember aluminum siding.

Instead of painting the house, you'd just hose it off once or twice a year. It looked great until one too many tennis balls thwapped into it, or dents from the extension ladder the old man used to clean the gutters left their dimples. After a while, your house looked like it had a bad case of cellulite.

Aluminum siding is a relic of the pre-Glock,

Mac 9, AK-47 San Fernando Valley of orange groves, sock hops, slingshots and BB guns. Today's L.A. is more interactive. Your home needs something tougher, Kevlar siding, something that can stand the onslaught of an army of domestic terrorists: Crips, Bloods, Avenues 43, MS-13, Latin Kings, Vineland Boys, 18th Street, whatever. Drive-by shootings have actually spawned a new school of urban planning, "defensive architecture." So move over Post-Modern, make room for Post-Moral. L.A. went from Bauhaus to crack house. From Art Deco to Art Ducko, as in hit the deck before a stray bullet hits you.

City Councilman Ed Reyes represents one of the most densely populated districts in the city, with as many as 66,000 residents per tract. He correctly asks, "What do we have to do so every time there's a backfire from a bad muffler they don't have to hit the floor...? How do we bring the parks back for families and kids?"

Part of the solution is Reyes' "defensive" designs for housing, pubic buildings and parks.

It's hard not to see the pragmatism. It's also hard not to puke. How pathetic that we've allowed gunfire to become so commonplace, we have to make buildings drive-by proof.

The Rio de Los Angeles State Park is a 40-acre oasis surrounded by the concrete and power-line sprawl of a city that's been guided by Darwinian planning. Reyes points to a 5-foot dirt hill lined with fencing, shrubs and trees for the explicit purpose of absorbing incoming rounds from San Fernando Road. While Los Angeles talks a big game about being the 21st century city, we're essentially reverting to moats and castles with a dot-com face-lift.

How does the clich go? "If you build a better mousetrap, someone builds a smarter mouse?" We're playing a game of cat and mouse with amoral killers.

The latest atrocity was the slaughter of 17-year-old Jamiel Shaw Jr., a star footballer who caught the eye of top college recruiters. Tragically, he also caught the eye of an illegal-alien gangbanger who gunned him down while Jamiel's mother served in Iraq.

You can't make this up. The irony of fighting a war against terrorism half a world away while a generation of Angelenos is shot to pieces by local terrorists, while your own son is cut down at home.... Wow.

Smart people and good people may argue over the way out of this mess, but we'll continue to bury kids and wring our hands impotently until we agree on the basics: We have to salvage the next generation of gangbangers while crushing the current generation.

In the six months past, libraries have been shot up, Garfield High School torched, the copper wire stripped from hundreds of streetlights and a landmark Mid City statue was cut in two with a blowtorch and sold for scrap by scavengers. The barbarians are literally pillaging Los Angeles around the edges while we cheer on Eli Broad and the Grand Avenue boys. We've come so far we've circled back on ourselves. Back to the Middle Ages.

Meanwhile, child after child, young adult after young adult is quietly buried with an all-too-familiar chorus of tears.

Doug McIntyre hosts the "McIntyre in the Morning" program on Talk Radio 790 KABC, weekdays from 5 to 9 a.m.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; barbarians; ccw; gangs; illegals; immigration; losangeles; rkba; southcentral; urban
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To: Sender

But it won’t matter what we do with the barbarians inside, if we don’t plug the hole in the sinking boat.


51 posted on 03/31/2008 6:56:25 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

Agreed. First plug the hole, then start bailing.


52 posted on 03/31/2008 7:07:21 AM PDT by Sender (Stop Islamisation. Defend our freedom.)
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To: Sender

But none of the three candidates for president will do either. Instead, we’ll have open borders, amnesty, and a new flood.


53 posted on 03/31/2008 7:14:18 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee
We are living in interesting times, aren't we? I'm up for whatever they throw at us. Pass the ammo and the popcorn. 'Tis better than living in boring times.

As for the current crop of political leaders, I'll leave you with a "sea shanty" lament.

Them was the days, sonnies,
Them was the men,
Them was the leaders
as we'll never see again.

54 posted on 03/31/2008 7:33:15 AM PDT by Sender (Stop Islamisation. Defend our freedom.)
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To: brazzaville
How many gang members are there in LA?

Police have identified 720 street gangs in Los Angeles, with 39,315 members, 50% of whom are illegals according to a recent article in the LA Times. (Sorry I can't provide a link, but I archived the information)

55 posted on 03/31/2008 8:24:01 AM PDT by Gritty (In the vacuum of multiculturalism, those most defending their culture are the future-Mark Steyn)
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To: Regulator

diversity is great so say the hacks.


56 posted on 03/31/2008 8:33:48 AM PDT by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: BenLurkin

Los Angeles County routinely denies applicants for concealed carry permits. If a gang member sees you on the street, you are either one of his gang, one of somebody else’s gang, or a law-abiding person who is disarmed. There is no reason for any gang member to respect law-abiding citizens in L.A.


57 posted on 03/31/2008 8:48:17 AM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: Gritty
Good morning.
“Police have identified 720 street gangs in Los Angeles, with 39,315 members,”

Thanks. Fewer than I thought, but enough to cause worry.

Michael Frazier

58 posted on 03/31/2008 8:48:59 AM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Gritty
Police have identified 720 street gangs in Los Angeles, with 39,315 members, 50% of whom are illegals according to a recent article in the LA Times. (Sorry I can't provide a link, but I archived the information)

One charismatic leader, and in the face of strong opposition, that would become an army. Sure, there'd be infighting, bickering, slacking so former competitors got torn up, but still, they are organized (on a smaller unit basis), have a command structure, and are armed.

They already do not care about legalities (wide open ROE), and they only care about their own.

They would have to be taken down in such a way that the minor players decided it would be wiser to fade into the woodwork rather than unite in opposition, which means take out the big boys first.

59 posted on 03/31/2008 11:28:26 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: marktwain

Round em’ up and send em’ to G’itmo...permanently.


60 posted on 03/31/2008 3:19:46 PM PDT by CarryaBigStick
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To: Smokin' Joe
Good afternoon.
“...take out the big boys first.”

Considering the propensity of Mexican and Central American bangers to identify themselves with tats, and black gangs in other ways, you would think that would be easy, eh.

Hopefully it will be when the time comes.

Michael Frazier

61 posted on 03/31/2008 3:34:59 PM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: BenLurkin

I personally thought that was a good article. Shows what could very well happen if cities don’t take out the nuclear waste, meaning gangs and illegals.


62 posted on 03/31/2008 6:39:27 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: Cuchulain

Why let the Rangers and Recon have all the fun, when you could call in the citizens?


63 posted on 03/31/2008 6:42:20 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: Candor7

Why SWAT?


64 posted on 03/31/2008 6:45:14 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: semantic

Been a nice 231 years...


65 posted on 03/31/2008 6:47:36 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: junta
Did you go to Long Beach Arena in 85 for this...
66 posted on 03/31/2008 6:56:19 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: Sender

John Browning could tell you how...


67 posted on 03/31/2008 7:03:48 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Minor players might want to step into the big dogs’ shoes...


68 posted on 03/31/2008 7:06:01 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: wastedyears
There will always be those with illusions of grandeur. Sure, for a while there will be a struggle to see who will be the new top dog.

That will eliminate all but the player who will sit back, wait for them to hit each other sorting it out and step in and mop up.

There will always be room for fracturing along former national and other lines.

Aside from collateral damage, it will be doing the work that needs to be done.

Unfortunately, there will be collateral damage, but that happens every day now.

69 posted on 03/31/2008 9:55:23 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Dick Bachert
except for the 230 year-old experiment in freedom called “America,” most of the men who have walked the earth have lived as slaves to these elites whether they call themselves kings, emperors, potentates, sultans, czars – or presidents.

Excellent. I'll put a link to a modern slave society that should serve as an eye-opener to any who think it can't happen here. In fact, this ought to be available to all idiots inclined to vote for either of the dual socialists Hillary or Obama.

After watching this 15 part series I realized just how sacred our constitution is. I realized how human nature is not to be trusted and that we face numerical odds that succinctly reveal our vulnerability.

We may be a super-power but a substantial portion of the world subscribes to something else, something that'll never match our greatness but nevertheless, has wide appeal. And it sickens me to think my countrymen- in any proportion, would even consider embracing it, much less voting for it.

http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=1438428757

70 posted on 03/31/2008 10:24:19 PM PDT by budwiesest (I am, in many ways, tired of goddamnamericans.)
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To: paul51

You know “Vlad the Impaler” remains a national hero to many in his home country of Romania. His answer to the problem of “the barbarian within” was apparently quite effective.


71 posted on 04/01/2008 12:46:34 AM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: wastedyears

I was there in 86 for four months.


72 posted on 04/01/2008 12:21:38 PM PDT by junta (It's Poltical Correctness stupid! Hold liberals accountable for their actions, a new idea.)
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To: Xenalyte
“This is news? As far as I know, Compton has always been considered hellish.’

It was so hellish that my Great-Grandma moved there in the early 70’s because the rent was so much cheaper than anywhere else. Decent neighborhoods, and nice people, mostly. Of course, that was then...

73 posted on 04/01/2008 4:01:03 PM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: BenLurkin

How about instead of a war on guns, a war on gangs. Gangs are the problem. They cause problems and kill people even if they don’t have guns on them.


74 posted on 04/01/2008 6:02:10 PM PDT by looscnnn (DU is a VD for the brain.)
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