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Barbarians are within the gate
ladailynews.com ^ | 03/29/2008 10:27:21 PM PDT | Doug McIntyre

Posted on 03/30/2008 7:18:08 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: kellynla; Travis McGee

Travis - what an amazing, why-didn’t-I-think-of-that, eye-opener.

Kelly, we have miles and miles of Jersey highway lined with those walls. Noise abatement barriers. If we can build those just so people who bought into developements backing on the highway can have some decibel reduction, then h-— yes, we can afford to build them along the border.

Make them smooth instead of textured, and top them with razor wire. Invest in some ground sensors.


21 posted on 03/30/2008 9:15:47 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Travis McGee

The flexibility in noise abatement decision-making is reflected by data indicating that some States have built many noise barriers and some have built none. Through the end of 2004, forty-five State DOTs and the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico have constructed over 2,205 linear miles of barriers at a cost of over $2.7 billion ($3.4 billion in 2004 dollars).

From the USDOT
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:KdcTAI_uN7MJ:www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/probresp.htm+noise+barriers+miles+jersey&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us

We have built the border wall already - just in the wrong places.


22 posted on 03/30/2008 9:21:35 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: BenLurkin

>>So L.A. keeps stacking bodies like cordwood and sullying its name internationally with horrific headlines that sound more Karbala than Compton, Fallujah than Alhambra, Baghdad than Baldwin Park.<<

This is news? As far as I know, Compton has always been considered hellish.


23 posted on 03/30/2008 9:23:20 AM PDT by Xenalyte ("A cat can give birth to kittens in the oven. That don't make 'em biscuits." - Quanell X)
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To: paul51

You mean like a bounty (n$ for ________, Dead or Alive)?

Sounds good to me!


24 posted on 03/30/2008 9:30:09 AM PDT by sailor4321
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To: paul51

>Declare open season on any known gang member or drug dealer and put a $1,000 bounty on their heads.<

Do you have any idea the consequences of such an idea? You would bankrupt the entire state! Would you take an IOU from the Gov?


25 posted on 03/30/2008 9:30:28 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Rope, Tree & Traitor; Some Assembly Required || Gun Control Means Never Having To Say I Missed You)
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To: heartwood

“We have built the border wall already - just in the wrong places.”

There you go! Last week the LA city council decided to build walls around their parks and public places because of all the gang banger drive by shootings of innocent kids. Never occurred to them to do something about the millions of illegal aliens in their sanctuary city.


26 posted on 03/30/2008 9:32:43 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Travis McGee
You & I know what is going to happen. The abridgement of 2A rights over the last 70 years merely exacerbated the situation by presenting an illusory salve. The lack of understanding that the whole people constitute the militia has worked only as a temporary stop measure. (The nerve of GWB to call citizens, exercising their legitimate rights, "vigilantes" is beyond the pale.)

The US has never been stable or peaceful, except for a brief period after WWII. There has always been conflict and war; we're merely coming back full circle.

27 posted on 03/30/2008 9:38:37 AM PDT by semantic
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To: BenLurkin
You can't make this up. The irony of fighting a war against terrorism half a world away while a generation of Angelenos is shot to pieces by local terrorists, while your own son is cut down at home.... Wow

Perhaps our troops should train in LA and along the border.

28 posted on 03/30/2008 9:47:12 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: brazzaville

The worst gangs in L.A. today are illegals from Mexico and Central America.


29 posted on 03/30/2008 10:02:19 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
Good morning.
“The worst gangs in L.A. today are illegals from Mexico and Central America.”

Yes, and they are spreading out in all directions as fast as they can and recruiting vicious young wannabes wherever they can.

Buy ammo.

Michael Frazier

30 posted on 03/30/2008 10:14:42 AM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: BenLurkin

Another reason I’m glad I don’t live in California.

And another tick on the “sliding towards third world status” clock.


31 posted on 03/30/2008 10:22:10 AM PDT by upchuck (Who wins doesn't matter. They're all liberals. Spend your time and money to take back Congress.)
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To: BenLurkin
How do we bring the parks back for families and kids?"

Mandatory kevlar on the kiddies or face fines and jail for child endangerment ???

A new 'code enforcement' beuracracy that demands leveling your house/business and reinforcing the structure to Ft Knox standards ???

SHOOT BACK ???...

LFOD...

32 posted on 03/30/2008 10:40:43 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Choose Liberty over slavery... the gulag awaits ANY compromise with evil...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: marktwain

Declare open war on the current generation of gangbangers and the lure wont be there for the next generation...ie risk/reward...


33 posted on 03/30/2008 10:42:13 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Choose Liberty over slavery... the gulag awaits ANY compromise with evil...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: BenLurkin

I lived in N. Long Beach in 1986, and me and the roomie would sit on the balcony just to listen for the gunfire. We were fairly much broke with just enough cash for some cheap beer and watermelon to munch on while we seperated the gunfire from the backfires.


34 posted on 03/30/2008 10:44:38 AM PDT by junta (It's Poltical Correctness stupid! Hold liberals accountable for their actions, a new idea.)
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To: Travis McGee
That 'sound barrier' needs to be 'signed' a few hundred times...

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35 posted on 03/30/2008 10:46:04 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Choose Liberty over slavery... the gulag awaits ANY compromise with evil...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Travis McGee

Walls really suck if you don’t have the pair to tell the “we come in peace” types where they will end up.


36 posted on 03/30/2008 10:46:50 AM PDT by junta (It's Poltical Correctness stupid! Hold liberals accountable for their actions, a new idea.)
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To: wintertime

We’re all holding our breath waiting to hear what *you’re* doing about the situation, other than complainign on here.


37 posted on 03/30/2008 10:56:32 AM PDT by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Ace of Spades
I educated 3 homeschoolers. That was a pretty big chunk out of my life. Two of our children served full-time missions for our church.

I have spent **many** years being a youth leader, and youth Sunday school teacher for our church. Although I haven't specifically worked with youth for about 8 years, I have had other responsibilities with the adults in our congregation.

My husband and I also give 1% of our yearly income to our church scholarship fund. This is in addition to tithing.

My parents are 96, but when they pass on, our goal is to be full-time missionaries for our church.

What are you doing?

38 posted on 03/30/2008 11:29:59 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: B4Ranch

Consider the law enforcement and justice system budgets that could be slashed. We could make it 5K a head and still make out.


39 posted on 03/30/2008 2:51:09 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: heartwood

I posted the photo of the noise barrier just to make the point that we can build thousands of miles of big walls with lightning speed, anytime we want to. Including on the border.

But in reality, except for in urban border situations, a multiple fence system is better, because the enemy invaders can’t hide their movements behind a wire fence.


40 posted on 03/30/2008 3:50:31 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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